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Should we be upset with Wyc...
« on: July 03, 2008, 08:56:39 PM »

Offline quikblink

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For all the good Wyc and Co. have done for the Celtics should we be upset for their vote for the Sonics move?  The move was ratified 28-2 with only Cuban and Allen voting against it.  With all the shady business that was involved I dont like that our ownership group felt it was OK what Clay Bennett and Co did.
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Re: Should we be upset with Wyc...
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2008, 08:58:43 PM »

Offline dark_lord

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i could care less about the sonics. i admit it sucks for their fans, but i honestly dont care.  wyc's main concern is this franchise and he has done a [dang] good job!
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Re: Should we be upset with Wyc...
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2008, 09:01:01 PM »

Offline BudweiserCeltic

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Well, honestly... you have to expect owners to lookout for each other to some degree. You also have to maintain relationships, etc.

Who knows.

With all that said, it sucks for the Sonics and I really really hate the NBA taking the basketball team from Seattle, but I could care less for what Wyc voted or not.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2008, 09:01:43 PM »

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No.
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Re: Should we be upset with Wyc...
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2008, 09:07:42 PM »

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I'd have voted the same way.
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2008, 09:14:22 PM »

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No.  Owners support each other.
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Re: Should we be upset with Wyc...
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2008, 09:19:26 PM »

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No.  There was no need to burn a bridge, especially when the vote was going to pass anyway.  If you want to blame anybody for this vote going through, blame Stern.
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Re: Should we be upset with Wyc...
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2008, 09:25:00 PM »

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Quote from: cordobes on July 03, 2008, 09:07:42 PM
I'd have voted the same way.

Ditto. Seattle had their chance and they said no, then they conspired against the owners. No sympathy here for anyone except the fans.
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Re: Should we be upset with Wyc...
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2008, 09:25:56 PM »

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Quote from: quikblink on July 03, 2008, 08:56:39 PM
For all the good Wyc and Co. have done for the Celtics should we be upset for their vote for the Sonics move?  The move was ratified 28-2 with only Cuban and Allen voting against it.  With all the shady business that was involved I dont like that our ownership group felt it was OK what Clay Bennett and Co did.
I am upset with Wyc. I'm also upset with the 27 other owners so that makes what 93% of the owners in the league ... It's a disgrace.
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Re: Should we be upset with Wyc...
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2008, 09:34:06 PM »

Offline Big Ticket

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I don't know if I'm necessarily upset with Wyc or any specific owner... the whole situation is just a farce and very disheartening.  One the whole I am very surprised that only Cuban and the other Northwestern owner voted against it... I really thought there were more owners in the league that would be concerned about the type of message this sets, so I guess I actually am a little upset with Wyc.  However it's a small part... probably 60% Stern, 35% Bennett, and 5% dispersed among the other 27 owners.
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Re: Should we be upset with Wyc...
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2008, 09:35:48 PM »

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I just kinda think it's a waste to have a team in Ok. City- hopefully after a couple of years, they crash and burn and either move back to Seattle or to a bigger city.

I can see why Wyc did it, but don't agree with how it all went down in the first place.
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Re: Should we be upset with Wyc...
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2008, 09:40:56 PM »

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Quote from: Big Ticket on July 03, 2008, 09:34:06 PM
I don't know if I'm necessarily upset with Wyc or any specific owner... the whole situation is just a farce and very disheartening.  One the whole I am very surprised that only Cuban and the other Northwestern owner voted against it... I really thought there were more owners in the league that would be concerned about the type of message this sets, so I guess I actually am a little upset with Wyc.  However it's a small part... probably 60% Stern, 35% Bennett, and 5% dispersed among the other 27 owners.

I'm not sure Cuban's motives were completely altruistic.  Oklahoma City is currently Mavericks country, right?  If you move a team there, the Mavs potentially lose money.

As for Allen, he owns the Seahawks, doesn't he?  It could be he's trying not to irritate the home fans.

I doubt very much that these two stood up soley out of principle.
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Re: Should we be upset with Wyc...
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2008, 09:43:55 PM »

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because they have to do business with each other, it's highly unlikely wyc would be able to vote with his conscience on this one. the seattle fans really got screwed with this one. david zirin just wrote an article up on it at counterpunch, with a nice quote from ray allen. there's no doubt the owners planned to move the team to oklahoma city the second they bought the team.
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Re: Should we be upset with Wyc...
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2008, 10:09:42 PM »

Offline Frontierboy

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His vote would not have mattered as 28-2 is the same as 27-3

So who cares....... also it's over now...... 6 months from now no one will remember it anyways.
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Re: Should we be upset with Wyc...
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2008, 10:11:10 PM »

Offline blazingarrow

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The NBA won't be the same without the Seattle Super Sonics.

However, this is  the sad reality of business...

There is not a lot of room for conscience.

Sometimes people have to do things they might not agree with, or want to. In this case, there was no reason to do anything that might hurt future  dealings with Sonic ownership. Especially just to prove a point, that's just not smart.

The expression "it's not personal, it's just business" exists for a reason.

Bottom line...Wyc did right by the Celtics by not alienating any of the other owners, and doing right by the Celtics is the only thing that matters.
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