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The 4th Quarter Frenzy
« on: May 03, 2008, 12:44:33 PM »

Offline Redz

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There was a period of about a minute last night that really stood out to me. It was at about the 6 minute mark (right before Pierce fouled out).  The Hawks had just missed on a bunch of chances and putbacks on their end and the Celts came down and did the same on their end.  The place was going absolutely bananas, and both teams were playing with a ridiculous amount of urgency for the amount of time left in the game.  I have seldom seen so much energy.  It looked like the last few seconds of a hockey game when a team has pulled their goalie and they are peppering slapshot after slapshot away at the goalie in a desperate attempt to tie the game.  For no real reason, other than that they'd gotten caught up in the moment and forgot what they were doing, the Celtics were playing like the next hoop was going to save the world.  It was exciting to watch, but it was, for me, the most disconcerting thing I've seen from the Celts in the 3 games worth of disconcert in Atlanta. 

They were down by 4, with 6 minutes to go and they just completely lost track of what they were doing and tried to overcompensate with energy.  At their best, the Celts have matched that energy with execution.  Without the execution that use of energy is tantamount to panic, and that really disturbed me.
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There was a period of about a minute last night that really stood out to me. It was at about the 6 minute mark (right before Pierce fouled out).  The Hawks had just missed on a bunch of chances and putbacks on their end and the Celts came down and did the same on their end.  The place was going absolutely bananas, and both teams were playing with a ridiculous amount of urgency for the amount if time left in the game.  I have seldom seen so much energy.  It looked like the last few seconds of a hockey game when a team has pulled their goalie and they are peppering slapshot after slapshot away at the goalie in a desperate attempt to tie the game.  For no real reason, other than that they'd gotten caught up in the moment and forgot what they were doing, the Celtics were playing like the next hoop was going to save the world.  It was exciting to watch, but it was, for me, the most disconcerting thing I've seen from the Celts in the 3 games worth of disconcert in Atlanta. 

They were down by 4, with 6 minutes to go and they just completely lost track of what they were doing and tried to overcompensate with energy.  At their best, the Celts have matched that energy with execution.  Without the execution that use of energy is tantamount to panic, and that really disturbed me.

Nice post.  I'm constantly calling for more energy, but that's mainly on defense.  And energy without the panic certainly is preferred:)

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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2008, 01:15:16 PM »

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this is true, their was one point last night, where ray drove to the hoop for a lay up, missed it, got the rebound, missed again, got the rebound, missed again! FINALLY perkins got it and got fouled, now i was extatic to see that perk got fouled, but the bigger thing was that ray couldnt hit a shot

and i would love if any of you could tell me why ray was taking that game winning three shot instead of kicking it to kg for the tie??????

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to add onto my previous question, did anybody else notice in the final seconds when rondo was taking it up court with no TO's, that no one moved to take the 3 thus leaving rondo helpless to take a deep game tieing 3 which he air balled, ray just sat in the corner and watched

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to add onto my previous question, did anybody else notice in the final seconds when rondo was taking it up court with no TO's, that no one moved to take the 3 thus leaving rondo helpless to take a deep game tieing 3 which he air balled, ray just sat in the corner and watched

I noticed that and it drove me absolutely nuts.  I don't know if it was a bad play call, or if no one wanted the ball...but the fact that Ray did not go right up to Rondo for a handoff made no sense to me.

This team needs some poise...and they need Paul Pierce to take the game over.

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to add onto my previous question, did anybody else notice in the final seconds when rondo was taking it up court with no TO's, that no one moved to take the 3 thus leaving rondo helpless to take a deep game tieing 3 which he air balled, ray just sat in the corner and watched

I noticed that and it drove me absolutely nuts.  I don't know if it was a bad play call, or if no one wanted the ball...but the fact that Ray did not go right up to Rondo for a handoff made no sense to me.


Completely agreed... people were saying after "Ray didn't go because that's the Celtics play... Rondo drives, draws the help, and kicks to Allen in the corner." IF RONDO DROVE THEY WOULD HAVE JUST LET HIM SCORE!! If everyone on this board knows this, Allen must know this. Which leads to the next question: WHAT THE HELL!?!?!?!
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I went back and watched the replay on this one last night a few times because i was wondering the same thing.  Ray made a move to go the left corner, then tried to shake his man coming back to the top of the key, but was unable to shake him.  It's questionable whether he would have even had time to get a shot off even if Rondo had been able to get to the ball at that point.

He did make an effort to get open though.  The clock, and lack of any remaining timeouts did not allow for any margin of error there though.
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I want them to figure out how they can create easy scores to keep the offense rolling when the jumpshots are not falling.



And to me, it is in the low post.   

KG can take any Hawk one on one.  He just needs to change from the pass first mentality to shoot first before the double team. 

Pierce can take most of the SGs and SFs in the low post.

Cassell can take either of the PGs in the low post.



Also, where was Rondo working the baseline with the ball?