Michael Vick

[KungPoweChicken]

I know this isn't exactly breaking news, and I'd rather not give this lowlife any more attention than he's already getting, but I feel as though I need to say what's on my mind.



What Vick did was brutal, sadistic, and merciless. The man does not have a moral bone in his body, a noble beat in his heart, or an honest thought in his head. No amount of prison time and no amount of debt can rehabilitate a mind as sick as Vick’s. He is not, and never will be, a healthy man. Not after he shot, electrocuted, slammed, drowned, raped, fought, and tortured hundreds, if not thousands of innocent dogs. Asking Vick for genuine remorse is like asking Jeffrey Dahmer for genuine remorse, for their morbid and disgusting acts in which they took pleasure in are comparable.

No one should be comparing Vick to other criminals the NFL has embraced in the past. Vick is an entirely different case, for the amount of suffering he inflicted on the many innocent lives he tortured is unrivaled by any NFL player, past or present. If Vick plays in the NFL and he is cheered, every sadistic criminal in the world should be cheered for any good they do: The rapists, murderers, and robbers should all be applauded when they manage to contrive the word “sorry” from their lips.

Michael Vick will not get any cheers from me. In fact, I will protest wherever he plays; I will picket in whichever city he is playing in; and I will refuse to watch the NFL. Any league that promotes a man as bloodcurdling as Michael Vick is a league I want no part of.

This is not about being black, white, brown, or yellow. This is about, and only about, the ignorant monster that is Michael Vick. A life is a life. All animals feel pain comparable to what humans feel. And any man that would enjoy inflicting unfathomable amounts of pain on innocent dogs for recreation is not something I, or any other healthy man, can comprehend. I will not forgive or forget what Vick did.

Before I end this essay, I’d like to leave you with a quote from Leonardo Da Vinci, who was perhaps the smartest and most diverse man who ever lived. Da Vinci once said, “The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men.”

[Rondo2287]

Michael Vick paid his debt to society and I for one am not somebody to deny any man the right to make a living.  I have no problem with Michael Vick being reinstated and will enjoy watching him out on the field.  He is one of the greatest athletes I have every seen and sure he made a mistake, but let he who is without guilt cast the first stone

[action781]

I in no way condone Vick's actions, but he served his sentence.  Do you disagree with the idea of rehabilitation in general?  I don't see why he is unable to rehabilitate his mind and others might be.  He was a young man when he committed those terrible actions.  Hopefully he has learned from time served and will be a role model to educate America's youth on animal abuse going forward as he claims he wants to do. 

You said you cannot forgive him.  But, just like Rondo said, "let he who is without guilt cast the first stone", similarly: "forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us".  If you ever want to ask for forgiveness, you must one who can forgive.  As difficult as it may be.

[twistedrico]

Michael Vick did not pay his debt to society, his debt will never be paid. He is a horrible person and does not deserve the priviledge of a job in the NFL.  A janitorial position would suit him much better.

[wdleehi]

If someone wants to hire him now, they can hire him.


Is he just not allowed to play football in your mind, or is he not allowed to be hired to do anything? 

[twistedrico]

Oh and I agree totally with Kungpowechicke.

[Rondo2287]

By the court of the United States, Michael Vick paid his debt.  And trust me, I love dogs as much as the next guy, but you paint a picture of Vick's sentance being over, which is not the case. He will have to deal with countless protests, much of the money that he will be making will not be going to him, but to pay his debts.  And his career and life will always be tainted with the memory of his actions.  I think the fact that this thread was created is proof that some people will never forgive him, but I have certainly forgiven him.  Let not forget, before this incident he was always considered a model citizen.  And he also has a 6 game suspension added on to his prison sentence

[wdleehi]

And as for not comparing Vick to other players, how about guys that have killed others after getting into a car after drinking?   

Are they somehow better?

[BostonArizona]

Wow comparing Mike Vick to Jeffrey Dahmer...a little dramatic?

Vick did his time, and has been villified much more so than other NFL law breakers who have done much worse.

I agree with you that his actions were very discouraging and definitely regrettable, but he has done his time and acording to the government, he is a free man(on probation but a free man).

Shouldn't a free man have the right to pursue his career? Do you really think the Commissioner of the league should be able to essentially say:
"The court system wasn't hard enough on Vick, he needs to be suspended further"
In what world is the commish living in?

Goodell is killing Vick's value by putting his status in limbo. A team knowing what week they will have Vick available will take a chance on him without thinking twice. Nobody knows when he will be available for in game playing.

I think what Goodell and the higher-ups of the NFL are doing to Vick is ridiculous and wholly unfair to this man.

If you honestly want to make this about how an animal's life is that much more valuable or as valuable as  human life then that's your opinion. I would ask you if you would give your own life for a random squirrel in your backyard. How about for a panda bear? What about a whale? Your own dog? How about a fish in your expensive fishtank?

Let Vick play.

[wdleehi]

Wow comparing Mike Vick to Jeffrey Dahmer...a little dramatic?

Vick did his time, and has been villified much more so than other NFL law breakers who have done much worse.

I agree with you that his actions were very discouraging and definitely regrettable, but he has done his time and acording to the government, he is a free man(on probation but a free man).

Shouldn't a free man have the right to pursue his career? Do you really think the Commissioner of the league should be able to essentially say:
"The court system wasn't hard enough on Vick, he needs to be suspended further"
In what world is the commish living in?

Goodell is killing Vick's value by putting his status in limbo. A team knowing what week they will have Vick available will take a chance on him without thinking twice. Nobody knows when he will be available for in game playing.

I think what Goodell and the higher-ups of the NFL are doing to Vick is ridiculous and wholly unfair to this man.

If you honestly want to make this about how an animal's life is that much more valuable or as valuable as  human life then that's your opinion. I would ask you if you would your own life for a random squirrel in your backyard. How about for a panda bear? What about a whale? Your own dog? How about a fish in your expensive fishtank?

Let Vick play.

I have no issue with the suspension.  This is not Vick's league.  If they want to hire him, it's fine, he just has to live with the consequences of his actions.

[Rondo2287]

And his suspension has become official is a 6weeker i think. 

[BostonArizona]

Michael Vick did not pay his debt to society, his debt will never be paid. He is a horrible person and does not deserve the priviledge of a job in the NFL.  A janitorial position would suit him much better.

So what you are saying with this statement is that the quality of person in the NFL is that much higher than that of a janitor?

Janitor's are the scum of the earth? NFL players are all saints?

While having a job in the NFL(or having any job in general) IS  a priviledge, the system is in place to allow the VERY BEST TALENT, not necissarily the best PEOPLE are playing in the league.

Just because this man is vilified in media doesn't mean he is a terrible person. Stop letting the news headlines and juries think for you.

[Rondo2287]

Michael Vick did not pay his debt to society, his debt will never be paid. He is a horrible person and does not deserve the priviledge of a job in the NFL.  A janitorial position would suit him much better.

So what you are saying with this statement is that the quality of person in the NFL is that much higher than that of a janitor?

Janitor's are the scum of the earth? NFL players are all saints?

While having a job in the NFL(or having any job in general) IS  a priviledge, the system is in place to allow the VERY BEST TALENT, not necissarily the best PEOPLE are playing in the league.

Just because this man is vilified in media doesn't mean he is a terrible person. Stop letting the news headlines and juries think for you.

They arent letting the Jury's think for them, the courts said he has paid his debt.

[Jon]

Wow comparing Mike Vick to Jeffrey Dahmer...a little dramatic?

Vick did his time, and has been villified much more so than other NFL law breakers who have done much worse.

I agree with you that his actions were very discouraging and definitely regrettable, but he has done his time and acording to the government, he is a free man(on probation but a free man).

Shouldn't a free man have the right to pursue his career? Do you really think the Commissioner of the league should be able to essentially say:
"The court system wasn't hard enough on Vick, he needs to be suspended further"
In what world is the commish living in?

Goodell is killing Vick's value by putting his status in limbo. A team knowing what week they will have Vick available will take a chance on him without thinking twice. Nobody knows when he will be available for in game playing.

I think what Goodell and the higher-ups of the NFL are doing to Vick is ridiculous and wholly unfair to this man.

If you honestly want to make this about how an animal's life is that much more valuable or as valuable as  human life then that's your opinion. I would ask you if you would your own life for a random squirrel in your backyard. How about for a panda bear? What about a whale? Your own dog? How about a fish in your expensive fishtank?

Let Vick play.

Yeah.  I don't hunt, so I'm hardly someone for the killing of animals.  However, if you've ever seen footage of what goes on in slaughterhouses with pigs, cows, and fowl on a daily basis, you'll see that there are literally thousands of people doing things nearly as bad as Michael Vick on a daily basis.  

I think what Michael Vick did was horrible.  However, there are two things people need to realize:

1) If he wasn't famous, he wouldn't have gone to jail.  

2) There are probably professional athletes doing far more heinous things right now that we don't know about.  

[BostonArizona]

Wow comparing Mike Vick to Jeffrey Dahmer...a little dramatic?

Vick did his time, and has been villified much more so than other NFL law breakers who have done much worse.

I agree with you that his actions were very discouraging and definitely regrettable, but he has done his time and acording to the government, he is a free man(on probation but a free man).

Shouldn't a free man have the right to pursue his career? Do you really think the Commissioner of the league should be able to essentially say:
"The court system wasn't hard enough on Vick, he needs to be suspended further"
In what world is the commish living in?

Goodell is killing Vick's value by putting his status in limbo. A team knowing what week they will have Vick available will take a chance on him without thinking twice. Nobody knows when he will be available for in game playing.

I think what Goodell and the higher-ups of the NFL are doing to Vick is ridiculous and wholly unfair to this man.

If you honestly want to make this about how an animal's life is that much more valuable or as valuable as  human life then that's your opinion. I would ask you if you would your own life for a random squirrel in your backyard. How about for a panda bear? What about a whale? Your own dog? How about a fish in your expensive fishtank?

Let Vick play.

I have no issue with the suspension.  This is not Vick's league.  If they want to hire him, it's fine, he just has to live with the consequences of his actions.

The consequences of his actions were jail time and probation and public humiliation. While I do agree he deserved those consequences, his job state should not be affected in the NFL job environment.

Who is Goodell to hand down further punishment? Is he above our juries and judges?