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Re: Spurs fans not impressed/interested in BBD
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2009, 01:49:38 PM »

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what about the birdman, I bet we could pick him up very cheap. third in blocked shots last year, coming off the bench. Or I,ve heard rumors that kendrick perkins may be gone as he has had a falling out with doc that may be why they pushed so hard for sheed
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Re: Spurs fans not impressed/interested in BBD
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2009, 01:50:47 PM »

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July 6th, 2009 at 11:33 am

what about the birdman, I bet we could pick him up very cheap. third in blocked shots last year, coming off the bench. Or I,ve heard rumors that kendrick perkins may be gone as he has had a falling out with doc that may be why they pushed so hard for sheed
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Re: Spurs fans not impressed/interested in BBD
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2009, 01:51:30 PM »

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You called Powe over BBD as well and they dropped him like a bad habit. If they really valued him like some C's fans they would have gave him minimum.  He's done like dinner. And that sadly is what spurs these 'posts'.

Admit to being wrong about BBD/Powe and you'll be happier.
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Re: Spurs fans not impressed/interested in BBD
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2009, 01:55:31 PM »

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You called Powe over BBD as well and they dropped him like a bad habit. If they really valued him like some C's fans they would have gave him minimum.  He's done like dinner. And that sadly is what spurs these 'posts'.

Admit to being wrong about BBD/Powe and you'll be happier.

They didn't drop Powe.  They just aren't going to give a contract to a player who can't play basketball.  It's common sense.  If he's still a free agent when his rehab is finished, he can come back and play off the bench with Rasheed Wallace and Mike Sweetney.

Re: Spurs fans not impressed/interested in BBD
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2009, 01:55:55 PM »

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He is below average on defense.  He is a below average rebounder.  His offensive game is severely limited.  He has a mediocre jump shot if he's left wide open.   He doesn't really bring much as far as "intangibles".  Not that savvy of a player. 

He can bang with the big boys, as opposed to KG and Sheed. He is a far better offensive rebounder than Wallace. His offensive game is excellent for a second year bench big. He is [dang] clutch. He hustles for loose balls and brings high energy. He showed fantastic improvement...
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Re: Spurs fans not impressed/interested in BBD
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2009, 02:01:09 PM »

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You called Powe over BBD as well and they dropped him like a bad habit. If they really valued him like some C's fans they would have gave him minimum.  He's done like dinner. And that sadly is what spurs these 'posts'.

Admit to being wrong about BBD/Powe and you'll be happier.

They didn't drop Powe.  They just aren't going to give a contract to a player who can't play basketball.  It's common sense.  If he's still a free agent when his rehab is finished, he can come back and play off the bench with Rasheed Wallace and Mike Sweetney.

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Re: Spurs fans not impressed/interested in BBD
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2009, 02:05:07 PM »

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He is below average on defense.  He is a below average rebounder.  His offensive game is severely limited.  He has a mediocre jump shot if he's left wide open.   He doesn't really bring much as far as "intangibles".  Not that savvy of a player. 

He can bang with the big boys, as opposed to KG and Sheed. He is a far better offensive rebounder than Wallace. His offensive game is excellent for a second year bench big. He is [dang] clutch. He hustles for loose balls and brings high energy. He showed fantastic improvement.

I mean... sure... it's nice having a wide butt down low.  He and Perk did a good job boxing out and there were some rebounds to be had.    Glen averaged 36 minutes per game in the playoffs, though... and only averaged 5.6 rebounds himself.  That's kinda low.

His offensive game consists of waiting for wide open passes down low for a layup (or blown layup) and waiting for wide open mid-range jump shots in which nobody would bother stepping out to defend him.   Not sure what other offense y ou are referring to.  Maybe his crazy out of control spins in the lane where he jacks up some ridiculous shot ala Antoine Walker at his worst?

Give him 2 mil a year or replace him with another wide-butt like Mike Sweetney.

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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2009, 02:07:09 PM »

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We should spread rumors about BBD having a bad work ethic and being injury prone, or having a bad locker room attitude. I really wanna keep him.  ::)

Re: Spurs fans not impressed/interested in BBD
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2009, 02:07:40 PM »

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He is below average on defense.  He is a below average rebounder.  His offensive game is severely limited.  He has a mediocre jump shot if he's left wide open.   He doesn't really bring much as far as "intangibles".  Not that savvy of a player. 

He can bang with the big boys, as opposed to KG and Sheed. He is a far better offensive rebounder than Wallace. His offensive game is excellent for a second year bench big. He is [dang] clutch. He hustles for loose balls and brings high energy. He showed fantastic improvement.


He can't bang with the big boys as well as Sheed. For all we talked about Perk holding Howard in check, Sheed has been doing that consistently for Howard's entire career. Plus, Wallace has the height and wingspan to bother the taller 4s like Gasol and Lewis that have caused Davis so much trouble. Davis is also not a better rebounder than Sheed on either end (Powe is the best rebounder of the 3). However, I agree his offensive game is above average for a second year bench big, he did show improvement and he brings energy and enthusiasm and effort. Now that it's apparent the money isn't there, he's actually looking like a good 4th big option. I think I've been holding out hope that we'd bring in a 3/4 Posey/Nocioni type who would take some minutes at the 4 in small lineups, which would obviate the need for Davis (since Scal could play the 5th big role). But since that option doesn't seem to be out there, Scalabrine isn't an ideal 4th big, and Davis isn't looking at a fat contract offer, I'm becoming more convinced we keep Davis relatively cheap, at least for another year at the qualifying offer.

By the way, how much is the QO for Davis?
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Re: Spurs fans not impressed/interested in BBD
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2009, 02:19:02 PM »

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We should spread rumors about BBD having a bad work ethic and being injury prone, or having a bad locker room attitude. I really wanna keep him.  ::)

He somehow was able to join the Boston Celtics, play with Kevin Garnett... and managed to gain weight.  Have you seen video of him during his pre-draft workouts?

I don't know what that says about his work ethic, but it's certainly interesting.

Re: Spurs fans not impressed/interested in BBD
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2009, 02:23:32 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2009, 03:03:53 PM »

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He is below average on defense.  He is a below average rebounder.  His offensive game is severely limited.  He has a mediocre jump shot if he's left wide open.   He doesn't really bring much as far as "intangibles".  Not that savvy of a player. 

He can bang with the big boys, as opposed to KG and Sheed. He is a far better offensive rebounder than Wallace. His offensive game is excellent for a second year bench big. He is [dang] clutch. He hustles for loose balls and brings high energy. He showed fantastic improvement.


He can't bang with the big boys as well as Sheed. For all we talked about Perk holding Howard in check, Sheed has been doing that consistently for Howard's entire career. Plus, Wallace has the height and wingspan to bother the taller 4s like Gasol and Lewis that have caused Davis so much trouble. Davis is also not a better rebounder than Sheed on either end (Powe is the best rebounder of the 3). However, I agree his offensive game is above average for a second year bench big, he did show improvement and he brings energy and enthusiasm and effort. Now that it's apparent the money isn't there, he's actually looking like a good 4th big option. I think I've been holding out hope that we'd bring in a 3/4 Posey/Nocioni type who would take some minutes at the 4 in small lineups, which would obviate the need for Davis (since Scal could play the 5th big role). But since that option doesn't seem to be out there, Scalabrine isn't an ideal 4th big, and Davis isn't looking at a fat contract offer, I'm becoming more convinced we keep Davis relatively cheap, at least for another year at the qualifying offer.

By the way, how much is the QO for Davis?

QO's a little more than 1 mil according to Shamsports.

Agreed on most points.  In Davis' defense he is a better offensive rebounder than Sheed.  In Davis' opposition his offensive game is more versatile than good.  He has quite a few tools: good hands, good at presenting himself as a target, strong, smart, nimble, capable of posting up, shooting the J, dribbling off a pump fake, passing when necessary.  He's just not that effective despite his versatility.  He shoots low percentages and makes inconsistent contributions.
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