You are all a bunch of haters! For all of you who think TA is a walking turnover, why don't you compare his turnovers per 48 min to the rest of the guards/small forwards in the NBA...ok he's not good at 4.2/48 but Rondo is right there at 3.8. And Kobe, Pierce, Lebron and a lot of other great players have more To's per 48 than Tony Allen has. He's really not that bad and he is super aggressive most of the time so naturally he is going to get more TO's than say a spot up shooter like Eddie House or someone of that nature.
TA played only 2 games last season where he logged 30 or more minutes and both games where the last 2 games of the regular season in which the team was trying to rush him back from an ankle injury so they could have more playoff depth...I take his playoff #'s and throw them out the window because he wasn't with it physically and emotionally and while I agree his off court issues are discouraging, I'm for one, am not going to make a judgement about someones personal life I know nothing about.
Games played in 08-09 with 30+ minutes:
2 games combined 70 minutes:
13-25 fg's 3-4 3pt 4-4 ft 4steal 2block 3turnover 7reb. 8assist 33pts
enough said: So really he is not worthless at all, he is rather productive haters!
I think the turnover argument is overdone. His problem isn't really that he turns the ball over that much, it is that he loses concentration and makes mental mistakes WAY too much, and at crucial times. Whether it is a dumb foul, a missed defensive assignment, running to the wrong spot on the floor on offense, or dribbling the ball off his foot, the mistakes always come. And just when he has a good stretch, and you think he is turning it around, bam, here it comes again.
He is the ultimate tease, because he looks so good when he is on...but he is so terrible when he is off (which is more than half the time).
Stats will never tell the story with him, because he does put up numbers in bunches during his upswings, and you can't really show the mental mistakes statistically. But he is simply way too erratic to be playing on a team with championship aspirations, and that is built on disciplined defense, and team offense.
Right, and it's not that he is always turning the ball over when he's on the court - just when he actually handles the ball.
From Hollinger pre-2008-09 season, after discussing TA's drop off in finishing around the basket from 62% to 48% (likely because of an inability to elevate as he did pre-surgery):
Unfortunately, Allen's game is heavily predicated on finishing his drives. He's an amazingly bad dribbler who ranked 62nd among the league's 63 shooting guards in turnover ratio, and he's a career 31.6 percent 3-point shooter.
And his turnover ratio was worse last year than it had been when he was 62nd/63 shooting guards.
Celtics' turnover ratios, 2008-09:
(Sheed 6.5)
House 7.5
Scal 7.9
KG 8.7
Ray 8.9
Baby 10.6
Pruitt 11.3
Pierce 11.7
Rondo 12.0
Powe 13.2
Moore 14.4
TA 16.2 (previous: 15.8, 16.7, 14.3, 12.9)
Marbury 16.2 (previous: 10.1, 10.5, 10.8, 9.5, 9.8, 9.9)
Walker 18.2
Perk 20.4
So, he turns it over less than our center who gets called for offensive fouls all the time. That's something.
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