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We officially have a 12-man roster & 3 spots open
« on: August 08, 2009, 10:52:19 AM »

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Here is a list of players currenlty and officially under contract with the Celtics (in no particular order):

1. Rondo
2. Ray
3. PP
4. KG
5. Perk

6. Sheed
7. House
8. Scal
9. Tony
10. Landlord
11. Walker
12. Giddens

This is the official list. Assuming that BBD will sign the contract next week:

13. Big Baby

Then we will get Marquis Daniels, and let's assume we get him with the LLE (which I don't want to happen):

14. Daniels

So... that leaves one spot to go. There are three options for #15:

  • Backup PG: Marbury (highly unlikely), Lue, J-Will, Carter, etc.
  • Bruce Bowen (or another low cost wing player)
  • Lester Hudson

Now the team is obviously trying to trade for Daniels, because else it would have been done with the LLE a long time ago.

  • If it's a 1-for-1, we would have two spots open (since Daniels would take Tony's #9 spot), and I believe Hudson would get one.
  • If we get one player less than we ship out (2-for-1, 3-for-2, etc.), we can sign Hudson, Bowen and, let's just say, Lue.

Our current rotation:

C: Perk/Sheed
PF: KG/Landlord/Scal
SF: PP/Walker
SG: Ray/Tony/Giddens
PG: Rondo/House

It might happen this way:

C: Perk/Sheed/Landlord
PF: KG/Baby/Scal
SF: PP/Bowen/Walker
SG: Ray/Daniels
PG: Rondo/House/Lue/Hudson

So how do you think it will pan out?
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Re: We officially have a 12-man roster & 3 spots open
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2009, 11:41:05 AM »

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Looks like we aren't going to be able to trade for daniels, herald is reporting.
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Re: We officially have a 12-man roster & 3 spots open
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2009, 11:44:08 AM »

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Quote from: Champzilla on August 08, 2009, 11:41:05 AM
Looks like we aren't going to be able to trade for daniels, herald is reporting.

Yeah, I think this should be readily apparent to most people by now.  If we were going to do a sign and trade, we would have worked it out by now.

As for the rest, I don't think Hudson will be part of our 15 man lineup, and I'm not really sure we're going to bother getting Bowen.

We may just pick up BBD and Daniels and go into the season with a 14 man roster.
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Re: We officially have a 12-man roster & 3 spots open
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2009, 11:47:19 AM »

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Quote from: Champzilla on August 08, 2009, 11:41:05 AM
Looks like we aren't going to be able to trade for daniels, herald is reporting.

Link?
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2009, 11:48:58 AM »

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http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/celtics/index.php/2009/08/08/celts-close-in-on-deals-with-davis-daniels/

With no Baby sign and trade in the plans, with cutting Pruitt, I think it's pretty much inevitable that Daniels comes here for the LLE. We'll see.
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2009, 11:51:53 AM »

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1. rondo
2. ray
3. PP
4. KG
5. Perk
6. Sheed
7. eddie
8 baby
9 sheldon
10 walker
11 tony
12 giddens
13 scal

from there your guess is as good as mine
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2009, 12:05:03 PM »

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 1  Rondo
 2  Ray
 3  Pierce
 4  KG
 5  Perk
 6  Sheed
 7  Daniels
 8  House
 9  Davis
10  Walker
11  Scalabrine
12  JASON WILLIAMS
13  Landlord
14  Giddens
15  Hudson
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2009, 12:09:38 PM »

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I think the preference Danny Ainge has is that we go into the season with a 14 man roster at this stage. if we can shed a couple of bodies in a sign and trade, that is our first choice obviously. I dont see any way we sign Lue and likely not Bowen. I do think if we can add them, Lester Hudson and Robert Swift are on the end of the roster. Possibly with one or both on non guaranteed contracts with clauses that allow us a buyout.

The point is, I think Danny would happily stand pat with the current group, add Daniels and Davis, before finally going into the season with a plan of unloading Scal/Tony Allen as expiring at the deadline. They cant be moved any earlier because no one knows how their team is going to look in the standings come January.
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Re: We officially have a 12-man roster & 3 spots open
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2009, 12:13:18 PM »

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Quote from: BudweiserCeltic on August 08, 2009, 11:48:58 AM
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/celtics/index.php/2009/08/08/celts-close-in-on-deals-with-davis-daniels/

With no Baby sign and trade in the plans, with cutting Pruitt, I think it's pretty much inevitable that Daniels comes here for the LLE. We'll see.

You mean the biannual exception? I thought Landlord got the LLE
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2009, 12:13:38 PM »

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U need link to find bostonherald.com ?
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2009, 12:15:27 PM »

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Here is your link: http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/celtics/

PS: it took me sooooooooo long to find, you also might want to read the whole thing.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2009, 12:18:23 PM »

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The Celtics have not found a third team to help facilitate a sign-and-trade arrangement with the Pacers, meaning that Daniels will most likely sign for the $1.9 million biannual exception. He has made a verbal commitment to join the Celtics - either by a sign-and-trade deal or for the biannual exception.

I didn't make this up.
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2009, 12:27:06 PM »

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Yay, this means we sign Daniels to a one-year (or two-year with the 2nd year at his option, which he would never exercise) contract and go out next season to search again for a PP backup, and might finally settle for Walker's upside again (like in 2008).

Great plan! Not.

Do some of you understand that this is a disaster? The idea is to lock up Daniels for 3 to 4 years, that's why it is taking so long. Yes, he will settle for the LLE, but you can bet that it will only be one year after his career season where he got paid about $5.5M more.

If it's 2 guaranteed years without a player option for the LLE, it might be alright for the time being. Or if the Kings go nowhere this season and we can unload Tony and Scal for Nocioni.

Quote from: eja117 on August 08, 2009, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: BudweiserCeltic on August 08, 2009, 11:48:58 AM
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/celtics/index.php/2009/08/08/celts-close-in-on-deals-with-davis-daniels/

With no Baby sign and trade in the plans, with cutting Pruitt, I think it's pretty much inevitable that Daniels comes here for the LLE. We'll see.

You mean the biannual exception? I thought Landlord got the LLE

He got the vet minimum.
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2009, 12:40:01 PM »

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Quote from: P2 on August 08, 2009, 12:27:06 PM
Yay, this means we sign Daniels to a one-year (or two-year with the 2nd year at his option, which he would never exercise) contract and go out next season to search again for a PP backup, and might finally settle for Walker's upside again (like in 2008).

Great plan! Not.

Do some of you understand that this is a disaster? The idea is to lock up Daniels for 3 to 4 years, that's why it is taking so long. Yes, he will settle for the LLE, but you can bet that it will only be one year after his career season where he got paid about $5.5M more.

If it's 2 guaranteed years without a player option for the LLE, it might be alright for the time being. Or if the Kings go nowhere this season and we can unload Tony and Scal for Nocioni.

Quote from: eja117 on August 08, 2009, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: BudweiserCeltic on August 08, 2009, 11:48:58 AM
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/celtics/index.php/2009/08/08/celts-close-in-on-deals-with-davis-daniels/

With no Baby sign and trade in the plans, with cutting Pruitt, I think it's pretty much inevitable that Daniels comes here for the LLE. We'll see.

You mean the biannual exception? I thought Landlord got the LLE

He got the vet minimum.

Technically it wasn't disclosed, but the Boston Globe agreed with you originally.

So I guess till Daniels or BBD comes here we have the LLE and biannual.
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2009, 12:47:46 PM »

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Well, one more to go assuming they are going to fill all 15 possible roster spots at the beginning of the season.  Danny often likes to go with 14, leaving a spot available for future flexibility.  Plus, with the Luxury Tax, filling that spot now is twice as expensive. 

Since league rules dictate a team must only have 13, I see it more than likely the C's won't carry more than 14, at least at first.  Maybe it won't be these 14 if a deal gets done involving Scal, TA, Giddens or Walker, but they probably won't fill all 15 available spots before the season.
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