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Why are all these comments regarding Rondo's attitude being leaked to the media?

The team is desperately trying to get through to Rondo to get him to change his ways;
13 (33.3%)
The team is trying to hurt Rondo's negotiating position as they attempt to work out an extension;
5 (12.8%)
The team is trying to hurt Rondo's negotiating position next off-season, if he reaches restricted free agency;
7 (17.9%)
The team is trying to poison Rondo's reputation with the fanbase, as they don't plan to keep him;
2 (5.1%)
Other (explain below).
12 (30.8%)

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Offline HomeRunBaker

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I voted other because I think it very well could be a little of all of the above

I agree with Jeff here.  With both sides seemingly so far apart i expect Rondo's agent to secure a large deal with one of the leagues lottery (or close to lottery) teams that have cap space which is wayyyyy more than Ainge values Rondo's role on this team.......or the agent arranging a sign-n-trade to make a deal work.

If this occurs be prepared for A LOT of negative stories about Rondo "leaking" out in the immediate days and weeks following that deal. Methinks this won't be a harmonious separation.

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I voted other because I think it very well could be a little of all of the above

I agree with Jeff here.  With both sides seemingly so far apart i expect Rondo's agent to secure a large deal with one of the leagues lottery (or close to lottery) teams that have cap space which is wayyyyy more than Ainge values Rondo's role on this team.......or the agent arranging a sign-n-trade to make a deal work.

If this occurs be prepared for A LOT of negative stories about Rondo "leaking" out in the immediate days and weeks following that deal. Methinks this won't be a harmonious separation.


  Why would it have to be a lottery team? Cleveland and Miami will have cap space.

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I voted other because I think it very well could be a little of all of the above

I agree with Jeff here.  With both sides seemingly so far apart i expect Rondo's agent to secure a large deal with one of the leagues lottery (or close to lottery) teams that have cap space which is wayyyyy more than Ainge values Rondo's role on this team.......or the agent arranging a sign-n-trade to make a deal work.

If this occurs be prepared for A LOT of negative stories about Rondo "leaking" out in the immediate days and weeks following that deal. Methinks this won't be a harmonious separation.


  Why would it have to be a lottery team? Cleveland and Miami will have cap space.

I think Clev and Miami will be a little busy with thier franchise players.

I really don't expect either one to blow the celtics away on offers. I think it will take 12+/year to make the celtics not match.
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Celtics are playing with fire

Only if the player grows up. IF rondo is has as bad of an attitude problem and refuses to address certain things in his game because he "knows" they aren't problems (like his jump shot) The the celtics may be correct in not giving him a huge contract a year before they have to.

I don't think anyone knows the answer for certain.

But I suspect this one is closest to the truth: The club has had these conversations with Rondo before - several times. And they don't feel like he's addressing their concerns.

It's really no different than any employee who gets an action plan in a review: Management expects the issues to be addressed. If they're not, the employee cannot count on continued employment.

This summer, I suspect, is Celtics management's last attempt at getting Rondo to improve. If it doesn't happen, what happens next summer is anyone's guess. But my guess is it won't be a max extension. It should be pretty clear to everyone, though, that management isn't happy with Rondo's attention to detail. Clearly, trading Rondo is a last resort; you don't build value by telling the world your problems with your point guard. But equally clearly, the end of this relationship isn't off the table, either.

Wyc, Doc and Danny aren't getting paid to worship their heroes. That job falls to blogs like this one. They're earning money and rings by maximizing the talents of their players. Looks to me like they're intent on not overpaying for the Rondo package that exists right now - and sports history is replete with ugly tales of how stubborn players react to huge contracts - and they're making one last attempt to find an alternative.

Historically, when a team begins dealing with a player in public, it's because the behind-the-scenes discussions have failed. If Rondo 2009 is Rondo 2010, then I'm extremely pessimistic that he remains a Celtic. Danny will try to move him, and then if that doesn't work, he'll see how the market defines Rondo's value. If it's a big number ...
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I voted other because I think it very well could be a little of all of the above

I agree with Jeff here.  With both sides seemingly so far apart i expect Rondo's agent to secure a large deal with one of the leagues lottery (or close to lottery) teams that have cap space which is wayyyyy more than Ainge values Rondo's role on this team.......or the agent arranging a sign-n-trade to make a deal work.

If this occurs be prepared for A LOT of negative stories about Rondo "leaking" out in the immediate days and weeks following that deal. Methinks this won't be a harmonious separation.


  Why would it have to be a lottery team? Cleveland and Miami will have cap space.

I think Clev and Miami will be a little busy with thier franchise players.

I really don't expect either one to blow the celtics away on offers. I think it will take 12+/year to make the celtics not match.

  I think all the franchise players will settle relatively quickly. After that teams will build around what they have. If Cleveland doesn't get Wade or Bosh or Miami doesn't get anyone else to go with Wade what do they do then?

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The team enjoys playing with the emotions of the teams best player, rajon rondo

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The team enjoys playing with the emotions of the teams best player, rajon rondo

Rondo isn't even close to the team's best player.  Generally, the best player on any given team scores more consistently than Rondo does.

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The team enjoys playing with the emotions of the teams best player, rajon rondo

Let me guess ... you're related to Rajon, right? ;)
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IMHO certain members of the media are trying to create controversy-- and hence a story-- where none really exists. The Celtics are relevant again and it comes with the territory.

These Rondo articles are becomeing as tiresome as the ones about Garnett's knee.
I'd have to agree. Maybe it's not so much that stuff is being leaked, but rather the media is making a big deal out of nothing.

This is what Tommy had to say about some of the Rondo criticism from a few days ago:

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Heinsohn: "[The perception that Rivers has an issue with Rondo is] ridiculous. Doc’s not knocking the kid, he’s an ex-point guard trying to get the best out of him. Rondo has terrific confidence, he’s 23 years old, he has Hall of Fame potential. So what if he doesn't have a 3-point shot. He has a terrific basketball mind. He's the best athlete on the team. Making a big deal [out of Rivers’s comments] is just talk-show stuff, something to flap about. Rondo’s the closest thing the Celtics have had since [Bob] Cousy. He’s a master of the offense, he's aggressive, he controls the pace. Without him, this team goes nowhere, all right?

"You write this: ‘Tommy says leave the kid alone!' "


This was all I needed to hear. Thanks pengaloo. Tommy says this is Media hype and they need to "leave the kid alone" and thats what I believe. The haters and Lakers fans don't like that Rondo is gonna be the best PG in the league someday and they don't want it to be for the Celtics.

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I voted other because I think it very well could be a little of all of the above

I agree with Jeff here.  With both sides seemingly so far apart i expect Rondo's agent to secure a large deal with one of the leagues lottery (or close to lottery) teams that have cap space which is wayyyyy more than Ainge values Rondo's role on this team.......or the agent arranging a sign-n-trade to make a deal work.

If this occurs be prepared for A LOT of negative stories about Rondo "leaking" out in the immediate days and weeks following that deal. Methinks this won't be a harmonious separation.


  Why would it have to be a lottery team? Cleveland and Miami will have cap space.

I also said "close to lottery" which most certainly would include the Heat.  Cleveland already had a better fit to partner with LeBron in Mo Williams so that won't happen.  The teams to offer Rondo the best contracts are those who are going to rely on him increasing his scoring output and putting the ball in his hands.  It makes zero sense for a team that has LeBron or Wade to pay Rondo $10m per year to play the same role he is in for the Celtics as you can get 12/8 from 20 other PGs in the league. 

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I voted other because I think it very well could be a little of all of the above

I agree with Jeff here.  With both sides seemingly so far apart i expect Rondo's agent to secure a large deal with one of the leagues lottery (or close to lottery) teams that have cap space which is wayyyyy more than Ainge values Rondo's role on this team.......or the agent arranging a sign-n-trade to make a deal work.

If this occurs be prepared for A LOT of negative stories about Rondo "leaking" out in the immediate days and weeks following that deal. Methinks this won't be a harmonious separation.


  Why would it have to be a lottery team? Cleveland and Miami will have cap space.

I also said "close to lottery" which most certainly would include the Heat.  Cleveland already had a better fit to partner with LeBron in Mo Williams so that won't happen.  The teams to offer Rondo the best contracts are those who are going to rely on him increasing his scoring output and putting the ball in his hands.  It makes zero sense for a team that has LeBron or Wade to pay Rondo $10m per year to play the same role he is in for the Celtics as you can get 12/8 from 20 other PGs in the league. 

Considering only 6 players in the game averaged 8 assists per game I don't think there are "20" other PGs who can provide that.

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I voted other because I think it very well could be a little of all of the above

I agree with Jeff here.  With both sides seemingly so far apart i expect Rondo's agent to secure a large deal with one of the leagues lottery (or close to lottery) teams that have cap space which is wayyyyy more than Ainge values Rondo's role on this team.......or the agent arranging a sign-n-trade to make a deal work.

If this occurs be prepared for A LOT of negative stories about Rondo "leaking" out in the immediate days and weeks following that deal. Methinks this won't be a harmonious separation.


  Why would it have to be a lottery team? Cleveland and Miami will have cap space.

I also said "close to lottery" which most certainly would include the Heat.  Cleveland already had a better fit to partner with LeBron in Mo Williams so that won't happen.  The teams to offer Rondo the best contracts are those who are going to rely on him increasing his scoring output and putting the ball in his hands.  It makes zero sense for a team that has LeBron or Wade to pay Rondo $10m per year to play the same role he is in for the Celtics as you can get 12/8 from 20 other PGs in the league. 

Considering only 6 players in the game averaged 8 assists per game I don't think there are "20" other PGs who can provide that.

Right because they all had Paul Pierce and Ray Allen curling off screens.   ::)


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I voted other because I think it very well could be a little of all of the above

I agree with Jeff here.  With both sides seemingly so far apart i expect Rondo's agent to secure a large deal with one of the leagues lottery (or close to lottery) teams that have cap space which is wayyyyy more than Ainge values Rondo's role on this team.......or the agent arranging a sign-n-trade to make a deal work.

If this occurs be prepared for A LOT of negative stories about Rondo "leaking" out in the immediate days and weeks following that deal. Methinks this won't be a harmonious separation.


  Why would it have to be a lottery team? Cleveland and Miami will have cap space.

I also said "close to lottery" which most certainly would include the Heat.  Cleveland already had a better fit to partner with LeBron in Mo Williams so that won't happen.  The teams to offer Rondo the best contracts are those who are going to rely on him increasing his scoring output and putting the ball in his hands.  It makes zero sense for a team that has LeBron or Wade to pay Rondo $10m per year to play the same role he is in for the Celtics as you can get 12/8 from 20 other PGs in the league. 

Considering only 6 players in the game averaged 8 assists per game I don't think there are "20" other PGs who can provide that.

Right because they all had Paul Pierce and Ray Allen curling off screens.   ::)


How many assists have any of the other point guards who've gotten minutes in the new Big 3 era gotten?

Not nearly as many as Rondo. Also he gets a ton of other teammates open looks beyond those two.

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I voted other because I think it very well could be a little of all of the above

I agree with Jeff here.  With both sides seemingly so far apart i expect Rondo's agent to secure a large deal with one of the leagues lottery (or close to lottery) teams that have cap space which is wayyyyy more than Ainge values Rondo's role on this team.......or the agent arranging a sign-n-trade to make a deal work.

If this occurs be prepared for A LOT of negative stories about Rondo "leaking" out in the immediate days and weeks following that deal. Methinks this won't be a harmonious separation.


  Why would it have to be a lottery team? Cleveland and Miami will have cap space.

I also said "close to lottery" which most certainly would include the Heat.  Cleveland already had a better fit to partner with LeBron in Mo Williams so that won't happen.  The teams to offer Rondo the best contracts are those who are going to rely on him increasing his scoring output and putting the ball in his hands.  It makes zero sense for a team that has LeBron or Wade to pay Rondo $10m per year to play the same role he is in for the Celtics as you can get 12/8 from 20 other PGs in the league. 

Considering only 6 players in the game averaged 8 assists per game I don't think there are "20" other PGs who can provide that.

Right because they all had Paul Pierce and Ray Allen curling off screens.   ::)


How many assists have any of the other point guards who've gotten minutes in the new Big 3 era gotten?

Not nearly as many as Rondo. Also he gets a ton of other teammates open looks beyond those two.

Sure, however when guys like Chris Duhon or Raymond Felton are 1-1.5 assists per game behind Rondo while setting up the Knicks and Bobcats "scorers" i think its pretty safe to say they would make up that assist and then some had they had sets run for Pierce and Allen over guys like Boris Diaw, Raja Bell, Al Harrington, etc.

There are many other PGs who would thrive in Rondo's role if they didn't have to shoulder the burder of putting points up for their inept offenses as well or had better scorers to set up.



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Good question. Could be anything, I guess...