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Which team is most likely to win the "fake" Northwest division in 2008-09?

Denver (Brand, Bibby, R. Jefferson, R. Bell,  Mutombo, etc.)
2 (6.9%)
Minnesota (Lebron, Calderon, R. Brewer, Amir Johnson, Biedrins, etc.)
5 (17.2%)
Oklahoma City (Beasley, Camby, Salmons, Crawford, Starbury, etc.)
0 (0%)
Portland (Amare, Iguodala, Gay, Horford, Ford, etc.)
22 (75.9%)
Utah  (Tmac, J.Johnson, Diop, Udrih, Aldridge, etc.)
0 (0%)

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #120 on: August 26, 2008, 10:34:52 PM »

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I confess to one of them. Who says you can't vote for your own team? ;D

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #121 on: August 26, 2008, 10:35:46 PM »

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I confess to one of them. Who says you can't vote for your own team? ;D

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #122 on: August 26, 2008, 10:37:10 PM »

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Brand at the 5 for extended minutes I think shrinks his value playing him out of position for long stretches. going up against 260-270 pounders instead of 230-240 pounders. plus matching up with centers with sometimes 4 and 5 inches on him and long arms. I don't think I'd want to do that to a guy coming off a year long injury like that. Not to mention it makes your entire frontcourt VERY small for extended periods. Good teams will slow the tempo and try to exploit that mismatch often.
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #123 on: August 26, 2008, 11:55:19 PM »

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I'm a little late to all this, and I was trying to read through 8 pages of posts as quickly as I could.  So instead of asking specific questions, I'll just state my opinions that the other GM's can respond to.

Blazers are clearly the best team on paper.  I have some concerns with the Blazers though (sorry Roy, it's easier for me to hate on the favorites than the underdogs).  It's already been mentioned, but I feel 3 point shooting (among the starters) will be a concern.  I feel defenses will be able to sag off, limiting penetration, and forcing them to an outside game where they may not thrive.  I just picture the 2004 Olympics team.  A lot of talent, a lot of ability to slash to the hoop, but when defenses sag off they may struggle to adjust.  Another concern (that I predict Roy having an easy answer for here in our fantasy world, and i'll have the same answer too when it comes to my team  :)) I see a concern of players re-signing.  Those young guys have egos, while they may be comfortable being 2nd or 3rd fiddle now, but when their contracts are up, one or two of them might desire to by the main main and leave for another team (ala Joe Johnson).

Utah, Denver, Twolves.  All 3 of them I could see surprising some people in the playoffs.  Twolves have Lebron and that's enough.  Utah and Denver, I just like the way their teams are built. Denver and Utah, I both really like that they have a clear pecking order.  I see Utah with TMac as option 1a and Joe Johnson as option 1b, I can see them both getting hot in a playoff series averageing 30ppg each, and knocking off a powerful Blazer team.  I can see the same thing (but to a lesser extent) with Denver.  Brand is option 1, Jefferson is option 2, and Bibby 3, with maybe Bibby stepping up to option 2 in the playoffs and playing huge.  I just feel Denver is very, very thin at Center, I don't see Mutombo being able to be the starting center for a full season and the playoffs.

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Blazers are the favorite, very likely the team to come out of the West.  I think they won't win the title this year due to youth, but they may make the Finals.  At the same time though I wouldn't be surprised to see them knocked off in the first or second round by a Utah or Denver.  (Let me re-emphasis, I see Blazers as the favorite, but I just wouldn't be completely surprised to see another team knock them off, unlikely, but not out of the realm of possibility).  Utah, Denver, and Minnesota I see all with potential to make the playoffs (in the order I mentioned them), but from what I see now I don't think any of them will make it to the Finals.

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #124 on: August 27, 2008, 12:02:55 AM »

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They have the most well-balanced starting line-up in the Northwest, if one values clearly defined roles and veteran leadership. (I do.)

I think it's actually McGrady's perceived *lack* of leadership that makes people discount that team.  He's an 0-fer in the playoffs thus far in his career, and he has the reputation of not being able to get over the hump.  Joe Johnson isn't any better in terms of leadership, and obviously Aldridge, Udrih, and Diop aren't the veteran leaders on that team (although Diop does have a bit of playoff experience.)

I don't mind Utah's team, but I do think talent wins out over defined roles.  Diop and Udrih were good selections where they were drafted, and I like how Scribbles put together his team.  However, in my opinion some of those guys just aren't on the same level as some of the other guys in the division.

I'm on the fence about the talent vs. defined roles (and probably because my team itself has alot of talent is why I'm on the fence  ;)).  We can just look back to past international basketball events (besides this years Olympics) and see where defined roles beat out talent.  We can also see this in past NBA teams, teams with superior talent have often lost.  Sometimes when you don't have clearly defined roles it can definitely back fire, that's why I can see a Denver or a Utah upsetting a team like Portland in the playoffs.  Again, I think the Blazers are the best team in this division, but I wouldn't be surprised to see an upset either, and I definitely think clearly defined roles would be one of the things that helps aide the upset should it happen.

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #125 on: August 27, 2008, 01:02:50 PM »

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Brand at the 5 for extended minutes I think shrinks his value playing him out of position for long stretches. going up against 260-270 pounders instead of 230-240 pounders. plus matching up with centers with sometimes 4 and 5 inches on him and long arms. I don't think I'd want to do that to a guy coming off a year long injury like that. Not to mention it makes your entire frontcourt VERY small for extended periods. Good teams will slow the tempo and try to exploit that mismatch often.

only true centers will cause brand a problem and how many true centers do we have in this league? brand is healthy. brand is healthy. how many times must i say this? allen and pierce both shut it down last year but did they look injured playing their extended minutes this year? no.

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #126 on: August 27, 2008, 01:06:33 PM »

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #127 on: August 27, 2008, 01:42:56 PM »

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I finally cast my vote. In terms of answering the question of who wins the division, I voted for the Blazers.

However, I really like Denver's starting five and nine-man rotation, and see them as a dark-horse candidate. I also like their chances of making the playoffs and possibly stealing a first round series.
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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #128 on: November 01, 2008, 12:39:32 AM »

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The Timberwolves have scheduled an early season press conference to express how they thrilled they are with the performances of Jose Calderon, Andris Biedrins, Nicolas Batumm, Anthony Parker, and even Amir Johnson.  Oh yeah... that LeBron guy is doing pretty well also.  Team of the present.  Team of the future.


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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #129 on: November 01, 2008, 01:39:31 AM »

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As long as we're back to this, I think the question of who takes the last shot on the Blazers was answered tonight.

Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #130 on: November 01, 2008, 11:14:53 AM »

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As long as we're back to this, I think the question of who takes the last shot on the Blazers was answered tonight.

Haha.  Yep.  As I said in response to the question earlier:

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #131 on: November 01, 2008, 11:32:29 AM »

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C  - Marcus Camby, Francisco Elson, Scot Pollard (media rep)
PF - Michael Beasley, Craig Smith,  Brian Scalabrine (player/coach)
SF - John Salmons, Antoine Walker, J.R. Giddens
SG - Jamal Crawford, Ricky Davis, Quincy Douby
PG - Stephon Marbury, Marcus Williams, Sam Cassell

Well, I've got to be leading the league in DNP-CD's so far.

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #132 on: November 01, 2008, 11:33:17 AM »

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C  - Marcus Camby, Francisco Elson, Scot Pollard (media rep)
PF - Michael Beasley, Craig Smith,  Brian Scalabrine (player/coach)
SF - John Salmons, Antoine Walker, J.R. Giddens
SG - Jamal Crawford, Ricky Davis, Quincy Douby
PG - Stephon Marbury, Marcus Williams, Sam Cassell

Well, I've got to be leading the league in DNP-CD's so far.

Nary a minute played for my point guard crew...On the bright side they'll be well rested for the playoffs

And well rested *during* the playoffs, too. ;)

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #133 on: November 01, 2008, 11:35:33 AM »

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C  - Marcus Camby, Francisco Elson, Scot Pollard (media rep)
PF - Michael Beasley, Craig Smith,  Brian Scalabrine (player/coach)
SF - John Salmons, Antoine Walker, J.R. Giddens
SG - Jamal Crawford, Ricky Davis, Quincy Douby
PG - Stephon Marbury, Marcus Williams, Sam Cassell

Well, I've got to be leading the league in DNP-CD's so far.

Nary a minute played for my point guard crew...On the bright side they'll be well rested for the playoffs

And well rested *during* the playoffs, too. ;)

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Re: Celticsblog Mock GM Press Conferences: Northwest Division
« Reply #134 on: November 01, 2008, 11:38:20 AM »

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Now that I look at it my center crew has yet to play a minute either... :-[

9 guys with zero minutes
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