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Re: headsup on weei ..DA
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2009, 05:21:21 PM »

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DA says no structural damage. Up to KG. Would still be giving him time off if playoffs were sooner rather than later. Up to KG how much pain he can take.
 
Strong possibility of surgery down the road. Window of time he can help them (this yr)

Worried about Ray's and Pierce's minutes right now. Been better (not playing them that much) lately. Tony Allen is healthy, not in bb condition. Cleared to play tonite.

Impressed with BBD. Plays better with starters than bench players. Confidence is up. BBD has benefitted from KG being out. Not just a little bit better, but really improved . MUCH BETTER THAN ANYONE ON LAST YR'S CELTIC'S BENCH was DA's quote that stood out. Posey what? lol


what exactly would the surgery be attempting to do if there is no structural damage?

did they ask Danny that....that seems like the most important question.

That one line was from Ordway. Everything else was from Danny. Danny said no ligament problems, but there is more to the knee than ligaments. I'm not a doctor, but aren't there things like bone spurs or liquid to drain or other more minor surgeries? At one pt it sounded like Danny was going to say there was no "tear," but he didn't. That had my hopes up. I do think the injury is very serious, but Danny doesn't want to say the sky is falling. There's a window where there's a chance KG can help. They're going to use that. He did say doctors could better answer whether playing would worsen the injury. But ainge seemed to think it wouldn't.

Re: headsup on weei ..DA
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2009, 05:25:56 PM »

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DA says no structural damage. Up to KG. Would still be giving him time off if playoffs were sooner rather than later. Up to KG how much pain he can take.
 
Strong possibility of surgery down the road. Window of time he can help them (this yr)

Worried about Ray's and Pierce's minutes right now. Been better (not playing them that much) lately. Tony Allen is healthy, not in bb condition. Cleared to play tonite.

Impressed with BBD. Plays better with starters than bench players. Confidence is up. BBD has benefitted from KG being out. Not just a little bit better, but really improved . MUCH BETTER THAN ANYONE ON LAST YR'S CELTIC'S BENCH was DA's quote that stood out. Posey what? lol


what exactly would the surgery be attempting to do if there is no structural damage?

did they ask Danny that....that seems like the most important question.

That one line was from Ordway. Everything else was from Danny. Danny said no ligament problems, but there is more to the knee than ligaments. I'm not a doctor, but aren't there things like bone spurs or liquid to drain or other more minor surgeries? At one pt it sounded like Danny was going to say there was no "tear," but he didn't. That had my hopes up. I do think the injury is very serious, but Danny doesn't want to say the sky is falling. There's a window where there's a chance KG can help. They're going to use that. He did say doctors could better answer whether playing would worsen the injury. But ainge seemed to think it wouldn't.

jr, thanks for filling us in....sorry for all the questions.

but did they ask Danny about surgery down the road? and did they ask him about the possibility of loose cartilage and/or a cartilage tear?

Re: headsup on weei ..DA
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2009, 05:34:20 PM »

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Winsomme, I don't think they did. Like I said, it seemed like Danny stopped himself short from saying that there was no tear. Just nothing wrong with the ligaments.

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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2009, 05:36:23 PM »

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Winsomme, I don't think they did. Like I said, it seemed like Danny stopped himself short from saying that there was no tear. Just nothing wrong with the ligaments.

TP for the report johnnyrondo, it's much appreciated!

If KG can play for the playoffs and not injure his knee too badly, allowing him to heal it this summer (surgery or wathever) I'll be fine with it.

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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2009, 05:40:37 PM »

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Winsomme, I don't think they did. Like I said, it seemed like Danny stopped himself short from saying that there was no tear. Just nothing wrong with the ligaments.

TP for the report johnnyrondo, it's much appreciated!

If KG can play for the playoffs and not injure his knee too badly, allowing him to heal it this summer (surgery or wathever) I'll be fine with it.
  Agreed. i'd even be fine if he didn't come back at the start of next season. it's really all about the playoffs at stis stage for KG/Paul/Ray. Thanks for the TP. I know I'd be dying to hear what Ainge said if I wasn't in town or able to listen. Celticsbloggers have helped me before

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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2009, 05:45:11 PM »

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i just think there is some hope he will comeback this season....but it wouldn't surprise me if he didnt

Re: headsup on weei ..DA
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2009, 05:47:38 PM »

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Wish there was more word on Powe.

Re: headsup on weei ..DA
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2009, 05:48:58 PM »

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the powe injury to me is a big deal...they are real quiet about that one....just a tough spot to have a knee injury let alone 2 key frontline guys hurt before the playoffs...

Re: headsup on weei ..DA
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2009, 05:49:19 PM »

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Winsomme, I don't think they did. Like I said, it seemed like Danny stopped himself short from saying that there was no tear. Just nothing wrong with the ligaments.

TP for the report johnnyrondo, it's much appreciated!

If KG can play for the playoffs and not injure his knee too badly, allowing him to heal it this summer (surgery or wathever) I'll be fine with it.
  Agreed. i'd even be fine if he didn't come back at the start of next season. it's really all about the playoffs at stis stage for KG/Paul/Ray. Thanks for the TP. I know I'd be dying to hear what Ainge said if I wasn't in town or able to listen. Celticsbloggers have helped me before

Considering that I live in France it's really hard for me to listen to the town's radio, yeah, that's why your efforts are much appreciated. :P

As for KG, I don't know much about knee injuries (or injuries in general) but I'm wondering why, if his knee needs minor surgery, they hadn't done it just after he got hurt in Utah? Wouldn't KG be back now or before the playoffs if he endured surgery at this time? Maybe the recovery time would be too long tough, or they didn't know how bad the injury was at the time. I'm tired of speculating, so I hope Danny is speaking the truth here.

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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2009, 05:51:32 PM »

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Winsomme, I don't think they did. Like I said, it seemed like Danny stopped himself short from saying that there was no tear. Just nothing wrong with the ligaments.

A scope is no big deal, so long as no microfracture surgery is involved.

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« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2009, 05:52:40 PM »

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because i think all parties felt that time would heal whatever was wrong....i think KG is prepared to play with pain and prolly was afraid surgery would keep him out of the playoffs.....well now they are seeing that time is not healing the injury and they are hoping he can play with managed pain. i honestly don't expect KG in the playoffs. not being negative just think there is more to this

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« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2009, 06:02:23 PM »

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DA says no structural damage. Up to KG. Would still be giving him time off if playoffs were sooner rather than later. Up to KG how much pain he can take.
 
Strong possibility of surgery down the road. Window of time he can help them (this yr)

Worried about Ray's and Pierce's minutes right now. Been better (not playing them that much) lately. Tony Allen is healthy, not in bb condition. Cleared to play tonite.

Impressed with BBD. Plays better with starters than bench players. Confidence is up. BBD has benefitted from KG being out. Not just a little bit better, but really improved . MUCH BETTER THAN ANYONE ON LAST YR'S CELTIC'S BENCH was DA's quote that stood out. Posey what? lol


what exactly would the surgery be attempting to do if there is no structural damage?

did they ask Danny that....that seems like the most important question.

Cleaning out the junk that they have already stated is floating around his knee area?

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« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2009, 06:05:11 PM »

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Winsomme, I don't think they did. Like I said, it seemed like Danny stopped himself short from saying that there was no tear. Just nothing wrong with the ligaments.

A scope is no big deal, so long as no microfracture surgery is involved.
I recently read a paper about scopes being essentially a placebo. I need to read some studies on that.

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« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2009, 06:09:05 PM »

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So he'll play. Works for me.

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« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2009, 06:15:31 PM »

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Danny outright denied that surgery was ever discussed as a possibility now.  He did allow that KG has met with the medical staff for many hours, and that DA was not present for every discussion, but that it was his understanding that surgery down the road was one possibility.  Something to do with a bony growth that was irritating the muscle.  But in no way was that ever discussed as something to pursue at this point.  When a patient is dealing with something like this, it is typical for a Dr. to go over all the possible outcomes, and with this injury, that is one possible solution down the road, but was NEVER on the table for the present.  Just as viable, is that with rest and therapy the situation could resolve itself.

DA also said that in terms of playing making it worse, that was a better question for a Doctor, but his understanding was it would not.  I realize DA can be less than truthful when discussing the draft, possible trades, etc. but in this case, speaking less than candidly about this topic would not make much sense.  He did not evade the question, just qualified that he is in fact not a Dr., but he thought the issue was what KG could ultimately tolerate.