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Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #165 on: Yesterday at 10:42:51 AM »

Offline slamtheking

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Suns could be an interesting trade partner

Green, Allen, Maluach for Brown
Or
Booker, Brooks for Brown, White

I could see why the Suns would do the first one, but why would they do the second one?

I can't see why the Celtics would do either.

Don't worry. They won't.
agreed 2 crappy trades that don't make the C's better.

first one is basically throwing away our second best, all-NBA player for lesser parts and the second one gives away our second and third best players (who are both top 2-way players) for a high level scorer with average D at best and a defensive player with average offense at best.

Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #166 on: Yesterday at 11:09:01 AM »

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Vuc walks.

Brad adds a serviceable big (to start) and a guard to bolster the bench with the exceptions they have.

Resign PP, Queta and they shop JB but in the end they extend Brown (which is a whole other discussion to have). Walsh gets picked up.

So same team as last season with a healthy Tatum, another big and a guard...plus their top draft pick. They manage the cap for one more year.

Hopefully 2027 they splurge.

Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #167 on: Yesterday at 08:59:35 PM »

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Vuc walks.

Brad adds a serviceable big (to start) and a guard to bolster the bench with the exceptions they have.

Resign PP, Queta and they shop JB but in the end they extend Brown (which is a whole other discussion to have). Walsh gets picked up.

So same team as last season with a healthy Tatum, another big and a guard...plus their top draft pick. They manage the cap for one more year.

Hopefully 2027 they splurge.
And they lose in the 1st or 2nd round again and waste another year while their tradeable players lose value.
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Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #168 on: Yesterday at 09:38:44 PM »

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Vuc walks.

Brad adds a serviceable big (to start) and a guard to bolster the bench with the exceptions they have.

Resign PP, Queta and they shop JB but in the end they extend Brown (which is a whole other discussion to have). Walsh gets picked up.

So same team as last season with a healthy Tatum, another big and a guard...plus their top draft pick. They manage the cap for one more year.

Hopefully 2027 they splurge.

I think this is what happens too. I think they will test the market for Brown but there will not be any clear upgrades. I think they would only trade him for a true upgrade like Giannis or for some legit younger but already established players like Harper or Castle. And I do not see either of those really happening so I think they run it back with some smaller tweaks. Do not think a package focused on picks is what Brad would want.

Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #169 on: Yesterday at 09:39:32 PM »

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Vuc walks.

Brad adds a serviceable big (to start) and a guard to bolster the bench with the exceptions they have.

Resign PP, Queta and they shop JB but in the end they extend Brown (which is a whole other discussion to have). Walsh gets picked up.

So same team as last season with a healthy Tatum, another big and a guard...plus their top draft pick. They manage the cap for one more year.

Hopefully 2027 they splurge.
And they lose in the 1st or 2nd round again and waste another year while their tradeable players lose value.

Not gonna lie, I don't hate that approach though. Because right now the Spurs/Thunder and even the Knicks to me are better. The best shot the C's have is to reset the repeater tax next year, keep building with the guys, and then splurge similar to 2024 and make one last push with Jaylen + Tatum. I don't think trading Jaylen for Giannis is gonna ultimately push us beyond OKC/SAS/NY right now, they need multiple moves and probably a crafty or innovative move mixed in (similar to Stevens trading for White in 2022 and Brogdon 2023, or obviously getting BOTH KP + Jrue in 2024)

I'm currently occupied with classes lol (thankfully we're done after tomorrow!) but I'll start to think of specific names/ideas more then but personally I'd keep Jaylen and make moves around the Jays (White, Hauser, Walsh can be traded/offloaded).
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Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #170 on: Today at 05:57:38 AM »

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Vuc walks.

Brad adds a serviceable big (to start) and a guard to bolster the bench with the exceptions they have.

Resign PP, Queta and they shop JB but in the end they extend Brown (which is a whole other discussion to have). Walsh gets picked up.

So same team as last season with a healthy Tatum, another big and a guard...plus their top draft pick. They manage the cap for one more year.

Hopefully 2027 they splurge.
And they lose in the 1st or 2nd round again and waste another year while their tradeable players lose value.

Not gonna lie, I don't hate that approach though. Because right now the Spurs/Thunder and even the Knicks to me are better. The best shot the C's have is to reset the repeater tax next year, keep building with the guys, and then splurge similar to 2024 and make one last push with Jaylen + Tatum. I don't think trading Jaylen for Giannis is gonna ultimately push us beyond OKC/SAS/NY right now, they need multiple moves and probably a crafty or innovative move mixed in (similar to Stevens trading for White in 2022 and Brogdon 2023, or obviously getting BOTH KP + Jrue in 2024)

I'm currently occupied with classes lol (thankfully we're done after tomorrow!) but I'll start to think of specific names/ideas more then but personally I'd keep Jaylen and make moves around the Jays (White, Hauser, Walsh can be traded/offloaded).
The Celtics can acquire Giannis for Brown and still reset the repeater tax.   
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Re: Time for a change?
« Reply #171 on: Today at 08:42:55 AM »

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The Celtics in 24 are  the only champions since the 1980's to win a championship without a MVP or DPOY on the roster (i.e. a player on the team had won it already).  The odds of that happening again are thus very small.  So either Tatum needs to win the league MVP, White needs to win DPOY, or they need to trade for that player. 

Also, the Knicks are the only team left that doesn't have a dpoy or mvp on their roster.  The Cavs have both (harden and mobley), the Thunder have the 2 time mvp, and the spurs have the dpoy.  So that string will likely continue again this year. 
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