Author Topic: Bye Bye...... HCA  (Read 8669 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Re: Nice to know ya HCA
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2009, 12:55:59 PM »

Offline cordobes

  • NCE
  • Ray Allen
  • ***
  • Posts: 3556
  • Tommy Points: 576
  • Basketball is like chess, only without the dice
  Boston gets 53.6% of rebounds (best in the league) while Cleveland gets 52%. Boston plays at a faster pace but our defense is better (again, best in the league). And that championship experience didn't add any points to the Spur's score when they played the Cavs in the finals 2 years ago.

So your defense is better because you play at a faster pace but give up more points?  Boston scores 101.5 points per game and the Cavs score 100.8.  So are the Cavs a better offensive team then since they apparently play at a slower pace but score almost as many points?

Yes.

Re: Bye Bye...... HCA
« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2009, 01:44:31 PM »

Offline Redz

  • Punner
  • Global Moderator
  • Red Auerbach
  • *******************************
  • Posts: 31742
  • Tommy Points: 3845
  • Yup
I see no reason why a loss last night means bye bye to home court...The Celts are plenty capable of rattling off another win streak and the teams they are up against are equally susceptible to losing some games you'd expect them to win/

Total knee jerk reaction.
Yup

Re: Bye Bye...... HCA
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2009, 05:43:49 PM »

Offline paintitgreen

  • Bill Walton
  • *
  • Posts: 1109
  • Tommy Points: 154
I'm completely with MMac here, at least as far as it pertains to the Cavs.

A) The two teams are quite even. The differences are so minute, it's not worth getting into it. It really comes down to proven champs v. the best player in the game getting even more minutes.

B) Home Court is still left to be decided - 23-27 games remaining, including two head to head, and a 2 game difference in the loss column. Not to mention, the Cavs play at Houston and San Antonio the next two nights, then at Atlanta and Miami Sunday and Monday. That's 4 games in 6 nights against teams who are top 5 in their conferences and have very good home records (Hou 23-6, SA 20-7, Atl 19-6, Mia 19-10) before playing at Boston (24-4 at home) next Friday. They seem to have caught a break with potentially both Ginobli and Duncan being out for the Spurs, but that's a really tough stretch, and it's part of a stretch where they play 8 of their next 10 on the road, going to the Southwest, Southeast, Northeast and Pacific. Not saying they'll lose all of them or anything, but they could easily drop 2 of the next 4 and be even with the Cs in the loss column by the time we meet next week.

Last night was a bad loss and a letdown, but there's no reason to throw in the towel on having a better record than the Cavs.

As for the Lakers, unlike most here, I think not having homecourt against them would be worse because of the 2-3-2 format. It's just likely when you get to the Finals that you'll lose 1 of those 3 middle home games. It's tough to take three straight against a good opponent in the playoffs. In fact, the Celtics never did that last season. (1-2, 5, 7 v. Atl and Cle; 1, 3, 5-6 v. Det, 1-2, 4, 6 v. LA). So that likely means having to win 1 of the first 2 games in LA, and 1 of the last 2 (or both of either set). That's the one I'd rather have home court for. And we're now 4 games behind the Lakers in the loss column (thanks to the tiebreaker).

But they too have some tough tests coming up. They play the Suns at home tonight, then have to go to Denver tomorrow night before going to Phoenix Sunday. And keep an eye on March 9-12; they play at Portland, Houston and San Antonio during a 3-game, 4-night stretch. They also have a 7-game, 12-night road trip through the East  in late March and return home to face Houston. There's no big tests to speak of on the trip, but they 2 back-to-backs in there and it's highly possible to drop a game on the road across the country against a team you should beat (see last night).

So don't count it out yet. Last night was certainly a bad loss, and you can't afford to lose games against those types of teams at this stage in the season but there's a lot of time and a lot of games left.
Go Celtics.

Re: Bye Bye...... HCA
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2009, 10:06:12 PM »

Offline ma11l

  • Jim Loscutoff
  • **
  • Posts: 2639
  • Tommy Points: 233
  • Let's Go Celtics
Cavs just put up 10 points in the third and are getting smoked.  Let's not count Cleveland's eggs before they hatch here.  Last night was definitely discouraging and I hope it doesn't come down to one game, but there is still a lot of basketball to play.
"Take this down," said O'Neal. "My name is Shaquille O'Neal and Paul Pierce is the (expletive) truth. Quote me on that and don't take nothing out. I knew he could play, but I didn't know he could play like this. Paul Pierce is the truth."

Re: Bye Bye...... HCA
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2009, 10:19:49 PM »

Offline hwangjini_1

  • Dennis Johnson
  • ******************
  • Posts: 18188
  • Tommy Points: 2747
  • bammokja
yep, houston is whipping cleveland. good!

too close to call for home court advantage right now. the pair of games between the c's and c's will decide it. :)
I believe Gandhi is the only person who knew about real democracy — not democracy as the right to go and buy what you want, but democracy as the responsibility to be accountable to everyone around you. Democracy begins with freedom from hunger, freedom from unemployment, freedom from fear, and freedom from hatred.
- Vandana Shiva

Re: Bye Bye...... HCA
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2009, 11:38:54 PM »

Offline rondohondo

  • NCE
  • Danny Ainge
  • **********
  • Posts: 10764
  • Tommy Points: 1196
Cleveland is blowing out San Antonio, but at least LA lost tonight.

Re: Bye Bye...... HCA
« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2009, 01:22:23 AM »

Offline chief3233

  • Jrue Holiday
  • Posts: 319
  • Tommy Points: 8
  • Bleed Green
The last month and a half is going to be fun!!!!!
"The emblem of a warrior, it's the swagger of an athlete, a champion and dynasty, it's gifted, golden, genuine and glorious. It is a lower-case god. It's the goat. The greatest of all time. What's G? It is the heart, hustle and soul of the game."