At what point do we bench Perk?

[Mirza]

PERK IS OUR ONLY TRUE CENTER SO WE MUST LET HIM PLAY, AND HOPE HE WILL BOUNCE BACK IN THE GAME #6

[Triboy16]

Perkins has been really disappointing in this series so far. He is proving he can only play well against certain players or team. A good player is good against anyone and/or team.(though to be fair in some respects perk is giving up like 5 inches in height)

Perk is too slow in defense adjustments, hasn't even taken one charge, isn't getting the rebounds we need and on offense he has been pretty useless just passing balls from top of the key.

I think its slowly time for doc to put in pj and kg as the starters (pj has been really good) . I also even like leon and glen davis coming in off the bench.

Perk is a strong kid but i think because he natually cannot jump well and his foot speed is below average he needs to lose 10 more pounds this summer(without sacrificing much muscles)

[wdleehi]

Perkins has been really disappointing in this series so far. He is proving he can only play well against certain players or team. A good player is good against anyone and/or team.(though to be fair in some respects perk is giving up like 5 inches in height)

Perk is too slow in defense adjustments, hasn't even taken one charge, isn't getting the rebounds we need and on offense he has been pretty useless just passing balls from top of the key.

I think its slowly time for doc to put in pj and kg as the starters (pj has been really good) . I also even like leon and glen davis coming in off the bench.

Perk is a strong kid but i think because he natually cannot jump well and his foot speed is below average he needs to lose 10 more pounds this summer(without sacrificing much muscles)

Perkins has been the second best big man defensively for the Celtics.


He isn't taking charges.  It isn't his game.  He is going after the shot or the player.  He is an interior defender that makes players think twice driving.  He changes shots. 

And his rotations for the most part have been good.   

[CoachBo]

We won't have to bench him. He benches himself with silly fouls.

And it's without question that we were a better team last night on the floor without him. He is a massive playoff disappointment - I disagree in total with his defensive performance; he looks confused out there and he's busting several assignments - and I'm ready to consider moving him to upgrade the position.

[wdleehi]

We won't have to bench him. He benches himself with silly fouls.

And it's without question that we were a better team last night on the floor without him. He is a massive playoff disappointment - I disagree in total with his defensive performance; he looks confused out there and he's busting several assignments - and I'm ready to consider moving him to upgrade the position.

Then why was he on the floor during the big run in the 2nd and 3rd quarter?    Why was he a plus 13 on the floor?  (even with the struggles the starters had in the 1st quarter)

[PRIDE]

Perk is still coming along. Remember he is only 23. He has worked very hard and hes come a long way. I think hes playing good interior defense and thats really what hes needed for. He is a role player and he gets his job done.

PJ Brown has been excellent off the Bench and I think he should be the first big off the bench, followed by Leon Powe. Big Baby should get a few minutes to bring some energy while KG sits. If he plays bad bench him for Powe, if he plays well let him continue.

Perk needs to learn to get low. He'd be more effective if he did. He would be able to box out better, get after boards quicker, and add some elevation to his game. If Perk had a little more lift he would be an animal out there.

[BringToughnessBack]

Never during the playoffs....he has never done too well against that big dufus on there team...he is still been decent on D.

Actually, almost never...if you can talk the Chief into coming out of retirement, then I will consider but until then, he is our best starting option at Center...

[tanner]

Make a case that Powe or Baby or PJ should play over Perk in this series.  Just don't say Perk sucks.  Don't bench him because of his offensive deficiencies.  That's not his role.  Perk is our best interior defender.  He's our best big after KG defending Lebron's pick and rolls.  His rebounding fluctuates but so have the other bigs'.

[CoachBo]

We won't have to bench him. He benches himself with silly fouls.

And it's without question that we were a better team last night on the floor without him. He is a massive playoff disappointment - I disagree in total with his defensive performance; he looks confused out there and he's busting several assignments - and I'm ready to consider moving him to upgrade the position.

Then why was he on the floor during the big run in the 2nd and 3rd quarter?    Why was he a plus 13 on the floor?  (even with the struggles the starters had in the 1st quarter)

It amuses me to see people villifying Cassell and defending Perkins. Neither has been remotely effective in this series.

Now, if Sam I Am was one of Danny's draft choices, I'm sure that would be different.

Perkins is a journeyman at best. We can probably survive his blown defensive assignments and his total lack of offense against Detroit.

The thought of him playing Gasol will keep me up at night.

The position must be upgraded in the off-season.

[wdleehi]

We won't have to bench him. He benches himself with silly fouls.

And it's without question that we were a better team last night on the floor without him. He is a massive playoff disappointment - I disagree in total with his defensive performance; he looks confused out there and he's busting several assignments - and I'm ready to consider moving him to upgrade the position.

Then why was he on the floor during the big run in the 2nd and 3rd quarter?    Why was he a plus 13 on the floor?  (even with the struggles the starters had in the 1st quarter)

It amuses me to see people villifying Cassell and defending Perkins. Neither has been remotely effective in this series.

Now, if Sam I Am was one of Danny's draft choices, I'm sure that would be different.

Perkins is a journeyman at best. We can probably survive his blown defensive assignments and his total lack of offense against Detroit.

The thought of him playing Gasol will keep me up at night.

The position must be upgraded in the off-season.

Difference is, one of them is the best player on this team at their position. 

The other one has played bad and has killed the Celtics flow on offense and defense. 



He hasn't been blowing defensive assignments.  I see him out there playing help defense.  I see him body up Big Z trying to get him out of his comfort zone. 


Perkins has been effective.  He has played help defense.  He has defended the paint. 

[EJPLAYA]

We won't have to bench him. He benches himself with silly fouls.

And it's without question that we were a better team last night on the floor without him. He is a massive playoff disappointment - I disagree in total with his defensive performance; he looks confused out there and he's busting several assignments - and I'm ready to consider moving him to upgrade the position.

Then why was he on the floor during the big run in the 2nd and 3rd quarter?    Why was he a plus 13 on the floor?  (even with the struggles the starters had in the 1st quarter)

It amuses me to see people villifying Cassell and defending Perkins. Neither has been remotely effective in this series.

Now, if Sam I Am was one of Danny's draft choices, I'm sure that would be different.

Perkins is a journeyman at best. We can probably survive his blown defensive assignments and his total lack of offense against Detroit.

The thought of him playing Gasol will keep me up at night.

The position must be upgraded in the off-season.

It is because there is as good or better player sitting right there at that position that has proved himself all year. How is that so hard to get?! Perk doesn't have a "House" ready to come in and be the center. Sure we'd all like to have an all-star center out there, but it isn't happening.

As far as Gasol, KG will guard Gasol, not Perk. You're thinking a little far ahead though, aren't you!!

[Who]

The thought of him playing Gasol will keep me up at night.

As far as Gasol, KG will guard Gasol, not Perk. You're thinking a little far ahead though, aren't you!!

You want Perk defending Lamar Odom? I think you forgot Lamar. I wouldn't want Perk on Lamar. Only bad things happen from something like that as Utah are finding out right now. That matchup would give LA three star level players.

That series would not be a good matchup for Perk. I think he'll be on Gasol.

Anyway you're absolutely right way too far ahead. I was just nodding my head about KG on Gasol until that fella Lamar Odom popped back in my head, him matched up with Perk scared the life out of me in a single instant. Would not like that.

[Reyquila]

Perk has never been efective as a celtic. He is a monster of a rebounder when he is by himself. The ball has to fall on top of him for him to rebound. He has putty hands. How many balls fall out of his hands? How many balls are taken away from him game after game? He can only score when he can dunk the ball. Anybody 6.10 can dunk a ball when standing underneath the basket. He scored 1 point last night. He is utterly useless, except when he is lucky. And that mean look of his is his only constant. He can hardly defend anybody. He is 6.10 and at least 280 and he is an invisible force 90% of the time.
Ive been saying this since the end of the first season he started playing regularly. He has had a extremely few games where he has been effective; I cant say he  has ben ineffective 100% of the times; but we need a lot more than he can give us. We gotta upgrade that position ASAP. We wont beat Detroit, if we beat the Cavs. Ive been watching detroit games now and they have around 4 guys rebounding on both ends of the court at all times. It will be too much for Perk, who will not go out of his 3 ft. zone underneath the basket. Im glad someone here also sees that perk has been more of a negative force than a positive. About time someone else took his blinders off. Thank you CoachBo for also seeing the obvious; its been there forever; fans just dont want to see it.

[Toine43]

I trust Perk to come back from a couple of bad showings. And I completely disagree with what the op said about his offense. Of late, besides the last couple of games, Perk has been lights out from the field. Early on in the series he was even converting the 2 to 3 iso plays that the team runs for him each game (plays that have been criticized in the past by many-a-celticsblogger). Both his hook and his fall-away shot have been dropping for him for most of the playoffs.

[BrickJames]

I'm glad that the general consensus, finally, is that Perk flat out stinks.  I kind of feel sorry for the guy...wait no, not really.  He's not a likable player - at all.

I'd argue he is the worst starting center in the NBA.  Please, try to find one worse.  Really.  It's too bad we have to put up with his crap for another year.  He has shown no signs of improvement at either end of the floor.  Yeah, he's 23, and his contract is chump change, but he's in his FIFTH year and really doesn't add anything to the team except the ability to hack the crap out of people.  We could easily find a more capable stiff to fill that role.