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Great picks! Love the retro team, it?s the one true one we have.

I?m on the clock and just have to do a final review before picking
CelticsBlog 2005-25 Fantasy Draft Commish, OKC Thunder:
PG: SGA (24-25, MVP, 32 MPG)
SG: Klay Thompson (14-15, 11th in MVP, 30 MPG)
SF: Kevin Durant (13-14, MVP, 39 MPG)
PF: ?
C: Rudy Gobert (18-19, DPOY, 11th in MVP, 32MPG)
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With the 27th pick of the 2025 draft, the OKc Thunder select

A guy that the sim will love but might polarize the voting

Perhaps the best combo in the entire draft pool of low usage / high efficiency, vertical spacing, defense, offensive and defensive rebounding, and winning (since Wilt is his only statistical peer)

The best defensive player since 1990 according to many metrics

14+ win shares in this season, which is a top 170 season of all time among all NBA seasons ever (only 3 eligible undrafted guys ahead of him and not beating him because of defense, rebounding, efficiency or vertical spacing which I need

He won DPOY and was 11th in MVP voting

RUDY TOOTY GOBERT!
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CelticsBlog 2005-25 Fantasy Draft Commish, OKC Thunder:
PG: SGA (24-25, MVP, 32 MPG)
SG: Klay Thompson (14-15, 11th in MVP, 30 MPG)
SF: Kevin Durant (13-14, MVP, 39 MPG)
PF: ?
C: Rudy Gobert (18-19, DPOY, 11th in MVP, 32MPG)
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The Milwaukee Bucks select Draymond Green


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Okay, here it comes:

With the 29th pick in the draft the Toronto Raptors select: Shawn Marion!

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And with the 30th pick in the draft the Toronto Raptors select: Marc Gasol!

Also welcome back old friend who was a vital underrated acquisition in 2019.

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25 CsBlog Fantasy Draft Team List:

*Positions are fluid as rosters fill out, this is just an approximation for now*


Moranis (Cavs) -

PG: Luka Doncic
SG:
SF: Lebron James (MVP)
PF:
C: Shaquille ONeal (prior MVP)


CFF (Magic) -

PG: CP3
SG:
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Tim Duncan (prior MVP)
C:


Who (Knicks) -

PG: Steve Nash (MVP)
SG:
SF:
PF: Kevin Garnett (prior MVP, DPOY)
C: Joel Embiid (MVP)


Jvalin (Pacers) -

PG:
SG: PG13
SF: Jayson Tatum
PF:
C: Nikola Jokic (MVP)


Snively (Bulls) -

PG: Chauncey Billups
SG: Kobe Bryant (MVP)
SF:
PF: Pau Gasol
C: Yao Ming
 

Roy (Celtics) -

PG: Steph Curry (MVP)
SG:
SF:
PF: Giannis Antetokounmpo (MVP)
C:


SAB (Thunder) -

PG: SGA (MVP)
SG: Kevin Durant (MVP)
SF:
PF:
C: Rudy Gobert (DPOY)

Dons (Bucks) -

PG:
SG:
SF: Draymond Green (DPOY)
PF: Dirk Nowitzki (MVP)
C: Dwight Howard

RodyTur10 (Raptors) -

PG: Dwayne Wade
SG: Kawhi Leonard
SF: Shawn Marion
PF:
C: Marc Gasol

Timdawgg (76ers) -

PG:
SG: James Harden (MVP)
SF:
PF: Anthony Davis
C:


That completes the draft for the day. See you tomorrow!
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CelticsBlog 2005-25 Fantasy Draft Commish, OKC Thunder:
PG: SGA (24-25, MVP, 32 MPG)
SG: Klay Thompson (14-15, 11th in MVP, 30 MPG)
SF: Kevin Durant (13-14, MVP, 39 MPG)
PF: ?
C: Rudy Gobert (18-19, DPOY, 11th in MVP, 32MPG)
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I debated between Shaq and Embiid.  I ultimately decided on the guy that was more efficient.
Shaq more efficient???  Don't think so.  Shaq just has a much more limited offensive skillset.  Comparing Shaq's 2004/5 season with Embiid's MVP season. 

                0-3     3-10     10-16    16-3P      3P          FT
Shaq        74.8     43.9     19.6        0.0       N/A        46.1
Embiid      80.7     43.5     51.4       48.9     33.0        85.7

Shaq and Embiid were similar from 3-10 feet but otherwise Embiid was much better.  Of course, the sledgehammer to the comparison is free throw shooting.  No one who shoots free throws that dismally should be called efficient. 

As for the overall comparison, Embiid is the significantly better defender. 

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I debated between Shaq and Embiid.  I ultimately decided on the guy that was more efficient.
Shaq more efficient???  Don't think so.  Shaq just has a much more limited offensive skillset.  Comparing Shaq's 2004/5 season with Embiid's MVP season. 

                0-3     3-10     10-16    16-3P      3P          FT
Shaq        74.8     43.9     19.6        0.0       N/A        46.1
Embiid      80.7     43.5     51.4       48.9     33.0        85.7

Shaq and Embiid were similar from 3-10 feet but otherwise Embiid was much better.  Of course, the sledgehammer to the comparison is free throw shooting.  No one who shoots free throws that dismally should be called efficient. 

As for the overall comparison, Embiid is the significantly better defender.
Shaq was a better defender than Embiid, by virtually every metric.  More DWS, more blocks per game and a higher BLK%, etc.   Embiid definitely has way more offensive range, but in some respects that hurts his game.  If he spent more time inside, he'd score a lot more and would better use his size.  A lot of the modern players spread the floor too much instead of just utilizing their strength.  Embiid, with his size, should play like Shaq.  He'd dominant the league.  All the spreading the floor hurts his game.  33% on 3 attempts a game is just bad.  He doesn't need to do that.  Stay inside, put the other team in foul trouble, and hit at a great percentage.  Not sure it would help his health, but running all of the floor and handling the ball that much can't help it either.  He only played 66 games in his MVP season.  He needs to play more.  Work on his body and stay inside.  That is how he'd dominate and how the Sixers would win more games.
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My guess is that Mo took Shaq over Embiid because Shaq rates higher in WhatIfSports' algorithm.

To me, it's less fun and meaningful to build teams by going down a list.


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My guess is that Mo took Shaq over Embiid because Shaq rates higher in WhatIfSports' algorithm.

To me, it's less fun and meaningful to build teams by going down a list.

Yeah, I?m trying to walk a fine line. Not take a bad sim guy and to value the sim, but value real life more
CelticsBlog 2005-25 Fantasy Draft Commish, OKC Thunder:
PG: SGA (24-25, MVP, 32 MPG)
SG: Klay Thompson (14-15, 11th in MVP, 30 MPG)
SF: Kevin Durant (13-14, MVP, 39 MPG)
PF: ?
C: Rudy Gobert (18-19, DPOY, 11th in MVP, 32MPG)
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I debated between Shaq and Embiid.  I ultimately decided on the guy that was more efficient.
Shaq more efficient???  Don't think so.  Shaq just has a much more limited offensive skillset.  Comparing Shaq's 2004/5 season with Embiid's MVP season. 

                0-3     3-10     10-16    16-3P      3P          FT
Shaq        74.8     43.9     19.6        0.0       N/A        46.1
Embiid      80.7     43.5     51.4       48.9     33.0        85.7

Shaq and Embiid were similar from 3-10 feet but otherwise Embiid was much better.  Of course, the sledgehammer to the comparison is free throw shooting.  No one who shoots free throws that dismally should be called efficient. 

As for the overall comparison, Embiid is the significantly better defender.
Shaq was a better defender than Embiid, by virtually every metric.  More DWS, more blocks per game and a higher BLK%, etc.   Embiid definitely has way more offensive range, but in some respects that hurts his game.  If he spent more time inside, he'd score a lot more and would better use his size.  A lot of the modern players spread the floor too much instead of just utilizing their strength.  Embiid, with his size, should play like Shaq.  He'd dominant the league.  All the spreading the floor hurts his game.  33% on 3 attempts a game is just bad.  He doesn't need to do that.  Stay inside, put the other team in foul trouble, and hit at a great percentage.  Not sure it would help his health, but running all of the floor and handling the ball that much can't help it either.  He only played 66 games in his MVP season.  He needs to play more.  Work on his body and stay inside.  That is how he'd dominate and how the Sixers would win more games.
Embiid won the MVP. Not sure what else he should have done to be considered a dominant player. Problem is his injury history, not his shooting range.

Embiid's opponents are forced to contest shots on the perimeter. This means a) he spaces the floor for his teammates b) the Sixers can attack the switches generated by Embiid's picks on the perimeter, c) he generates better looks for himself in the paint cause opposing defenders cannot simply drop back to protect the rim. Personally, I consider peak Embiid (when healthy) a better player than Miami Shaq.

Love the Embiid-KG fit on D. Embiid drops. KG roams. They would both excel in their roles. Not overly excited by the Nash-Embiid combo tbh: a) Nash is at his best on the open court, whereas Embiid is effective primarily in the half court. b) Nash excels spamming the PnR. Embiid is more of an iso scorer rather than a mobile PnR partner for Nash. c) Embiid is effective only in a drop scheme meaning he needs a legit POA defender to provide cover for him in the PnR. That's definitely not Nash.

Fortunately for Who, he got an elite roll man and help defender in KG. When it comes to help D in particular, I think only Giannis is in the same tier with KG. It seems like they are everywhere at the same time thanks to their elite size and athleticism. Even so, I'd argue the Embiid-Nash defensive combo can be exploited by PnR-heavy, perimeter-oriented offenses, especially if KG's opponent is a reliable 3pt shooter.

For the record, I'll likely have an even bigger defensive issue trying to hide Jokic in the PnR. I tend to value offense over defense. Not sure whether I wanna settle for a defensive specialist to provide adequate cover for Jokic. I guess it depends on who's left on the board by the time I make my picks.
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My guess is that Mo took Shaq over Embiid because Shaq rates higher in WhatIfSports' algorithm.

To me, it's less fun and meaningful to build teams by going down a list.
I actually didn't pay attention to that.  And actually I just looked Shaq in 04/05 is 7.1 million while Embiid in 22/23 was 7.3, so Embiid actually rates a little higher at the sim.  I do like Shaq more as a person and player, so that probably had some effect, but Shaq was absolutely a better defender than Embiid.  Embiid is not a great defender, Shaq absolutely was.  And Shaq is better equipped to guard some of the bigger guys from the past than Embiid is (and it isn't like Embiid can guard Jokic).  That is why I went with him.  On offense, there is no question Embiid has more range, but I don't need my center playing at the 3 point line.  I'd rather have them in the post getting opposing teams into foul trouble.  And while Shaq is a terrible FT shooter, his FTr that season was .699, meaning 7 out of every 10 shots he was fouled and he scored 60.1% of his FGA (so many of those fouls were and 1 situations). 
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25 minutes to go until draft officially starts- we can begin anytime once Timdawgg arrives!
CelticsBlog 2005-25 Fantasy Draft Commish, OKC Thunder:
PG: SGA (24-25, MVP, 32 MPG)
SG: Klay Thompson (14-15, 11th in MVP, 30 MPG)
SF: Kevin Durant (13-14, MVP, 39 MPG)
PF: ?
C: Rudy Gobert (18-19, DPOY, 11th in MVP, 32MPG)
Bench:

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I know I may be taking these two too early but building a team these would be two of my favorite guys to play with period.   I want a true point guard distributor that also is very good on the defensive side of the ball.  Then I also want the ultimate glue guy and one of the best help defenders to play the game.

 With that being said the Philadelphia 76ers select Rajon Rondo and AK 47 Andrei Kirilenko
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SG: James Harden '18-'19
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PF: Anthony Davis '17-'18
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