Investigation launched into death of Celtics fan

[SShoreFan 2.0]

From Boston.com comes this "disturbing" story

BOSTON --Homicide detectives have launched an investigation into the death of a man taken into police custody after the Celtics' NBA Finals win earlier this month.

Police assigned to the Brookline Avenue and Fenway area to monitor pedestrians and traffic after the Celtic's victory said they spotted 22-year-old Daniel Woodman of Southwick shortly before 1 a.m. on June 18 crossing a street.

Police said Woodman, who was walking with four others, was drinking from an open container of what they believed was alcohol.

Police said Woodman fled when they approached him and struggled as they tried to handcuff him. Police said they realized Woodman was in medical distress and began administering CPR and called for an ambulance.

Woodman was taken to Beth Israel Medical Center and listed in critical condition. He died Sunday.

Suffolk County District Attorney's Office and Boston Police Internal Affairs Division are also investigating the circumstances of Woodman's death.

Investigators are awaiting the results of Woodman's autopsy to determine the cause and manner of his death.

[winsomme]

From Boston.com comes this "disturbing" story

BOSTON --Homicide detectives have launched an investigation into the death of a man taken into police custody after the Celtics' NBA Finals win earlier this month.

Police assigned to the Brookline Avenue and Fenway area to monitor pedestrians and traffic after the Celtic's victory said they spotted 22-year-old Daniel Woodman of Southwick shortly before 1 a.m. on June 18 crossing a street.

Police said Woodman, who was walking with four others, was drinking from an open container of what they believed was alcohol.

Police said Woodman fled when they approached him and struggled as they tried to handcuff him. Police said they realized Woodman was in medical distress and began administering CPR and called for an ambulance.

Woodman was taken to Beth Israel Medical Center and listed in critical condition. He died Sunday.

Suffolk County District Attorney's Office and Boston Police Internal Affairs Division are also investigating the circumstances of Woodman's death.

Investigators are awaiting the results of Woodman's autopsy to determine the cause and manner of his death.

killed for drinking a beer.....sickening.

you don't arrest someone for drinking a beer in public on the night of city wide celebration....you spill out the beer and send them on their way.

the kid runs.....let him go...my God. do you really have to "subdue" a guy drinking a beer in public? i mean, is there any common sense in the world....

[Roy Hobbs]

From Boston.com comes this "disturbing" story

BOSTON --Homicide detectives have launched an investigation into the death of a man taken into police custody after the Celtics' NBA Finals win earlier this month.

Police assigned to the Brookline Avenue and Fenway area to monitor pedestrians and traffic after the Celtic's victory said they spotted 22-year-old Daniel Woodman of Southwick shortly before 1 a.m. on June 18 crossing a street.

Police said Woodman, who was walking with four others, was drinking from an open container of what they believed was alcohol.

Police said Woodman fled when they approached him and struggled as they tried to handcuff him. Police said they realized Woodman was in medical distress and began administering CPR and called for an ambulance.

Woodman was taken to Beth Israel Medical Center and listed in critical condition. He died Sunday.

Suffolk County District Attorney's Office and Boston Police Internal Affairs Division are also investigating the circumstances of Woodman's death.

Investigators are awaiting the results of Woodman's autopsy to determine the cause and manner of his death.

killed for drinking a beer.....sickening.

you don't arrest someone for drinking a beer in public on the night of city wide celebration....you spill out the beer and send them on their way.

the kid runs.....let him go...my God. do you really have to "subdue" a guy drinking a beer in public? i mean, is there any common sense in the world....

We don't know all the circumstances here.  I think it's difficult to call something "sickening" when we know absolutely none of the facts, other than that this guy 1) fled cops, 2) resisted arrest, and 3) died.  I know people have a propensity to fill in the facts as they see fit, but I'm not going to judge until I have more facts.

[JSD]

A little eerie that he is 22…

[JSD]

From Boston.com comes this "disturbing" story

BOSTON --Homicide detectives have launched an investigation into the death of a man taken into police custody after the Celtics' NBA Finals win earlier this month.

Police assigned to the Brookline Avenue and Fenway area to monitor pedestrians and traffic after the Celtic's victory said they spotted 22-year-old Daniel Woodman of Southwick shortly before 1 a.m. on June 18 crossing a street.

Police said Woodman, who was walking with four others, was drinking from an open container of what they believed was alcohol.

Police said Woodman fled when they approached him and struggled as they tried to handcuff him. Police said they realized Woodman was in medical distress and began administering CPR and called for an ambulance.

Woodman was taken to Beth Israel Medical Center and listed in critical condition. He died Sunday.

Suffolk County District Attorney's Office and Boston Police Internal Affairs Division are also investigating the circumstances of Woodman's death.

Investigators are awaiting the results of Woodman's autopsy to determine the cause and manner of his death.

killed for drinking a beer.....sickening.

you don't arrest someone for drinking a beer in public on the night of city wide celebration....you spill out the beer and send them on their way.

the kid runs.....let him go...my God. do you really have to "subdue" a guy drinking a beer in public? i mean, is there any common sense in the world....

We don't know all the circumstances here.  I think it's difficult to call something "sickening" when we know absolutely none of the facts, other than that this guy 1) fled cops, 2) resisted arrest, and 3) died.  I know people have a propensity to fill in the facts as they see fit, but I'm not going to judge until I have more facts.

Is that Roy Hobbs the attorney speaking?

I have to agree with Winsomme, Unless he is putting someone else in danger on a night like that dump it out and move on.

[jpd985]

From Boston.com comes this "disturbing" story

BOSTON --Homicide detectives have launched an investigation into the death of a man taken into police custody after the Celtics' NBA Finals win earlier this month.

Police assigned to the Brookline Avenue and Fenway area to monitor pedestrians and traffic after the Celtic's victory said they spotted 22-year-old Daniel Woodman of Southwick shortly before 1 a.m. on June 18 crossing a street.

Police said Woodman, who was walking with four others, was drinking from an open container of what they believed was alcohol.

Police said Woodman fled when they approached him and struggled as they tried to handcuff him. Police said they realized Woodman was in medical distress and began administering CPR and called for an ambulance.

Woodman was taken to Beth Israel Medical Center and listed in critical condition. He died Sunday.

Suffolk County District Attorney's Office and Boston Police Internal Affairs Division are also investigating the circumstances of Woodman's death.

Investigators are awaiting the results of Woodman's autopsy to determine the cause and manner of his death.

killed for drinking a beer.....sickening.

you don't arrest someone for drinking a beer in public on the night of city wide celebration....you spill out the beer and send them on their way.

the kid runs.....let him go...my God. do you really have to "subdue" a guy drinking a beer in public? i mean, is there any common sense in the world....

We don't know all the circumstances here.  I think it's difficult to call something "sickening" when we know absolutely none of the facts, other than that this guy 1) fled cops, 2) resisted arrest, and 3) died.  I know people have a propensity to fill in the facts as they see fit, but I'm not going to judge until I have more facts.

Is that Roy Hobbs they attorney speaking?

I have to agree with Winsomme, Unless he is putting someone else in danger on a night like that dump it out and move on.

If he didn't run maybe they would have let him dump it.

[winsomme]

From Boston.com comes this "disturbing" story

BOSTON --Homicide detectives have launched an investigation into the death of a man taken into police custody after the Celtics' NBA Finals win earlier this month.

Police assigned to the Brookline Avenue and Fenway area to monitor pedestrians and traffic after the Celtic's victory said they spotted 22-year-old Daniel Woodman of Southwick shortly before 1 a.m. on June 18 crossing a street.

Police said Woodman, who was walking with four others, was drinking from an open container of what they believed was alcohol.

Police said Woodman fled when they approached him and struggled as they tried to handcuff him. Police said they realized Woodman was in medical distress and began administering CPR and called for an ambulance.

Woodman was taken to Beth Israel Medical Center and listed in critical condition. He died Sunday.

Suffolk County District Attorney's Office and Boston Police Internal Affairs Division are also investigating the circumstances of Woodman's death.

Investigators are awaiting the results of Woodman's autopsy to determine the cause and manner of his death.

killed for drinking a beer.....sickening.

you don't arrest someone for drinking a beer in public on the night of city wide celebration....you spill out the beer and send them on their way.

the kid runs.....let him go...my God. do you really have to "subdue" a guy drinking a beer in public? i mean, is there any common sense in the world....

We don't know all the circumstances here.  I think it's difficult to call something "sickening" when we know absolutely none of the facts, other than that this guy 1) fled cops, 2) resisted arrest, and 3) died.  I know people have a propensity to fill in the facts as they see fit, but I'm not going to judge until I have more facts.

the whole encounter was avoidable....the kid could have had a heart condition been on something....who knows, like you said, but based on what the CITY is reporting, there should have been no encounter to begin with.

that's how i see it, anyway..

[Roy Hobbs]

Is that Roy Hobbs they attorney speaking?

I have to agree with Winsomme, Unless he is putting someone else in danger on a night like that dump it out and move on.

What was his level of intoxication?  Was he a risk to himself or others?  How was he conducting himself?  What were the other circumstances in the area that night?

These are facts that need to be known to determine whether an arrest was appropriate.  From the very little I've heard on this subject, the kid had a preexisting heart condition, which in all likelihood led to his cardiac arrest.  Sad, to be sure, but I think labeling the officers' conduct as "sickening" is inappropriate until such time as more facts are known.

I understand that people hate the police.  However, I think it's wrong to imply some sort of misconduct without having a factual basis for doing so.  What you and winsomme are doing is blaming the cops for enforcing the law.  Without more facts, I'm not going to condemn the officers for doing their job.

[winsomme]

Is that Roy Hobbs they attorney speaking?

I have to agree with Winsomme, Unless he is putting someone else in danger on a night like that dump it out and move on.

What was his level of intoxication?  Was he a risk to himself or others?  How was he conducting himself?  What were the other circumstances in the area that night?

These are facts that need to be known to determine whether an arrest was appropriate.  From the very little I've heard on this subject, the kid had a preexisting heart condition, which in all likelihood led to his cardiac arrest.  Sad, to be sure, but I think labeling the officers' conduct as "sickening" is inappropriate until such time as more facts are known.

I understand that people hate the police.  However, I think it's wrong to imply some sort of misconduct without having a factual basis for doing so.  What you and winsomme are doing is blaming the cops for enforcing the law.  Without more facts, I'm not going to condemn the officers for doing their job.

who said anything about hating the police? now who's jumping to conclusions....

as for "enforcing the law", that is a total copout....the situation was avoidable. that's what makes it "sickening" for me...

[rondohondo]

Is that Roy Hobbs they attorney speaking?

I have to agree with Winsomme, Unless he is putting someone else in danger on a night like that dump it out and move on.

What was his level of intoxication?  Was he a risk to himself or others?  How was he conducting himself?  What were the other circumstances in the area that night?

These are facts that need to be known to determine whether an arrest was appropriate.  From the very little I've heard on this subject, the kid had a preexisting heart condition, which in all likelihood led to his cardiac arrest.  Sad, to be sure, but I think labeling the officers' conduct as "sickening" is inappropriate until such time as more facts are known.

I understand that people hate the police.  However, I think it's wrong to imply some sort of misconduct without having a factual basis for doing so.  What you and winsomme are doing is blaming the cops for enforcing the law.  Without more facts, I'm not going to condemn the officers for doing their job.

who said anything about hating the police? now who's jumping to conclusions....

as for "enforcing the law", that is a total copout....

in defense of the cops, if someone who is intoxicated try's to flee the police I would think they have reasonable cause to go after him. They dont know why he is running , he could have a bunch of coke or heroin on him that he is looking to distribute. I am not saying he did , but you don't run from the cops, who knows , maybe they would have just poured his beer out and let him go on his way?

[Roy Hobbs]

Is that Roy Hobbs they attorney speaking?

I have to agree with Winsomme, Unless he is putting someone else in danger on a night like that dump it out and move on.

What was his level of intoxication?  Was he a risk to himself or others?  How was he conducting himself?  What were the other circumstances in the area that night?

These are facts that need to be known to determine whether an arrest was appropriate.  From the very little I've heard on this subject, the kid had a preexisting heart condition, which in all likelihood led to his cardiac arrest.  Sad, to be sure, but I think labeling the officers' conduct as "sickening" is inappropriate until such time as more facts are known.

I understand that people hate the police.  However, I think it's wrong to imply some sort of misconduct without having a factual basis for doing so.  What you and winsomme are doing is blaming the cops for enforcing the law.  Without more facts, I'm not going to condemn the officers for doing their job.

who said anything about hating the police? now who's jumping to conclusions....

as for "enforcing the law", that is a total copout....the situation was avoidable. that's what makes it "sickening" for me...

I didn't say you hate the police.  However, the police in general aren't held in very high regard in this country any more.  People automatically are conditioned to assume the worst.

As for enforcing the law, how is that a cop-out?  The kid resisted arrest and fled from cops.  Personally, I want cops pursuing people who are fleeing from them 100% of the time.  While many of those people will be relatively innocent (guilty of misdemeanors and poor judgment), a certain percentage of those people will have fled for good reason.  I don't want cops overlooking such behavior just because the Celtics won a title.

[Rondo2287]

The point is that the kid broke the law.  You can't get mad at the cops for doing their jobs.  Until we know more we have to assume the cops acted correctly.  It sounds like some people here just have a problem dealing with authority and are living vicariously through this kids story. 

[Jughead]

This is an unfortunate and rare consequence of improperly applied restraint.  The police are trained in this regard as are mental health providers at psychiatric facilities, but it does happen and there is loads of research on the subject.  You don't actually have to do any dramatic trauma to induce this kind of potentially fatal consequence especially with someone who has been drinking excessively...

[Kwhit10]

The metro this morning said in their article the kid had a "previous heart condition and an outstanding warrant for his arrest."

[Roy Hobbs]

The metro this morning said in their article the kid had a "previous heart condition and an outstanding warrant for his arrest."

There you go.  More facts.

I feel badly that the kid is dead.  However, he made a very poor decision.