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Re: Looks like Giannis will be on the move
« Reply #75 on: Yesterday at 01:54:45 PM »

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The Heat can offer a blue-chip young talent in Kel?el Ware, who is third in the NBA in rebounds per 36 minutes at 14.7 (behind Mitchell Robinson and Andre Drummond) and second among all NBA centers in three-point shooting percentage at 41 percent, behind only Denver superstar Nikola Jokic. The Heat?s offer, according to a source, is widely expected to include Ware, Tyler Herro, Terry Rozier?s expiring contract, and another young player or more, as well as first-round picks in 2030 and 2032 and possibly first-round pick swaps in 2026, 2029 and 2031.

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The Heat might need to acquire another first-round pick to sweeten its offer. That can be achieved in several several ways. Among them: 1). Try to find a team that will trade a 2026 or 2027 first-round pick to Miami for Andrew Wiggins. 2). Amend the protections on the first-round pick due Charlotte. That first-rounder is lottery protected in 2027 and unprotected in 2028. If Heat waives the protections and Charlotte agrees to accept an unprotected Heat pick in 2026 or 2028, that would free up a third first-rounder to trade to the Bucks.

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So the starting lineup for Miami woul be:
Davion Mitchell, Powell, Jacquez, Bam and Giannis? That?s not a championship caliber team. If I?m Giannis, I?d force my way to the Knicks. KAT and and however many firsts it takes for Giannis. Bucks can flip KAT for more firsts.

Brunson, Hart, Bridges, OG and Giannis is a contender. Hopefully that trade doesn?t happen, though. Would be a tough team for the Celtics to beat.

I don't know what the test for a contender is, but having Giannis plus two All-Stars in Miami seems like it would be a good foundation.  Plus, they may be able to hang on to Wiggins.

Bam
Giannis
Wiggins / Jacquez
Powell
Mitchell

They'd need a potential upgrade at PG and a better bench, but that team is on the same tier that won a title for the Bucks.

It's also funny to think of that Knicks team, realizing the perfect coach for that collection of talent would be Tom Thibodeau.

Guess I?m just not that high on Bam, Wiggins, and Powell. Prime Jrue and Middleton were really good second and 3rd options.
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Re: Looks like Giannis will be on the move
« Reply #76 on: Yesterday at 02:00:43 PM »

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The Heat can offer a blue-chip young talent in Kel?el Ware, who is third in the NBA in rebounds per 36 minutes at 14.7 (behind Mitchell Robinson and Andre Drummond) and second among all NBA centers in three-point shooting percentage at 41 percent, behind only Denver superstar Nikola Jokic. The Heat?s offer, according to a source, is widely expected to include Ware, Tyler Herro, Terry Rozier?s expiring contract, and another young player or more, as well as first-round picks in 2030 and 2032 and possibly first-round pick swaps in 2026, 2029 and 2031.

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The Heat might need to acquire another first-round pick to sweeten its offer. That can be achieved in several several ways. Among them: 1). Try to find a team that will trade a 2026 or 2027 first-round pick to Miami for Andrew Wiggins. 2). Amend the protections on the first-round pick due Charlotte. That first-rounder is lottery protected in 2027 and unprotected in 2028. If Heat waives the protections and Charlotte agrees to accept an unprotected Heat pick in 2026 or 2028, that would free up a third first-rounder to trade to the Bucks.

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So the starting lineup for Miami woul be:
Davion Mitchell, Powell, Jacquez, Bam and Giannis? That?s not a championship caliber team. If I?m Giannis, I?d force my way to the Knicks. KAT and and however many firsts it takes for Giannis. Bucks can flip KAT for more firsts.

Brunson, Hart, Bridges, OG and Giannis is a contender. Hopefully that trade doesn?t happen, though. Would be a tough team for the Celtics to beat.

I don't know what the test for a contender is, but having Giannis plus two All-Stars in Miami seems like it would be a good foundation.  Plus, they may be able to hang on to Wiggins.

Bam
Giannis
Wiggins / Jacquez
Powell
Mitchell

They'd need a potential upgrade at PG and a better bench, but that team is on the same tier that won a title for the Bucks.

It's also funny to think of that Knicks team, realizing the perfect coach for that collection of talent would be Tom Thibodeau.

Guess I?m just not that high on Bam, Wiggins, and Powell. Prime Jrue and Middleton were really good second and 3rd options.

What don't you like about Bam?


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Re: Looks like Giannis will be on the move
« Reply #77 on: Yesterday at 02:25:47 PM »

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The Heat can offer a blue-chip young talent in Kel?el Ware, who is third in the NBA in rebounds per 36 minutes at 14.7 (behind Mitchell Robinson and Andre Drummond) and second among all NBA centers in three-point shooting percentage at 41 percent, behind only Denver superstar Nikola Jokic. The Heat?s offer, according to a source, is widely expected to include Ware, Tyler Herro, Terry Rozier?s expiring contract, and another young player or more, as well as first-round picks in 2030 and 2032 and possibly first-round pick swaps in 2026, 2029 and 2031.

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The Heat might need to acquire another first-round pick to sweeten its offer. That can be achieved in several several ways. Among them: 1). Try to find a team that will trade a 2026 or 2027 first-round pick to Miami for Andrew Wiggins. 2). Amend the protections on the first-round pick due Charlotte. That first-rounder is lottery protected in 2027 and unprotected in 2028. If Heat waives the protections and Charlotte agrees to accept an unprotected Heat pick in 2026 or 2028, that would free up a third first-rounder to trade to the Bucks.

Miami Herald

So the starting lineup for Miami woul be:
Davion Mitchell, Powell, Jacquez, Bam and Giannis? That?s not a championship caliber team. If I?m Giannis, I?d force my way to the Knicks. KAT and and however many firsts it takes for Giannis. Bucks can flip KAT for more firsts.

Brunson, Hart, Bridges, OG and Giannis is a contender. Hopefully that trade doesn?t happen, though. Would be a tough team for the Celtics to beat.

I don't know what the test for a contender is, but having Giannis plus two All-Stars in Miami seems like it would be a good foundation.  Plus, they may be able to hang on to Wiggins.

Bam
Giannis
Wiggins / Jacquez
Powell
Mitchell

They'd need a potential upgrade at PG and a better bench, but that team is on the same tier that won a title for the Bucks.

It's also funny to think of that Knicks team, realizing the perfect coach for that collection of talent would be Tom Thibodeau.

Guess I?m just not that high on Bam, Wiggins, and Powell. Prime Jrue and Middleton were really good second and 3rd options.

What don't you like about Bam?

Feel like Bam hasn?t improved much offensively over the last 5 years. He can?t really take over on that end. Defense is solid, but he?s undersized as a center. Heat are only a few games over .500 and they have arguably the best coach in basketball. Team just doesn?t seem good enough to contend even with Giannis, IMO.
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Re: Looks like Giannis will be on the move
« Reply #78 on: Yesterday at 02:29:32 PM »

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I really don't get the idea of Giannis and Bam. They both operate from the exact same area of the floor, and have never operated with another big like the other one.

Re: Looks like Giannis will be on the move
« Reply #79 on: Yesterday at 02:35:57 PM »

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The Heat can offer a blue-chip young talent in Kel?el Ware, who is third in the NBA in rebounds per 36 minutes at 14.7 (behind Mitchell Robinson and Andre Drummond) and second among all NBA centers in three-point shooting percentage at 41 percent, behind only Denver superstar Nikola Jokic. The Heat?s offer, according to a source, is widely expected to include Ware, Tyler Herro, Terry Rozier?s expiring contract, and another young player or more, as well as first-round picks in 2030 and 2032 and possibly first-round pick swaps in 2026, 2029 and 2031.

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The Heat might need to acquire another first-round pick to sweeten its offer. That can be achieved in several several ways. Among them: 1). Try to find a team that will trade a 2026 or 2027 first-round pick to Miami for Andrew Wiggins. 2). Amend the protections on the first-round pick due Charlotte. That first-rounder is lottery protected in 2027 and unprotected in 2028. If Heat waives the protections and Charlotte agrees to accept an unprotected Heat pick in 2026 or 2028, that would free up a third first-rounder to trade to the Bucks.

Miami Herald

So the starting lineup for Miami woul be:
Davion Mitchell, Powell, Jacquez, Bam and Giannis? That?s not a championship caliber team. If I?m Giannis, I?d force my way to the Knicks. KAT and and however many firsts it takes for Giannis. Bucks can flip KAT for more firsts.

Brunson, Hart, Bridges, OG and Giannis is a contender. Hopefully that trade doesn?t happen, though. Would be a tough team for the Celtics to beat.

I don't know what the test for a contender is, but having Giannis plus two All-Stars in Miami seems like it would be a good foundation.  Plus, they may be able to hang on to Wiggins.

Bam
Giannis
Wiggins / Jacquez
Powell
Mitchell

They'd need a potential upgrade at PG and a better bench, but that team is on the same tier that won a title for the Bucks.

It's also funny to think of that Knicks team, realizing the perfect coach for that collection of talent would be Tom Thibodeau.

Davion Mitchell has been doing a good job for them. I have been surprised by how well he has played since joining Miami but he continues to maintain his level player.

* One of the top defensive PGs in the league.

* Offensively. A solid ball-handler. Low mistake player on offense. Only 1.7 turnovers against 7.2 assists per game. Over a 4:1 AST:TOV ratio. Moves the ball. Keeps everyone involved. Keeps his teammates happy. A reluctant shooter but is making the shots he takes at 47% FG 40% 3PT. 9ppg in just under 30mpg.

I think you can win with Davion Mitchell as your starting PG. Team orientated. Top defender.

Re: Looks like Giannis will be on the move
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Seeing lot of Julius Randle & Naz Reid plus picks for Giannis
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PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Looks like Giannis will be on the move
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Seeing lot of Julius Randle & Naz Reid plus picks for Giannis
that is a horrid trade for Milwaukee
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Seeing lot of Julius Randle & Naz Reid plus picks for Giannis

Sheeesh might as well ask them if they want Derrick White, Anfernee Simons, and picks for Giannis


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Re: Looks like Giannis will be on the move
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MIL +120
CHI +300
GS +400
MIN +700
MIA +700
CLE +1200
NY +1400
TO +2500

Bunch of slop after that.  Celtics are +10000


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Re: Looks like Giannis will be on the move
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Current Giannis DK odds for "Next Regular Season Minute Played After Trade Deadline to be for Which NBA Team?"

MIL +120
CHI +300
GS +400
MIN +700
MIA +700
CLE +1200
NY +1400
TO +2500

Bunch of slop after that.  Celtics are +10000

Not really sure why Giannis would want Chicago. I guess they could in theory though offer a much better package than those other teams (MIA, GSW, MIN).

My prediction is Miami or he stays put this season. Interesting to note, an arbitrator ruled Rozier's contract can be "active", so it could be used in trades/transactions. Obviously MIA would have to offer up more in young players, but that's a significant salary-matching piece potentially.

Herro, Ware, Jacquez, Rozier (salary) + picks works.
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« Reply #85 on: Yesterday at 08:56:52 PM »

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Seeing lot of Julius Randle & Naz Reid plus picks for Giannis

Well they'd have Turner, Portis, Randle, and Reid with no guards (I am not impressed with Rollins). How about they flip Reid to us for Simons?

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« Reply #86 on: Yesterday at 09:41:57 PM »

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Seeing lot of Julius Randle & Naz Reid plus picks for Giannis

Worse than Doncic for Davis and Christie.

Re: Looks like Giannis will be on the move
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Seeing lot of Julius Randle & Naz Reid plus picks for Giannis

Well they'd have Turner, Portis, Randle, and Reid with no guards (I am not impressed with Rollins). How about they flip Reid to us for Simons?

Would love that idea, and I think he'd fit well within our style of play well and is on the Jays' timeline. He's also reasonable long-term money for a starting level center at $25M, which Milwaukee likely doesn't want either. Would something like this framework work:

Milwaukee: Randle, Simons, Minnesota Unprotected 2032 1st, Protected 2030 1st, Any Other Minnesota 2nd Rounders They Want, and then probably a Boston pick (2026 1st Round Pick and/or the NOLA 2nd Round Pick We Own?)

Minnesota: Giannis

Boston: Reid, Trent Jr.

That'd leave us with the following roster to build:

PG: PP/Trent Jr.
SG: White/Hugo/Scheierman
SF: Brown/Walsh/Minott
PF: Tatum/Hauser/Garza
C: Reid/Queta

I like it. Our guard rotation is thin, but that can be bolstered in the buyout market or through other minor trades or signings, even if in the offseason. The question is whether this is enough for Milwaukee to deal him now rather than wait for the offseason when more picks will be available? Not sure about that. Think you'd need Giannis to demand to go there and there not be other major offers on the table.
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Re: Looks like Giannis will be on the move
« Reply #88 on: Today at 09:39:08 AM »

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I think the Cavs are  real player in this based in all of their rumored moves.  Trade Garland for Harden and maybe a couple of 2nds.  Use those 2nds and dump Ball off to Hornets.  Make 1 other move reducing about 3 million to get below the 2nd apron (Wade makes sense) and then acquire Giannis for Mobley, Tyson, Strus, and 2 1st and maybe a swap or 2.

New team - Mitchell, Harden, Merrill, Giannis, Allen with Shroder, Ellis, Proctor, Porter, Nance, Bryant, Tomlin

That team is a massive favorite in East and may very well be the favorite to win the whole thing. 
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Seeing lot of Julius Randle & Naz Reid plus picks for Giannis

Well they'd have Turner, Portis, Randle, and Reid with no guards (I am not impressed with Rollins). How about they flip Reid to us for Simons?

Would love that idea, and I think he'd fit well within our style of play well and is on the Jays' timeline. He's also reasonable long-term money for a starting level center at $25M, which Milwaukee likely doesn't want either. Would something like this framework work:

Milwaukee: Randle, Simons, Minnesota Unprotected 2032 1st, Protected 2030 1st, Any Other Minnesota 2nd Rounders They Want, and then probably a Boston pick (2026 1st Round Pick and/or the NOLA 2nd Round Pick We Own?)

Minnesota: Giannis

Boston: Reid, Trent Jr.

That'd leave us with the following roster to build:

PG: PP/Trent Jr.
SG: White/Hugo/Scheierman
SF: Brown/Walsh/Minott
PF: Tatum/Hauser/Garza
C: Reid/Queta

I like it. Our guard rotation is thin, but that can be bolstered in the buyout market or through other minor trades or signings, even if in the offseason. The question is whether this is enough for Milwaukee to deal him now rather than wait for the offseason when more picks will be available? Not sure about that. Think you'd need Giannis to demand to go there and there not be other major offers on the table.
Minny makes out like a bandit and Mil and Boston don't.

No way Reid and Trent are worth Simons and a first.  Keep the first rounder.  Also, if Minn is getting Giannis for that measly package, they need to cough up at least 2 more firsts and someone more enticing than Randle