Did we overpay Rasheed Wallace?

[davemonsterband]

Absolutely not, let alone the nightmare he could have caused going to another contender. Guys that hit big shots are especially worth an extra few bucks.

[bobdelt]

He was thinking of retiring anyway... I think depending on how well we do, he could very well retire. The third year is a player option so he could go chase a ring somewhere else if we're not good.

But either way, three years from now, if he's on the C's its because we're good, if we're not good, he's wont exercise his option, he'll be out.

[Greenbean]

Let's not forget that at 37 years of age, if the C's win back to back titles, with three titles under his belt and his financial security and basketball legacy set, Wallace could walk away from the option making this a very nice two year deal.

Chances of a player leaving $7 million on the table are slim, but stranger things have happened and Wallace has never been considered a predictable person.

Good point. I would also like to add that if we really wanted to move him in that third year we would be able to for a quality player because it would be an expiring. And if Rasheed is not happy with the prospect of being traded, well he could just opt out and pick his own team. Basically I do not think he will be here for the third year unless he is somehow still worth that money at 37 or 38 years old.

[GKC]

I don't think we're overpaying Rasheed, although the 3rd year player-option does bug me. However, Rasheed was almost mulling retirement, so he could get us out of that contract and if he doesn't, he would make a good expiring in the future.

You need to remember however that this is very unlike Posey. First-off, big-men who do not require tremendous athleticism age well, Rasheed included. In fact, if you look at his stats, there has been very little drop-off, to the point that it seems like it was really due to slacking off due to being on a losing team.

Posey is also the opposite. A lot of his ability on defense and offense is through his athleticism. His defense is based on lateral quickness, and his shooting form stems a lot from his legs. That was one of the biggest worries, as once his legs give, so does his entire game.

I'm liking it, and getting very excited. It also means we would have the best defensive depth at the 5 position and never have to worry about Perk in foul trouble again.

[vagrantwade]

Broken English aside, no we didn't. Considering other teams were going to offer the same thing.

[lostjumper]

No, we didn't overpay. Remember, other teams were looking at Rasheed to start for them. He'll be our 6th man, and probably play 35 minutes a game, probabaly more minutes than Perk will. For 6 million a year, I think thats actually a good deal for the C's.

[GKC]

No, we didn't overpay. Remember, other teams were looking at Rasheed to start for them. He'll be our 6th man, and probably play 35 minutes a game, probabaly more minutes than Perk will. For 6 million a year, I think thats actually a good deal for the C's.

That's a stretch. I don't look at it like a Jason Terry system. I doubt any of the starters will play more than 35mpg after what happened this year.

[the_Bird]

He's not playing 35 minutes a game, nor does he want to at this stage of his career.  Perk's our anchor down low, he's been playing more and more minutes as he's learned how to play D without fouling and his overall game has progressed.  He'll be probably 32-35 MPG next year.  KG won't get as many minutes in the regular season as he's used to, they'll try and keep him fresh as best they can, so figure 30 MPG for him.  Figure that leaves 30 - 35 frontcourt minutes to be divvied up, but those won't (and shouldn't) go entireley to 'Sheed.  Figure he plays about 25 MPG off the bench, mostly at the 5 when Perk's out of the game and in the fourth quarter.  We'll have another big man off the bench for 10-15 MPG, too, might be Scal, might be Joe Smith or Rasho or someone like that.  

[GKC]

He's not playing 35 minutes a game, nor does he want to at this stage of his career.  Perk's our anchor down low, he's been playing more and more minutes as he's learned how to play D without fouling and his overall game has progressed.  He'll be probably 32-35 MPG next year.  KG won't get as many minutes in the regular season as he's used to, they'll try and keep him fresh as best they can, so figure 30 MPG for him.  Figure that leaves 30 - 35 frontcourt minutes to be divvied up, but those won't (and shouldn't) go entireley to 'Sheed.  Figure he plays about 25 MPG off the bench, mostly at the 5 when Perk's out of the game and in the fourth quarter.  We'll have another big man off the bench for 10-15 MPG, too, might be Scal, might be Joe Smith or Rasho or someone like that.  

Agreed. It also gives us another benefit of having a offensive lineup without having to go small (whereas before any offensive lineup requires Garnett to go to the 5 spot).

[Fred Roberts]

Not at all. We now have KG and Sheed expiring in the same year ... that means two awesome (but aging) big men together for two more years after this one.

Hopefully, they are healthy and love playing with each other .. .it's a great value all around. I love it. Now we need young legs on the wing!

Maybe Rasheed even starts working out once he sees how KG does it. Imagine the possibilities .... Sheed doesn't look like he's ever seen a weight room. A little muscle might rejuvenate him.

[BudweiserCeltic]

No, we didn't overpay... and even if we did, it would be quite irrelevant considering that we won't be players in the FA market (with cap room) in the near future.

[Fafnir]

No, we didn't overpay... and even if we did, it would be quite irrelevant considering that we won't be players in the FA market (with cap room) in the near future.

It is relevant because if we overpay too often eventually ownership would stop allowing Danny to use the MLE.

But in this case we didn't overpay so I'm not worried.

[Bozo]

Had we signed Posey, I'm not sure whether we could/would have signed Sheed.  And with the Garnett injury, Posey would not have made a difference last year.   

[GKC]

Had we signed Posey, I'm not sure whether we could/would have signed Sheed.  And with the Garnett injury, Posey would not have made a difference last year.   

Also, remember that it is much harder to fill a 4-5 spot than a wing spot, which is why big men always get paid more. And since Rasheed is a better player than Posey, we made out pretty well.

[victorycigar]

Sheed was going to get the MLE from a contender so we did not overpay.  I think we need to wait on the details about the 3rd year player option.  Hopefully, it is partially guaranteed so we could use him as a trade chip in the 3rd year to get assets back from a team looking to cut salary.

Look at the valuable trade commodities this year.  All of them are players on expiring deals with partially guaranteed contracts.  Giving him the 3rd year may actually turn out to be beneficial for the organization.