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Re: Will Sam part 2 Mean no House?!
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2008, 08:08:20 PM »

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The easiest way to rectify this potential travesty?  Don't resign Sam.  Eddie is ten times the player he is right now.

Let's be clear that the only person who says the Celts are resigning Sam right now is Sam.  Until it becomes official, I'm hoping it doesn't happen.
Took the words out of my mouth. Let's hold off on worrying about him until if/when it happens. I'm thinking it won't. House is better in just about every way.
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Re: Sam Cassell will be back.
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2008, 08:20:10 PM »

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What could Sam teach the younger players? Hold the ball till offense stops? Look for your own shot? Play no "D." Don't listen to the coach? Sam needs to count himself lucky that Doc played him as much as he did, and the team was able to overcome it. Sam it's time to call it a career.

Re: Sam Cassell will be back.
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2008, 08:23:09 PM »

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What could Sam teach the younger players? Hold the ball till offense stops? Look for your own shot? Play no "D." Don't listen to the coach? Sam needs to count himself lucky that Doc played him as much as he did, and the team was able to overcome it. Sam it's time to call it a career.

to be fair, rondo has credited him with his willingness to attack and his shooting along with ray and being a great teammate and teacher.

now, that could be fluff for the media no doubt, but sam never caused any trouble team chemistry wise, that we know of anyway.
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Re: Sam Cassell will be back.
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2008, 08:36:36 PM »

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When he's hitting his shots, we all love him, when he's missing, we all hate him........

Does Sam = Antoine?

Re: Sam Cassell will be back.
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2008, 08:42:49 PM »

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I hope Sam Cassell does good if he does come back. He never got into a groove when he joined us.
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Re: Sam Cassell will be back.
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2008, 08:45:10 PM »

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What could Sam teach the younger players? Hold the ball till offense stops? Look for your own shot? Play no "D." Don't listen to the coach? Sam needs to count himself lucky that Doc played him as much as he did, and the team was able to overcome it. Sam it's time to call it a career.

to be fair, rondo has credited him with his willingness to attack and his shooting along with ray and being a great teammate and teacher.

now, that could be fluff for the media no doubt, but sam never caused any trouble team chemistry wise, that we know of anyway.

He did complain one series about playing time (i think it was the detroit series) and he was immediately played in the next game (while Eddie sat).

I was fine with signing Sam as injury insurance for Rondo, but he's not a good player anymore. Even when he's hitting on offense, the guy he's guarding he's allowing to get hot. Or the guy he's guarding is blowing by him and KG or Perk get called for the foul. Also, he doesn't help the other Celtics on offense as a pg should. He's like a cooler. I say pass.

Re: Sam Cassell will be back.
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2008, 08:50:13 PM »

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Who knows what he is teaching Rondo, etc.

Anyways, he could help mentor Pruitt, right? Sam can score, once in a while, in spurts.. and he can talk big too with a swagger!

Actually, even though most of us people are trashing him like he's the worst 13th player ever, but come on.. Maybe he can learn some plays, and then he will have no excuse but to run plays most of the time. He has the whole summer, right? =)

BTW, I don't think this sequel will have the same characters. I'm pretty sure there will be a few more new additions, whether unpleasant or pleasant.

Anyways, sequels never have half of their characters already gone after a successful first one.
We don't need him to teach out young guys to play like he did this year. And we have Doc to teach our PG not him.
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Re: Sam Cassell will be back.
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2008, 08:50:18 PM »

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I'd pass.

Re: Sam Cassell will be back.
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2008, 08:58:49 PM »

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If Cassell is coming back then the C's must be ready to give Gabe Pruitt significant minutes and let Eddie House go.

Re: Sam Cassell will be back.
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2008, 08:59:29 PM »

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Hmm, Sam and movies...





Re: Will Sam part 2 Mean no House?!
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2008, 09:02:01 PM »

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Rondo, House and Pruitt can handle all the PG duties. Cassell isnt worth the roster spot or the 1.2 mil IMO. Bring him on as an assistant coach and let him play if we lose someone to a major injury.

Re: Will Sam part 2 Mean no House?!
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2008, 09:05:09 PM »

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Let's hope we keep Eddie over Cassell. Anybody got Danny's email?

Re: Will Sam part 2 Mean no House?!
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2008, 09:07:24 PM »

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I doubt very seriously that Sam will be back ... Eddie is far more valuable and has proven himself so in the Finals. Sam is of very little value to this team, other than his friendships with Ray and KG, and that's not worth losing a guy like Eddie. Eddie stays, Sam goes ... done deal.
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Re: Will Sam part 2 Mean no House?!
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2008, 09:10:38 PM »

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The easiest way to rectify this potential travesty?  Don't resign Sam.  Eddie is ten times the player he is right now.

Let's be clear that the only person who says the Celts are resigning Sam right now is Sam.  Until it becomes official, I'm hoping it doesn't happen.

Yeah, I really don't see Sam coming back.  But I also don't think the C's will go into next year with House as the backup PG.

They were incredibly uncomfortable with him as the backup PG last year, I can't see them doing it again, unless they think Pruitt can really contribute when House is ineffective. 

Most likely, they will bring in someone else to be the backup PG, and House will only be back if 1. he comes cheap (just his 20% raise on the non-bird exception), and 2. he is OK with being the specialist/4th guard.

Re: Will Sam part 2 Mean no House?!
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2008, 09:34:55 PM »

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What about signing neither of them?  I wasn't all that impressed with either one in the playoffs.  For all the slack Cassell gets, House wasn't a heck of a lot better.  While he played well in the dramatic comeback in game 4, there were times in the Lakers series (and earlier in the playoffs) where he was an enormous liability every time he handled the ball.  Had Phil Jackson been awake during the playoffs, the Lakers might have exploited this more.