I really want to get Kessler

Quote from: Celtics2021 on Yesterday at 10:31:07 PM

I would be rather surprised if Kessler is on the Jazz next year.  They have not seemed interested in keeping him beyond his value as a trade asset.  He seems ripe for a sign-and-trade.

Why wouldn?t they want to keep him? 
Kessler is a 7?2/250lb center and averaged 14pts/11rebs/3ast/2blks. He is only 24 years old.

I cannot say, other than the fact that he has been rumored to be on the trade block every year and they did not really engage him on an extension this past year.  I like him, and Danny makes mistakes too.  Maybe his injury tanked his value and he signs a QO, but it just does not seem like the organization is into Kessler, and I expect him to be moved in a sign-and-trade.

They literally just traded for JJJ, they did so KNOWING they were still going to tank and try to get a top 5 pick. They aren't going to trade Luari this year, they are going to try and be better and develop their young guys in a winning culture. Between Keyonte Geore, Ace Bailey and the #2 pick they can both develop their young guys and win now.

Quote from: keevsnick on Today at 12:13:45 AM

They literally just traded for JJJ, they did so KNOWING they were still going to tank and try to get a top 5 pick. They aren't going to trade Luari this year, they are going to try and be better and develop their young guys in a winning culture. Between Keyonte Geore, Ace Bailey and the #2 pick they can both develop their young guys and win now.

Sure, but JJJ is not almost 30 years old like Lauri is. Both play the PF position as well. It makes sense to move on from Markkanen and keep Kessler.

Yeah, that would better balance the team for sure. Of course they should want to build on their young foundation, but the JJJ trade signals that they are going to try and win some games this year.

I think it would be foolish of them to just let Kessler go for nothing when they can trade Lauri instead and acquire assets. I had joked about a possible Lauri and top 4 pick for Jaylen deal a few days back before the lottery, but I think being at 2 instead of 3 or 4 does change things as Utah will likely be interested in Peterson at 2.

I do think Ainge would love to acquire Jaylen, though, and he would fit fine in their timeline (we were running a dual timeline when Ainge was in Boston), but it's now looking like Lauri and Ace rather than the #2, and I'm not sure either team wants to do that.

Quote from: keevsnick on Today at 12:13:45 AM

They literally just traded for JJJ, they did so KNOWING they were still going to tank and try to get a top 5 pick. They aren't going to trade Luari this year, they are going to try and be better and develop their young guys in a winning culture. Between Keyonte Geore, Ace Bailey and the #2 pick they can both develop their young guys and win now.

Sure, but JJJ is not almost 30 years old like Lauri is. Both play the PF position as well. It makes sense to move on from Markkanen and keep Kessler.

JJJ at 26 is a lot closer to Lauri's 29 then he is to the 19-20 their pick will be.

Teams like Utah an Washington made the trades they did KNOWING they were still going to try and get a top draft pick, they did so because they've been bad for years and want to be better.

I could see UTA trading Markkanen.  Would be interesting to see what his market value could be.

Quote from: Celtics2021 on Yesterday at 11:29:15 PM

Quote from: Goldstar88 on Yesterday at 10:41:23 PM

Quote from: Celtics2021 on Yesterday at 10:31:07 PM

I would be rather surprised if Kessler is on the Jazz next year.  They have not seemed interested in keeping him beyond his value as a trade asset.  He seems ripe for a sign-and-trade.

Why wouldn?t they want to keep him? 
Kessler is a 7?2/250lb center and averaged 14pts/11rebs/3ast/2blks. He is only 24 years old.

I cannot say, other than the fact that he has been rumored to be on the trade block every year and they did not really engage him on an extension this past year.  I like him, and Danny makes mistakes too.  Maybe his injury tanked his value and he signs a QO, but it just does not seem like the organization is into Kessler, and I expect him to be moved in a sign-and-trade.

My reading of the situation is that Danny Ainge doesn't want to pay Kessler a big contract. He likes Kessler but doesn't want to pay a limited defensive minded center. He wants to keep cap flexibility for genuine stars. Not an expensive limited center.

It will be interesting to see how Kessler's contract negotiations go. If he was willing to sign for close to $20mil, I expect they will keep him. If his price is north of $30 mil, I expect they will either trade him or let him leave in FA next summer.

Well, Kessler is a RFA this summer. If a team offers him a big contract, then Utah will be put on the spot. I agree that he is probably not Ainge's ideal Center and they also don't really need him with JJJ being able to play plenty of minutes there. But if a deal isn't there, then maybe they can find a number that works for both sides or complete a sign and trade for an interested team.