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Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #300 on: May 28, 2026, 12:32:40 PM »

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Running it back with the Jays is mostly fine, but you're gonna need to reshuffle and organize the rest of the roster better. If it means trading White, or Hauser, or both in deals to acquire additional outside talent while also using the MLE to add a FA, then you gotta do it. But standing pat basically and only adding maybe 1 player while keeping everyone else besides Vucevic would be malpractice too.

Hauser to me needs to go regardless. Let the young guys get more playing time and open up some money that way, Hauser has also been meh these last few postseasons and if he's not hitting 3s he's not as useful. I'd prefer a more veteran wing backup or just another point guard-type while Baylor and to an extent Hugo can potentially develop into the Hauser-role more next year.

White isn't untouchable to me. If they keep him, fine. But if a deal can be made to upgrade the frontcourt, I'm fine with that too.

This is pretty much where I'm at.  Keep the Jays.  Everyone else is expendable to a point.  I think they should move Hauser and hope to see more development with the kids. Tinker with roster. Reset that repeater clock and let loose come '27-28.


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Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #301 on: May 28, 2026, 12:38:02 PM »

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Running it back with the Jays is mostly fine, but you're gonna need to reshuffle and organize the rest of the roster better. If it means trading White, or Hauser, or both in deals to acquire additional outside talent while also using the MLE to add a FA, then you gotta do it. But standing pat basically and only adding maybe 1 player while keeping everyone else besides Vucevic would be malpractice too.

Hauser to me needs to go regardless. Let the young guys get more playing time and open up some money that way, Hauser has also been meh these last few postseasons and if he's not hitting 3s he's not as useful. I'd prefer a more veteran wing backup or just another point guard-type while Baylor and to an extent Hugo can potentially develop into the Hauser-role more next year.

White isn't untouchable to me. If they keep him, fine. But if a deal can be made to upgrade the frontcourt, I'm fine with that too.

This is pretty much where I'm at.  Keep the Jays.  Everyone else is expendable to a point.  I think they should move Hauser and hope to see more development with the kids. Tinker with roster. Reset that repeater clock and let loose come '27-28.

My preference would be:

1. Trade Hauser + picks to Dallas for Gafford and absorb him using the TPE

2. Sign 1 of Timelord, Porzingis, Nurkic or Mamu using the MLE

My dream is trading White + pick(s) for Kessler and a role player from Utah but I have no clue if Utah is willing to trade Kessler, but he's been my dream target for a while. Wendell Carter from the Magic is another intriguing option but idk what ORL would want and also, is he even expendable.

Anyways, in that scenario they'd still need to add another guard (like maybe Ty Jerome from Memphis if they are looking to shed salary) but the frontcourt looks a lot better like that and you still keep the Jays and probably White too.
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Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #302 on: May 28, 2026, 01:29:34 PM »

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I wonder if the Thunder would move Caruso in a mostly cost savings move.  He fits into Boston's TPE.  Hugo and 2027 1st for Caruso.  Something like that.  Thunder save a ton of money, get a young player and a pick in 27. May not be enough for Caruso, but the financial savings is huge and the Thunder Don have Topic that can fill some of the Caruso role.
don't like it.  not giving up Hugo for Caruso.  Hugo will end up being the better player by far career-wise.   Will be similar to the C's trading Joe Johnson for Rodney Rodgers instead of moving Kedrick Brown.

Hauser and #27 - probably worth it. 

Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #303 on: May 28, 2026, 01:31:05 PM »

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Running it back with the Jays is mostly fine, but you're gonna need to reshuffle and organize the rest of the roster better. If it means trading White, or Hauser, or both in deals to acquire additional outside talent while also using the MLE to add a FA, then you gotta do it. But standing pat basically and only adding maybe 1 player while keeping everyone else besides Vucevic would be malpractice too.

Hauser to me needs to go regardless. Let the young guys get more playing time and open up some money that way, Hauser has also been meh these last few postseasons and if he's not hitting 3s he's not as useful. I'd prefer a more veteran wing backup or just another point guard-type while Baylor and to an extent Hugo can potentially develop into the Hauser-role more next year.

White isn't untouchable to me. If they keep him, fine. But if a deal can be made to upgrade the frontcourt, I'm fine with that too.

This is pretty much where I'm at.  Keep the Jays.  Everyone else is expendable to a point.  I think they should move Hauser and hope to see more development with the kids. Tinker with roster. Reset that repeater clock and let loose come '27-28.

My preference would be:

1. Trade Hauser + picks to Dallas for Gafford and absorb him using the TPE

2. Sign 1 of Timelord, Porzingis, Nurkic or Mamu using the MLE

My dream is trading White + pick(s) for Kessler and a role player from Utah but I have no clue if Utah is willing to trade Kessler, but he's been my dream target for a while. Wendell Carter from the Magic is another intriguing option but idk what ORL would want and also, is he even expendable.

Anyways, in that scenario they'd still need to add another guard (like maybe Ty Jerome from Memphis if they are looking to shed salary) but the frontcourt looks a lot better like that and you still keep the Jays and probably White too.
Gafford isn't the type of player the C's should be spending picks on to acquire.  They don't have spare picks to use in deals.  if they're going to trade their first rounders away, it needs to be for someone at all-star level.  Gafford isn't that.

Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #304 on: May 28, 2026, 02:04:05 PM »

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Running it back with the Jays is mostly fine, but you're gonna need to reshuffle and organize the rest of the roster better. If it means trading White, or Hauser, or both in deals to acquire additional outside talent while also using the MLE to add a FA, then you gotta do it. But standing pat basically and only adding maybe 1 player while keeping everyone else besides Vucevic would be malpractice too.

Hauser to me needs to go regardless. Let the young guys get more playing time and open up some money that way, Hauser has also been meh these last few postseasons and if he's not hitting 3s he's not as useful. I'd prefer a more veteran wing backup or just another point guard-type while Baylor and to an extent Hugo can potentially develop into the Hauser-role more next year.

White isn't untouchable to me. If they keep him, fine. But if a deal can be made to upgrade the frontcourt, I'm fine with that too.

This is pretty much where I'm at.  Keep the Jays.  Everyone else is expendable to a point.  I think they should move Hauser and hope to see more development with the kids. Tinker with roster. Reset that repeater clock and let loose come '27-28.

My preference would be:

1. Trade Hauser + picks to Dallas for Gafford and absorb him using the TPE

2. Sign 1 of Timelord, Porzingis, Nurkic or Mamu using the MLE

My dream is trading White + pick(s) for Kessler and a role player from Utah but I have no clue if Utah is willing to trade Kessler, but he's been my dream target for a while. Wendell Carter from the Magic is another intriguing option but idk what ORL would want and also, is he even expendable.

Anyways, in that scenario they'd still need to add another guard (like maybe Ty Jerome from Memphis if they are looking to shed salary) but the frontcourt looks a lot better like that and you still keep the Jays and probably White too.
Gafford isn't the type of player the C's should be spending picks on to acquire.  They don't have spare picks to use in deals.  if they're going to trade their first rounders away, it needs to be for someone at all-star level.  Gafford isn't that.

Maybe but the pickings are slim. It's not like there's 10 elite guys and we have our pick at one sadly, there aren't too many high-level options out there and I think Giannis carries risk too.

I do think they need to add two guys to the frontcourt rotation though. Keeping Garza/Amari as a 4th big is fine but they need more. Replace Vucevic with someone and add another solid guy too. I'm still high on Queta and he'll continue to grow but they need another consistent sidekick with him.
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« Reply #305 on: May 28, 2026, 02:17:34 PM »

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My dream is trading White + pick(s) for Kessler and a role player from Utah

That would depend a lot on who the "role player from Utah" was and what the picks are.  Kessler is a risk.  Hard to tell how good he is going to be.  He might be really good, but he also might not.

If you are going to trade White, how about White + Hauser for Markkanen (no picks unless UTA sends one to BOS, they have some extras)?  It works on the trade machine, but does add about $5M to BOS salary.

Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #306 on: May 28, 2026, 02:32:35 PM »

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My dream is trading White + pick(s) for Kessler and a role player from Utah

That would depend a lot on who the "role player from Utah" was and what the picks are.  Kessler is a risk.  Hard to tell how good he is going to be.  He might be really good, but he also might not.

If you are going to trade White, how about White + Hauser for Markkanen (no picks unless UTA sends one to BOS, they have some extras)?  It works on the trade machine, but does add about $5M to BOS salary.

I would be down for any of Markannen, JJJ or Kessler so long as we don't trade Jaylen in any deal. I'd be okay with White + Hauser + pick(s) as needed, and probably a 3rd team involved to help facilitate. My preference is Kessler, I think JJJ would be my next pick then Markannen.

Utah will be interesting. At some point I think they need to at least try and compete and build something instead of endless tanking where even the players become disillusioned. White would be a nice veteran for them to grow with and they still would have a lot of potential talent and youth around them.
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Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #307 on: May 29, 2026, 10:55:21 AM »

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That trade would open us to series holes in our power forward position, with no one in sight to fill them.

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Speaking on the Dan Patrick Show, The Athletic?s Sam Amick said the rumors of Antetokounmpo to the Celtics have some serious traction, at least on Antetokounmpo?s end.

Miami is the loudest noise, you continue to hear that  yes, it appears everybody you talk to says Miami at the deadline had a deal that was close, l Amick said. So the noise is tied to Miami, but theres also some understanding that Giannis has questions about what that Miami roster would look like on the other side of the deal.

Sam Amick on Giannis Antetokounmpo's interest in the Celtics:

I think the Celtics are a pretty intriguing option in terms of being competitive, Amick added. This is something we?ve heard from Giannis?s side that the intrigue is real. The respect for Joe Mazzulla, the way that he might see that roster. Do I think it changes things? I don?t know yet. But I think it?s worth watching.
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