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Re: Patriots 2025-26 Season
« Reply #945 on: Yesterday at 09:08:15 PM »

Offline Moranis

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OL needs a complete overhaul. We knew this before the playoffs.

Wrs, LBs and kickers need upgrading. Feel they are below average units.

DL needs better edge rushers. One sack on Sam Darnold is crazy.

Maye and the secondary are the only things I'm sold on.

You?re sold on Maye even though he didn?t have any good games in the playoffs? He was solid in the regular season, but the competition wasn?t great. Next year will be telling, IMO.

While the quality of teams in the NFL varies, the saying "any given Sunday" is used because every NFL team has a chance to win every Sunday.  Drake Maye played against NFL teams with NFL athletes all season and won 17 out of 21 times. 

The defenses he faced in the playoffs were consistently strong and his offensive line was bad.  That's a disastrous combination. Nonetheless the team won 3 playoff games.  Yes, his performance was not on par with the regular season, but he did what he needed to do to make it to a Super Bowl in his second season.  I think it's more likely he learns from this experience and gets better for it than he was traumatized and will be developmentally stuck.  And since none of us knows for sure what will happen, I guess I just prefer to think he'll be good moving forward than he'll be bad.

I am MUCH more sold on the idea that Maye is at the start, barring injury, of a very successful career than I am sold on the idea that he will forever wilt under pressure.  Show me the other second year QBs in the league today who have won 3 playoff games.  And how many have been to the Super Bowl? Just having had this experience puts him ahead of other young, talented QBs in the league.

I am WAY more concerned about building an offensive line that can protect and run block.  Do that, add a top flight receiver, and I think Pats will be in the mix for SB61.   And Drake will continue to develop, which is the grace afforded every other 23 year old QB.

Drake didn?t win the playoff games, though. The defense and run game did. Darnold isn?t a great QB, but he won that game against the Rams. 3 TDs/356 yards. Drake had zero good games in the postseason. Hopefully he can learn from this and perform better in the postseason. We shall see..
Maye finished 2nd in MVP voting.  You don't just luck into that.

He had a passer rating over 100 in a playoff game this year (with 3 passing TD's in that game) and was better than Darnold in many respects in the SB (better passer rating, nearly 300 yards, 2 TD).  All his games weren't like the Denver game (which mind you was in a snow storm against an elite defense).
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Re: Patriots 2025-26 Season
« Reply #946 on: Yesterday at 09:12:44 PM »

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OL needs a complete overhaul. We knew this before the playoffs.

Wrs, LBs and kickers need upgrading. Feel they are below average units.

DL needs better edge rushers. One sack on Sam Darnold is crazy.

Maye and the secondary are the only things I'm sold on.

You?re sold on Maye even though he didn?t have any good games in the playoffs? He was solid in the regular season, but the competition wasn?t great. Next year will be telling, IMO.

While the quality of teams in the NFL varies, the saying "any given Sunday" is used because every NFL team has a chance to win every Sunday.  Drake Maye played against NFL teams with NFL athletes all season and won 17 out of 21 times. 

The defenses he faced in the playoffs were consistently strong and his offensive line was bad.  That's a disastrous combination. Nonetheless the team won 3 playoff games.  Yes, his performance was not on par with the regular season, but he did what he needed to do to make it to a Super Bowl in his second season.  I think it's more likely he learns from this experience and gets better for it than he was traumatized and will be developmentally stuck.  And since none of us knows for sure what will happen, I guess I just prefer to think he'll be good moving forward than he'll be bad.

I am MUCH more sold on the idea that Maye is at the start, barring injury, of a very successful career than I am sold on the idea that he will forever wilt under pressure.  Show me the other second year QBs in the league today who have won 3 playoff games.  And how many have been to the Super Bowl? Just having had this experience puts him ahead of other young, talented QBs in the league.

I am WAY more concerned about building an offensive line that can protect and run block.  Do that, add a top flight receiver, and I think Pats will be in the mix for SB61.   And Drake will continue to develop, which is the grace afforded every other 23 year old QB.

Drake didn?t win the playoff games, though. The defense and run game did. Darnold isn?t a great QB, but he won that game against the Rams. 3 TDs/356 yards. Drake had zero good games in the postseason. Hopefully he can learn from this and perform better in the postseason. We shall see..

Maye played the most important position on the field in three playoff wins.  He participated in the victories just as Brady did in 2001. This doesn?t mean he?ll be anything close to Brady as his career unfolds but likewise, 4 subpar games at 23 where he contributed to victories in 3 despite the porous line in front of him doesn?t prove him unworthy of believing in him.  I?d bet on him to play at a high level next year. I guess you?d bet against that.  Neither of us can know, so yes we?ll see.

Re: Patriots 2025-26 Season
« Reply #947 on: Yesterday at 09:44:55 PM »

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OL needs a complete overhaul. We knew this before the playoffs.

Wrs, LBs and kickers need upgrading. Feel they are below average units.

DL needs better edge rushers. One sack on Sam Darnold is crazy.

Maye and the secondary are the only things I'm sold on.

You?re sold on Maye even though he didn?t have any good games in the playoffs? He was solid in the regular season, but the competition wasn?t great. Next year will be telling, IMO.

While the quality of teams in the NFL varies, the saying "any given Sunday" is used because every NFL team has a chance to win every Sunday.  Drake Maye played against NFL teams with NFL athletes all season and won 17 out of 21 times. 

The defenses he faced in the playoffs were consistently strong and his offensive line was bad.  That's a disastrous combination. Nonetheless the team won 3 playoff games.  Yes, his performance was not on par with the regular season, but he did what he needed to do to make it to a Super Bowl in his second season.  I think it's more likely he learns from this experience and gets better for it than he was traumatized and will be developmentally stuck.  And since none of us knows for sure what will happen, I guess I just prefer to think he'll be good moving forward than he'll be bad.

I am MUCH more sold on the idea that Maye is at the start, barring injury, of a very successful career than I am sold on the idea that he will forever wilt under pressure.  Show me the other second year QBs in the league today who have won 3 playoff games.  And how many have been to the Super Bowl? Just having had this experience puts him ahead of other young, talented QBs in the league.

I am WAY more concerned about building an offensive line that can protect and run block.  Do that, add a top flight receiver, and I think Pats will be in the mix for SB61.   And Drake will continue to develop, which is the grace afforded every other 23 year old QB.

Drake didn?t win the playoff games, though. The defense and run game did. Darnold isn?t a great QB, but he won that game against the Rams. 3 TDs/356 yards. Drake had zero good games in the postseason. Hopefully he can learn from this and perform better in the postseason. We shall see..
Maye finished 2nd in MVP voting.  You don't just luck into that.

He had a passer rating over 100 in a playoff game this year (with 3 passing TD's in that game) and was better than Darnold in many respects in the SB (better passer rating, nearly 300 yards, 2 TD).  All his games weren't like the Denver game (which mind you was in a snow storm against an elite defense).

Drake was good in the regular season and bad in the playoffs. If you think that he was better than Darnold in the SB, I will have what you are having. Maye had a QBR of 16. It was probably the worst performance I?ve seen in a SB.
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Re: Patriots 2025-26 Season
« Reply #948 on: Yesterday at 09:47:38 PM »

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Quoting Nick from the now locked Ime thread:
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Patriots 2025-26 Season
« Reply #949 on: Yesterday at 10:28:13 PM »

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I'm not worried about Maye. He's 23 years old and it was his second season. And even his rookie year was muddled with a later start due to Brissett starting, and coaches like Mayo on the staff.

I'd like to think it's a wake up call for him though, and also the front office + ownership that they need to continue building. The roster probably overachieved and benefitted from an easy schedule. Doesn't mean they can't get back to the SB, but if they think they can just status quo it, it won't work even with Maye.

Also Maye did go up against 4 of the Top-6 defenses in the entire NFL on this postseason run. Kind of tough luck, although some of it was offset by Nix being hurt and Stroud just being horrific.

For me the BIG concern is still O-Line, especially LT. Campbell was outclassed in the postseason and I don't think much will change sadly on that end. He's just not built to last long term there against these young/fierce pass rushers. Wilson can be our long term center. Campbell I think can be an excellent left guard. But they need an LT and some more depth on that line. Even Brady and Mahomes struggle in the playoffs with poor O-Line play and Maye was sacked like 21 times this postseason, even more than Burrow 4 years ago (yikes)
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Re: Patriots 2025-26 Season
« Reply #950 on: Yesterday at 10:31:08 PM »

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Can we get a new OC because I think the game has passed by Josh McDaniels. That was some atrocious playcalling last night, combined with a myriad of poor OL protection and lack of offensive threats. Super conservative the first three periods of the game. The offense only started getting into a rhythm in the 4th quarter, and silly me, believing the Pats still had a chance until that INT ball.

This offseason:
-need to upgrade the OL
-pick up a hot WR or TE
-get a new punter because Baringer sucks
-get more pass rushers


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