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Which team has the best Starting 5 to date other than the Celtics?

Spurs
13 (48.1%)
Lakers
12 (44.4%)
Magic
1 (3.7%)
Cavs
1 (3.7%)

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Best Starting 5 in the NBA To Date
« on: July 08, 2009, 11:12:27 AM »

Offline StealthB

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Obviously I think we have the best starting 5 and I suspect all of you will say the same. However, I wanted to know how you guys would rank the other teams.

Re: Best Starting 5 in the NBA To Date
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 11:24:10 AM »

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I voted "Spurs", considering their starting five is healthy. I will take Parker/Ginobili/Jefferson/Duncan/McDyess over Fisher/Kobe/Artest/Gasol/Bynum since Fisher and Bynum are "OK players" for me. Duncan and McDyess are old but still pretty good.

The Magic has a great starting five but they lack a player at the 4 spot right now, unless they keep playing Lewis there and put Pietrus at the 3.

Cavs have by far the worst starting five of all the contending teams.

Re: Best Starting 5 in the NBA To Date
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2009, 11:26:42 AM »

Offline Rondoholic

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I voted "Spurs", considering their starting five is healthy. I will take Parker/Ginobili/Jefferson/Duncan/McDyess over Fisher/Kobe/Artest/Gasol/Bynum since Fisher and Bynum are "OK players" for me. Duncan and McDyess are old but still pretty good.

The Magic has a great starting five but they lack a player at the 4 spot right now, unless they keep playing Lewis there and put Pietrus at the 3.

Cavs have by far the worst starting five of all the contending teams.

If we're talking about actual "starting" fives, then you need to consider Roger Mason instead of Ginobili.  But I'm assuming you guys are interested in the best "crunch time" fives...

Re: Best Starting 5 in the NBA To Date
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2009, 11:40:19 AM »

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Yeah, you're right, Ginobili isn't a starter during the regular season, sorry, but I was focused on all the best players of each team. :P

Still, I would take Parker/Mason/Jefferson/Duncan/McDyess over the Lakers starting five.

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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2009, 11:42:53 AM »

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I too think it's the Spurs, even with Mason instead of Ginobili... he's a nice, consistently solid player.

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Re: Best Starting 5 in the NBA To Date
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2009, 11:55:10 AM »

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I think it's really tight between the Lakers, Spurs and Magic. Now that I'm writing, I'd actually change my vote to Lakers even though I voted for the Magic. My ultimate rank, using a 1-10 scale for each position, is

1. Lakers (Fisher 4.5-Kobe 10-Artest 7.5-Gasol 8-Bynum 6) 36
2. Magic (Nelson 7-Carter 7-Pietrus 5-Lewis 7-Howard 10) 36
3. Spurs (Parker 9-Mason 4-Jefferson 6-Duncan 9-McDyess 7) 35
4. Cavs (Mo 5.5-West 5-Lebron 10-Varejao(?) 6-Shaq 7) 33.5

(FYI: Celtics - Rondo 7-Allen 8-Pierce 9-Garnett 9-Perkins 7) 40

Note, that I ranked these guys in large part on how they perform in the most important situations - that's why Mo's ranking is relatively low and Fisher's relatively high. I also have to factor in age and injuries, which is why Duncan and Garnett only get 9s right now, and Nelson is at a 7 while I'd be more inclined to push him to 7.5 or 8 if I was sure about how he'd return. Mo's ranking also is a little low because I'm valuing that player at that position relative to the league. So Gasol would be a 9 as a center, in my opinion, but only an 8 at the stronger power forward position.

The Lakers have a very good starting unit with a weak but experienced and smart point, the best 2 guard in the NBA, one of the 5 best small forwards, one of the 5 best power forwards, and at the very least a legit center, top 12 in the NBA. With the potential of Bynum to step up this year and maybe Farmar to bounce back and take the starting role from an aging Fisher, I think they also have the best potential to be better than expected.

While I like Orlando's starting 5, I think the Magic have by far the weakest bench of any of the top 5 teams, which is why I'd ultimately put them at the bottom of the pack. I think the Spurs have the best bench of all 5 teams.

I think this is premature though because I have a feeling the Cavs will add at least one more starter, probably at the 2, pushing Delonte to his best role as a backup combo guard.

What's more, I think it should really be about the best 5, not the starting 5. For example, if you replace Mason with Ginobli in San Antonio's starting 5, they vault above the Magic and Lakers. Then again, if you replace Bynum with Odom (if LA keeps him), their potential goes down but their actual overall quality goes up because Odom and Gasol play so well together.

Overall, I'd rank those teams 1. LA, 2. SA, 3. Orlando, 4. Cleveland. But I think Cleveland will add a piece to move above the Magic, while the Magic will somewhat foolishly stand pat, relying on Redick, Anderson and Johnson for all their bench play. I think if San Antonio stays healthy this year (a bigger if than it is for Boston, given the major problems Ginobli and Duncan have had the past couple years and McDyess in much of his career), they'll be the best team of the remaining 4 and maybe better than Boston because of their great depth (Ginobli, Bonner, Finley, Blair, Hill, Udoka, probably one more big man) off the bench. If we add more bench pieces though, I think we retain the edge.
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 12:46:33 PM »

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I think it's really tight between the Lakers, Spurs and Magic. Now that I'm writing, I'd actually change my vote to Lakers even though I voted for the Magic. My ultimate rank, using a 1-10 scale for each position, is

1. Lakers (Fisher 4.5-Kobe 10-Artest 7.5-Gasol 8-Bynum 6) 36
2. Magic (Nelson 7-Carter 7-Pietrus 5-Lewis 7-Howard 10) 36
3. Spurs (Parker 9-Mason 4-Jefferson 6-Duncan 9-McDyess 7) 35
4. Cavs (Mo 5.5-West 5-Lebron 10-Varejao(?) 6-Shaq 7) 33.5

You have Delonte far overrated.  He is on the level of Mason.  He might be the biggest weak spot in any of these teams starting units...  He should be a 7th man ideally.

Re: Best Starting 5 in the NBA To Date
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 01:25:34 PM »

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Yeah, you may be right, it's my lingering love for Delonte in part, but I also think he's a far superior defender to Mason, so I think he's better. Maybe both should be lower though since the difference between Kobe and Carter isn't bigger than the difference between Carter and West.  So West at 4 and Mason at 3.

Unfortunately for Cleveland, while SA has Ginobli to come off the bench for Mason, the Cavs only have Boobie Gibson.
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Re: Best Starting 5 in the NBA To Date
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2009, 02:13:44 PM »

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I think the 6th man should be included in the ratings even though it only says starting five.