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Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #705 on: August 05, 2008, 10:11:27 AM »

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I ran the draft, along with Celtic Fan Forever, last year.  Let me say that it is *extraordinarily* difficult to keep everything running smoothly, between updating picks, crossing off selected players, answering questions, and making tough decisions.  A five minute time gap between picks means everything is compressed and pressurized, and it's hard to keep up.

It's a thankless job, and I'm glad wdleehi stepped up to the plate and assumed control this year.  Even if you disagree with an individual decision, I think you need to respect that 1) somebody is making those tough decisions, and 2) somebody set this up for everyone in the first place.

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Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #706 on: August 05, 2008, 10:12:49 AM »

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Im not trying to slap anybody in the face, but to say it was run fine.  I distinctly remember times when people were asking for the draft to stop because they didn't know what was going on. People not sure what picks counted.  Other posters allowing people to purchase franchises.  And now we have an experienced poster and manager that has left.  And it really is sad to see especially because he was somebody that had invested alot of time in this.   

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Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #707 on: August 05, 2008, 10:17:32 AM »

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Im not trying to slap anybody in the face, but to say it was run fine.  I distinctly remember times when people were asking for the draft to stop because they didn't know what was going on. People not sure what picks counted.  Other posters allowing people to purchase franchises.  And now we have an experienced poster and manager that has left.  And it really is sad to see especially because he was somebody that had invested alot of time in this.   




For what, a minute? 


If confused, look at the 1st post.  The board has the picks in there withing a minute of the pick. 


And despite all this confusion, all 30 picks, 4 new owners and everything was updated before 4:00 when the round ends.   



2 out of 30 had issues of their own creation. 

Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #708 on: August 05, 2008, 10:22:51 AM »

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Im not trying to slap anybody in the face, but to say it was run fine.  I distinctly remember times when people were asking for the draft to stop because they didn't know what was going on. People not sure what picks counted.  Other posters allowing people to purchase franchises.  And now we have an experienced poster and manager that has left.  And it really is sad to see especially because he was somebody that had invested alot of time in this.   

I think what people are complaining about is that wdleehi didn't bend the rules.

In the situation of the first pick, it's a tough call.  Yes, the Lakers had PM'd their pick ahead of time, but they were also online.  wdleehi could have picked Lebron for them.  However, he didn't, because he had let everyone know that he would only make picks if posters weren't available.  He had also emphasized that if you were online, the draft wouldn't be held up for any reason, whether it was to complete a trade or whatever.

It's easy to criticize the situation because it was the first pick, but what if it was the #15 pick, who was online and didn't draft somebody?  Should wdleehi have stepped in and drafted for them, too?  As soon as you do that, you start getting gripes that "hey, that wasn't the player I wanted; you should have let me pick for myself".  (Something similar, but not exactly the same, happened last year).

As for selling franchises, the rules on that were clear, too.  Owners needed to be here or make other arrangements.  If they didn't, their team would be offered to somebody else.  What was the other solution?  Skip the picks, and then draft at the end of the round? 

That makes sense for some franchises, but what about Philly, that had the #15 pick?  Should they be skipped, with their owner (or new owner) now being told he has essentially the #30 pick, with no compensation?  That's a proper penalty for the owner of the team, but  what if it's a new guy taking over?  He now has no value.  It also unfairly rewards people picking after the lazy owner, as good players fall to them who really shouldn't have.  wdleehi's solution -- which was clearly set up before the beginning of the draft -- was the fairest thing, even if it hurt the owners of two active franchises (Miami and New Orleans).

Again, there are probably some decisions that I may (or may not) have handled differently, but I think we owe wdleehi thanks for stepping up and being the one to make those tough calls.

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Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #709 on: August 05, 2008, 10:31:21 AM »

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Glad you weren't in the first round? Are you kidding?

With the amount of talent that dropped, picks that were skipped and Monta Ellis being selected trading out of the first round ended up being a terrible mistake.

Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #710 on: August 05, 2008, 10:35:07 AM »

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Commish top 10 left

1)  Gasol
2)  Lewis
3)  Davis
4)  AI
5)  Bogut
6)  Kaman
7)  Davis
8)  Parker
9)  Billups
10) Ray Allen

Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #711 on: August 05, 2008, 10:40:33 AM »

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Commish top 10 left

1)  Gasol
2)  Lewis
3)  Davis
4)  AI
5)  Bogut
6)  Kaman
7)  Davis
8)  Parker
9)  Billups
10) Ray Allen
I know you said to get used to these updates but if you continue to mirror my list of best available then I'm going to give you a big :-(.
That being said who are the two Davis' I know Baron is gone and I can't think of two more.
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Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #712 on: August 05, 2008, 10:42:34 AM »

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Commish top 10 left

1)  Gasol
2)  Lewis
3)  Davis
4)  AI
5)  Bogut
6)  Kaman
7)  Davis
8)  Parker
9)  Billups
10) Ray Allen

Wow, for those of us putting stock in unprepared franchises that list is pretty damaging..

Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #713 on: August 05, 2008, 10:42:45 AM »

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The davis' are

Baron
Ricky
Glen
Paul

That's it right?

one of them is drafted already.

Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #714 on: August 05, 2008, 10:44:36 AM »

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 Missed the Baron Davis pick when making this list. 


Replace him with Carter.

Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #715 on: August 05, 2008, 10:45:37 AM »

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Commish top 10 left

1)  Gasol
2)  Lewis
3)  Davis
4)  AI
5)  Bogut
6)  Kaman
7)  Davis
8)  Parker
9)  Billups
10) Ray Allen
I know you said to get used to these updates but if you continue to mirror my list of best available then I'm going to give you a big :-(.
That being said who are the two Davis' I know Baron is gone and I can't think of two more.
Dale Davis and Antonio Davis (c. 90s / Indiana)...
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Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #716 on: August 05, 2008, 10:46:05 AM »

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My personal preference would be for the Commish to keep his top-ten to himself. ;)

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Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #717 on: August 05, 2008, 10:48:08 AM »

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My personal preference would be for the Commish to keep his top-ten to himself. ;)

Remember:  no safety nets for unprepared franchises!


Why worry?


The unprepared franchises are not going to look at this. 

Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #718 on: August 05, 2008, 10:50:31 AM »

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My personal preference would be for the Commish to keep his top-ten to himself. ;)

Remember:  no safety nets for unprepared franchises!


Why worry?


The unprepared franchises are not going to look at this. 

True, and in all honesty, only three of your top ten are in consideration for my team.  Still, I'd prefer that my competitors be given as few advantages as possible.  Remember:  bragging rights are at stake.  Those are huge!

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Re: 30 team CelticsBlog draft, year two
« Reply #719 on: August 05, 2008, 10:51:38 AM »

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