Rondo is definitly not a top 3 PG

I would trade Rondo/Scal/Pruitt for Gay/Conley/#2.

That would be absurdly lopsided in our favor.  Maybe we could swing Rondo+Ray+Pruitt+Scal for Gay/Conley/#2 but I doubt it.

In any case I wouldn't want to give up 2 starters or even 1 starter for the #2 and a couple prospects

i can see rondo being a top 5 point guard skill wise, that doesn't include the whole mental side.  if he could get his head on straight, he would be a guy you would like to keep, but hen there is the whole money situation.  do you gamble that he will grow up, or get what you can now

if the #2 is thrown into a gay/conley deal, then we would have to do that in a heartbeat i think.  a young, servicable pg, a pretty good swingman who can start, or come off the bench, and i would prefer the 2nd coming of paul pierce to be drafted at 2, james harden....

Quote from: Jellyman15 on June 24, 2009, 12:06:37 PM

I keep hearing that Rondo/Scal/Giddens are being traded for Conely and Rudy Gay. I like Rudy Gay but i just cant stand how we would lose Rondo. He is definitely one of the top 3 PG in the NBA and he will only get better. He provided a strong future once the big three retire.

Please someone tell me this is gonna happen! Say it aint so!

D-Will, CP3, Tony Parker, Calderon.

Calderon? Seriously? Do you actually watch him play or just look at his numebrs? He was a huge reason the Raptors failed to make the playoffs this past season. He just stands at the top of the key and dribbles for 18-21 seconds. Then when he realizes something has got to happen in the next 3 seconds, he usually fires off an ill-advised jumper, or passes it to Bosh at the top of the key for a jumper - where he cashes in on the assist. His defense is not only terrible it's EMBARRASSING! Please make no mistake about it...the best thing about Jose Calderon is his reliability at the FT line. End of rant.

Quote from: vagrantwade on June 24, 2009, 02:16:51 PM

Quote from: Jellyman15 on June 24, 2009, 12:06:37 PM

I keep hearing that Rondo/Scal/Giddens are being traded for Conely and Rudy Gay. I like Rudy Gay but i just cant stand how we would lose Rondo. He is definitely one of the top 3 PG in the NBA and he will only get better. He provided a strong future once the big three retire.

Please someone tell me this is gonna happen! Say it aint so!

D-Will, CP3, Tony Parker, Calderon.

Calderon? Seriously? Do you actually watch him play or just look at his numebrs? He was a huge reason the Raptors failed to make the playoffs this past season. He just stands at the top of the key and dribbles for 18-21 seconds. Then when he realizes something has got to happen in the next 3 seconds, he usually fires off an ill-advised jumper, or passes it to Bosh at the top of the key for a jumper - where he cashes in on the assist. His defense is not only terrible it's EMBARRASSING! Please make no mistake about it...the best thing about Jose Calderon is his reliability at the FT line. End of rant.

Do you actually watch Rondo play? Or do you just look at his numbers?

Dude decides to play defense whenever he gets bored. If it wasn't for his risky steals he would never have been considered for any all-defensive team.

Quote from: vagrantwade on June 24, 2009, 03:35:49 PM

Quote from: youcanthandlethetruth113 on June 24, 2009, 03:27:45 PM

Quote from: vagrantwade on June 24, 2009, 02:16:51 PM

Quote from: Jellyman15 on June 24, 2009, 12:06:37 PM

I keep hearing that Rondo/Scal/Giddens are being traded for Conely and Rudy Gay. I like Rudy Gay but i just cant stand how we would lose Rondo. He is definitely one of the top 3 PG in the NBA and he will only get better. He provided a strong future once the big three retire.

Please someone tell me this is gonna happen! Say it aint so!

D-Will, CP3, Tony Parker, Calderon.

Calderon? Seriously? Do you actually watch him play or just look at his numebrs? He was a huge reason the Raptors failed to make the playoffs this past season. He just stands at the top of the key and dribbles for 18-21 seconds. Then when he realizes something has got to happen in the next 3 seconds, he usually fires off an ill-advised jumper, or passes it to Bosh at the top of the key for a jumper - where he cashes in on the assist. His defense is not only terrible it's EMBARRASSING! Please make no mistake about it...the best thing about Jose Calderon is his reliability at the FT line. End of rant.

Do you actually watch Rondo play? Or do you just look at his numbers?

Dude decides to play defense whenever he gets bored. If it wasn't for his risky steals he would never have been considered for any all-defensive team.

You are wrong, Rondo has an enormous defensive impact for the Celtics. Coaches, ccouts, and several defensive ratings systems all agree on this.

Fafnir - thanks for beating me to the reply.