Paul Pierce & the kid in a Lebron jersey

[Hoyo de Monterrey]

Wow we got five pages out of this and some legitimate arguing hahaha... Outstanding work all the way around.

[Roy Hobbs]

i'm beginning to think my days of posting here are just about over...some of you guys are just too serious here and singling me out for my comments is just ridiculous.  i realize Roy Hobbs is the new chuck norris, but i didn't realize we weren't allow to express a dissenting view.

With all due respect, don't let the door hit you on the way out, Andy.  You write "Roy, your political correctness is the mentality that's killing america as we knew it...", and then threaten to quit in a huff because somebody "singled you out"?  Isn't that a tad bit hypocritical, after you called me out by name and suggested that it's my attitude that is "killing America"?  You think it's overly P.C. to be concerned about hurting a child's feelings, but your own ego is bruised to the point of taking your ball and going home because somebody disagreed with you?

If you're a poster that can disagree with others, but doesn't expect anybody to disagree with them, I'd suggest that maybe an interactive message board isn't the place for you.  I'd suggest you take a step back from the situation, re-read what you wrote, and have a good laugh at how silly the whole thing is.

[Neurotic Guy]

Those who think a big lesson was learned here are probably overstating the 'tough love' angle.  The 'snub' may not mean all that much to this child (maybe a little disappointment). A high-five may have just added to the thrill of sitting behind the bench.

Ridiculing Roy for political correctness is a joke.  Roy expressed some respect for a kid's feelings -- is that sentiment evidence of political correctness gone awry? Wow.   I practice respect for kids' feelings every day with my children (13 and 18) and it seems to work quite well.  

Frankly, if a 10-year old kid wearing a Laker jersey offered me a high-five after the C's won the championship last year, I can't imagine that I would have said, "nuh-uh, you're not wearing the right jersey".  Seems rather silly doesn't it?

well, since you're call ME out for my comments, allow me to explain.

i feel pierce did nothing wrong...he saw the kid had a lebron jersey on and left the kid hanging.  i know we live in a world where we're not allowed to disappoint anyone any longer (ie. the coach who was fired for running up the score), but i don't see anything wrong here.

the kid didn't get a high five...so what?  my goodness, you'd swear the kid had cancer and pierce stole his chemotherapy. 

this is much ado about nothing...i was making a joke.  but i'm serious about the fact that pierce did nothing wrong.  the kid may have had his feelings hurt...big deal.  he'll get over it.

i'm a father of 4 children...my oldest is 9.  if it would have been him i (as a parent) would have laughed it off, understanding that he's wearing the jersey of the opposing team and shouldn't expect an emotional (at the moment) player to give him a high five.  he's smart enough to understand this (i'd like to think your (neurotic guy) teenagers are mature enough to do the same).

but pierce did nothing wrong and i'm sure the kid will be just fine...(lawsuit being filed as i type, no doubt)...

i'm beginning to think my days of posting here are just about over...some of you guys are just too serious here and singling me out for my comments is just ridiculous.  i realize Roy Hobbs is the new chuck norris, but i didn't realize we weren't allow to express a dissenting view.

You know you are allowed to say what you want. That is the beauty of this forum.

Those who think a big lesson was learned here are probably overstating the 'tough love' angle.  The 'snub' may not mean all that much to this child (maybe a little disappointment). A high-five may have just added to the thrill of sitting behind the bench.

Ridiculing Roy for political correctness is a joke.  Roy expressed some respect for a kid's feelings -- is that sentiment evidence of political correctness gone awry? Wow.   I practice respect for kids' feelings every day with my children (13 and 18) and it seems to work quite well.  

Frankly, if a 10-year old kid wearing a Laker jersey offered me a high-five after the C's won the championship last year, I can't imagine that I would have said, "nuh-uh, you're not wearing the right jersey".  Seems rather silly doesn't it?

well, since you're call ME out for my comments, allow me to explain.

i feel pierce did nothing wrong...he saw the kid had a lebron jersey on and left the kid hanging.  i know we live in a world where we're not allowed to disappoint anyone any longer (ie. the coach who was fired for running up the score), but i don't see anything wrong here.

the kid didn't get a high five...so what?  my goodness, you'd swear the kid had cancer and pierce stole his chemotherapy. 

this is much ado about nothing...i was making a joke.  but i'm serious about the fact that pierce did nothing wrong.  the kid may have had his feelings hurt...big deal.  he'll get over it.

i'm a father of 4 children...my oldest is 9.  if it would have been him i (as a parent) would have laughed it off, understanding that he's wearing the jersey of the opposing team and shouldn't expect an emotional (at the moment) player to give him a high five.  he's smart enough to understand this (i'd like to think your (neurotic guy) teenagers are mature enough to do the same).

but pierce did nothing wrong and i'm sure the kid will be just fine...(lawsuit being filed as i type, no doubt)...

i'm beginning to think my days of posting here are just about over...some of you guys are just too serious here and singling me out for my comments is just ridiculous.  i realize Roy Hobbs is the new chuck norris, but i didn't realize we weren't allow to express a dissenting view.

TP4U andy, there's nothing wrong with everything not being the end of a hallmark movie.

For one, im not even sure paul saw him at the time, and even if he did, who cares?

I'm sorry, but im sick and tired of the "everyones a winner!! and entitled to super happy time!!" stuff thats going on in the world.

I hate that my little brothers basketball league, for instance (he's 11) doesn't "keep score to protect the kids self esteem"

Guess what PC world, the kids are well aware what the score is, you're lying to them when you say the point is just to have fun.

The point is to have fun, but also to beat the other team. When i was 11, we already were on teams where score was kept and playoffs were held. Now they coddle kids until there 12.

It's embarrassing, and telling kids the world is fair and everyone wins doesn't help them prepare for a world where the person who's the best still gets ahead.

/rant about PC off

Oh my. I'd suggest you re-read my post and perhaps you'll conclude that you wanted a reason to rant about the 'everyone wins' mentality and used my comments -- which suggested nothing even close to that -- to rant about (how'd you make the leap?).  My sole staement was that to suggest that respect for a child's feelings is 'politically correct' is silly.  Sensible people know that children live in an unfair world and that they need to understand and experience that, just as the same sensible people know that it's OK to have regard for children's feelings.  Neither view should be ridiculed, and it is actually a combination of BOTH views that lead to optimal parenting -- in my opinion.

As for Andy -- you and I are much more in agreement than you think.  I too think that High-Five-Gate is a non-issue.  That's why I began my post with statements indicating that too much is being made of the impact of the incident.  The incident not a big deal.

[Rondo_is_better]

If the kid is old enough to gel his hair he's old enough to deal with not getting a high five. Chill.

[Celtics1990]

I was a big Grant Hill fan as a youngster, probably the same age as that kid and my dad brought me to the garden. I owned a grant hill jersey and my dad bought the tickets against the pistons so I could see him. I wore a Celtics jersey because i am loyal to my team over players.

TP to the TRUTH!!!

That was awesome. I have watched the clip like 50 times now. Gotta love overanalyzing things at work.

I did the exact same thing when I was younger.  Except my favorite player was Shaq.

[LarBrd33]

I loved Gary Payton when I was a kid, but I wouldn't have gone to a Sonics/Celtics game wearing a Celtics jersey and then had the nerve to ask Payton for an autograph.  I'm there rooting against him...

This is sports.  Good guys vs bad guys.  He picked the team in red so he can't expect the team in white to offer friendship.  This is what it's all about.  Unless you're in Russia and Rocky is beating up your hero, you stick with your team.  This "love everyone" crap is what causes people to cheer "MVP" for Kobe in Boston and New York.   The brat picked his team and his enemy refused to high five him. 

Kid got owned and he deserved it.  Unless you want to tell me that kid was from the Make-a-Wish foundation and was there because of LeBron... I think the video is funnier each time I watch it.   And if he WAS from the Make-A-Wish Foundation and was LeBron's guest...  just let LeBron make it up to him for letting him down and don't sweat it.

[Amonkey]

In Brazil, we have so many fanatics that will literally kill opponent from other teams.  A lot of the organized fans, or the hoodlums, travel to games in packs, like buses and vans.  There has been cases where things like a van of fans break down on the road, and a bus of the opposing team's fans see them, they'll go down and beat the crap of them and some even shooting (this fanatics are usually the poor, violent criminals) the fans.

On that note, this kid left hanging is funny as hell.

[johnnyrondo]

delete

[Scottie]

I think it's funny, deliberate or otherwise (although it's hard to imagine it wasn't deliberate given the kid was right there in front of him).

All things being equal, this won't be the most disappointing thing that happens to the young fella over the course of his existence, so I think it's fine having a yuck about it. I know I did.

A lot of the time there's nothing more amusing than the misfortune of others.

[crownsy]

I think it's funny, deliberate or otherwise (although it's hard to imagine it wasn't deliberate given the kid was right there in front of him).

All things being equal, this won't be the most disappointing thing that happens to the young fella over the course of his existence, so I think it's fine having a yuck about it. I know I did.

A lot of the time there's nothing more amusing than the misfortune of others.

well if it was deliberate, i would think he would have high fived one of the multiple Celtics fans leaning over to the kids right to get his point across instead of quitting with the dude to the left. He seemed to already be turning back to the bench after the last Celtics fan he stopped with.

I mean, if where just going with he ignored him because the kid was yelling for a high hive and didn't get it, why did he ignore the three Celtics fans to the right of the kid who were also flipping out for a high five?

but that's just my read on it, and as i said, if he did do it on purpose, who cares? certainly not I.