Poll: Celticsblog "fake" draft: team of the future?

[Roy Hobbs]

Woo hoo!  Go fake Portland!  Amare is the man!

[celticmaestro]

For me Las Vegas is the winner, I thought that based on potential before the season started; but seeing Mayo play this good, Bosh nothing short of dominant and Durant transforming into a complete player as well as Duhon playing very well for the Knicks, I think Vegas is the team to beat in the future of our NBA.

The questions are:

1) Can you rely on Duhon and Darko, and

2) Are three superstars (none of whom has ever been anything other than the best player on his team) going to want to share shots?  Are they too young to buy into "ubuntu"?

I'm not sure about the second question.  In regard to #1, I think Darko gets torched by Amare, and Duhon would be dominated by Ford or Calderon. 

Of course, really, any of those top three teams could win this.  It depends who gets hot in the playoffs.

I really think Darko lets me down. I think he could be a good solid starter, especially in a team like mine, but he's not showing anything in real life to get me excited, I'd be hoping my Big Three carry the load - much like the questions Perk received last year. As for Duhon, I really do think he's reliable. He's got the talent and thus far has his mind right, I think he'll surprise a lot of people.

With regards to the second question, I think the mentality of the players helps. Bosh is not a "me" player, Durant is very much a complete player and can pass the ball extremely well and Mayo is a youngster who, this season, has done everything his coach has asked for and has said he only wants to get better and learn more. I don't really see a problem with the players jelling together.

[Roy Hobbs]

With regards to the second question, I think the mentality of the players helps. Bosh is not a "me" player, Durant is very much a complete player and can pass the ball extremely well and Mayo is a youngster who, this season, has done everything his coach has asked for and has said he only wants to get better and learn more. I don't really see a problem with the players jelling together.

I agree that Bosh doesn't *seem* like a me player.  I have no idea about Durant and Mayo, though.  None of them have been anything other than the centerpiece of their offense.  It would be an interesting question.

The other issue is, of course, character.  Bosh is a good guy, Durant seems to be.  Mayo has had some issues, as have Darko, Duhon, and McCants.

(I know, we've had this discussion before.  It's partially my shameless attempt to bump the thread to get more folks to weigh in.)

[celticmaestro]

With regards to the second question, I think the mentality of the players helps. Bosh is not a "me" player, Durant is very much a complete player and can pass the ball extremely well and Mayo is a youngster who, this season, has done everything his coach has asked for and has said he only wants to get better and learn more. I don't really see a problem with the players jelling together.

I agree that Bosh doesn't *seem* like a me player.  I have no idea about Durant and Mayo, though.  None of them have been anything other than the centerpiece of their offense.  It would be an interesting question.

The other issue is, of course, character.  Bosh is a good guy, Durant seems to be.  Mayo has had some issues, as have Darko, Duhon, and McCants.

(I know, we've had this discussion before.  It's partially my shameless attempt to bump the thread to get more folks to weigh in.)

Yeah but in the pros, Mayo has been nothing short of quality both on and off the court. And this season Duhon has facilitated the New York offense really well and McCants is taking on his Sixth Man role exactly the way I would have expected him to. The roles of my role players in our NBA are similar to their roles in real life (other than Darko) and it's working a charm thus far.

[cordobes]

Minnesotta easily. If not, whichever team has Rose. 

Durant is very much a complete player

Why do you think so? In my opinion, the opposite is true and that's precisely Durant's problem, he only plays on one side of the floor.

[Roy Hobbs]

If not, whichever team has Rose. 

Why so?  Are you suggesting that Rose will have more of an individual impact on a team than other players, like Chris Paul, Howard, etc.?

I see Rose as a good player, but he's not the second biggest young difference maker in the league.

[cordobes]

If not, whichever team has Rose.

Why so?  Are you suggesting that Rose will have more of an individual impact on a team than other players, like Chris Paul, Howard, etc.?

I see Rose as a good player, but he's not the second biggest young difference maker in the league.

Well, he's not, but isn't the question about the long term future?

[Roy Hobbs]

If not, whichever team has Rose.

Why so?  Are you suggesting that Rose will have more of an individual impact on a team than other players, like Chris Paul, Howard, etc.?

I see Rose as a good player, but he's not the second biggest young difference maker in the league.

Well, he's not, but isn't the question about the long term future?

Yeah.  But Dwight Howard is 22.  Chris Paul is 23.  I think both of those players are more likely to have a long-term impact than the 20 year old Rose.

[cordobes]

If not, whichever team has Rose.

Why so?  Are you suggesting that Rose will have more of an individual impact on a team than other players, like Chris Paul, Howard, etc.?

I see Rose as a good player, but he's not the second biggest young difference maker in the league.

Well, he's not, but isn't the question about the long term future?

Yeah.  But Dwight Howard is 22.  Chris Paul is 23.  I think both of those players are more likely to have a long-term impact than the 20 year old Rose.

You are in to a huge shock then.

[celticmaestro]

Not really sure how a core of Bosh (24), Durant (19) and Mayo (20) is being overlooked here.

Durant is very much a complete player

Why do you think so? In my opinion, the opposite is true and that's precisely Durant's problem, he only plays on one side of the floor.

Have you seen Durant play this season? In college he was a complete player and he's starting to develop his game to become that in the NBA too.

[cordobes]

Not really sure how a core of Bosh (24), Durant (19) and Mayo (20) is being overlooked here.

Durant is very much a complete player

Why do you think so? In my opinion, the opposite is true and that's precisely Durant's problem, he only plays on one side of the floor.

Have you seen Durant play this season? In college he was a complete player and he's starting to develop his game to become that in the NBA too.

Yeps, I've seen him. He's still one of the worst defensive starters in the entire NBA. He simply lacks the lateral quickness to play that position. (and from "starting to develop his game to become a complete player" to "is very much a complete player" there's a huge difference).

[celticmaestro]

Not really sure how a core of Bosh (24), Durant (19) and Mayo (20) is being overlooked here.

Durant is very much a complete player

Why do you think so? In my opinion, the opposite is true and that's precisely Durant's problem, he only plays on one side of the floor.

Have you seen Durant play this season? In college he was a complete player and he's starting to develop his game to become that in the NBA too.

Yeps, I've seen him. He's still one of the worst defensive starters in the entire NBA. He simply lacks the lateral quickness to play that position. (and from "starting to develop his game to become a complete player" to "is very much a complete player" there's a huge difference).

Offensively he is, defensively he's got a lot of work to do. Even so, the kid is going to be a superstar. No? TP anyway for your insight cordobes.

[cordobes]

Not really sure how a core of Bosh (24), Durant (19) and Mayo (20) is being overlooked here.

Durant is very much a complete player

Why do you think so? In my opinion, the opposite is true and that's precisely Durant's problem, he only plays on one side of the floor.

Have you seen Durant play this season? In college he was a complete player and he's starting to develop his game to become that in the NBA too.

Yeps, I've seen him. He's still one of the worst defensive starters in the entire NBA. He simply lacks the lateral quickness to play that position. (and from "starting to develop his game to become a complete player" to "is very much a complete player" there's a huge difference).

Offensively he is, defensively he's got a lot of work to do. Even so, the kid is going to be a superstar. No? TP anyway for your insight cordobes.

Back at you. Yes (he probably would be a superstar if he wasn't so young and playing for such a bad team), but he needs to add weight in order to be matched with bigger, slower players. He's a ectomorph though (like Bosh, for example), so the process will take some time. That's one of the reasons I don't particular like that core, you'd need huge bodies at the 1 and at the 5. If I was a GM owning the contractual rights of all those guys, I'd immediately trade one of them.

[celticmaestro]

Not really sure how a core of Bosh (24), Durant (19) and Mayo (20) is being overlooked here.

Durant is very much a complete player

Why do you think so? In my opinion, the opposite is true and that's precisely Durant's problem, he only plays on one side of the floor.

Have you seen Durant play this season? In college he was a complete player and he's starting to develop his game to become that in the NBA too.

Yeps, I've seen him. He's still one of the worst defensive starters in the entire NBA. He simply lacks the lateral quickness to play that position. (and from "starting to develop his game to become a complete player" to "is very much a complete player" there's a huge difference).

Offensively he is, defensively he's got a lot of work to do. Even so, the kid is going to be a superstar. No? TP anyway for your insight cordobes.

Back at you. Yes (he probably would be a superstar if he wasn't so young and playing for such a bad team), but he needs to add weight in order to be matched with bigger, slower players. He's a ectomorph though (like Bosh, for example), so the process will take some time. That's one of the reasons I don't particular like that core, you'd need huge bodies at the 1 and at the 5. If I was a GM owning the contractual rights of all those guys, I'd immediately trade one of them.

Haha thankfully we don't deal with contracts in this league. I think he does need to put on some muscle, but then again Kobe did and then lost it because he lost a little something. He will be great and right now isn't that far off.

[wdleehi]

The T-Wolves.


They have the best young player, Lebron.


They have the number 2 NBA assist man.


They have the number 2 NBA rebound man. 


Good role player at SG and PF. 


Depth is nice. 

Having a top 3 NBA player along with good young PG and C, great way to build a team.