RE-Sign Porzingis

[soulman]

Can we RE-Sign Porzingis, let, say 3 years 45mil to save some money? That would be a good idea if you ask me.

[tazzmaniac]

Can we RE-Sign Porzingis, let, say 3 years 45mil to save some money? That would be a good idea if you ask me.

It wouldn't help financially for next season but Porzingis could be extended for the following seasons.  However I very much doubt KP would except 3yr/45M.  As a free agent, he'd probably get offered more than that even if he has another injury filled season. 

[Vermont Green]

I am not sure the market for Porzingis will be higher than that.  He probably won't extend this off season, maybe.  Not enough teams have money to spend anymore with the new rules.  Contenders that may be interested in Porzingis are is similar situation as us.  No real options to sign a guy like Porzingis.

[soulman]

I think we did something similar with Horford. It would be helpful to do the same with Porzingis.

[jambr380]

I am not sure the market for Porzingis will be higher than that.  He probably won't extend this off season, maybe.  Not enough teams have money to spend anymore with the new rules.  Contenders that may be interested in Porzingis are is similar situation as us.  No real options to sign a guy like Porzingis.

Yeah, $15M is around the full non-taxpayers MLE. I suppose some team could sign him to a big contract if they have space, but good teams won't have space and bad teams won't want to sign a majorly injury prone 7'2" guy in his 30s to big money

He has to make it through the offseason first without getting traded, but funny enough, we might be one of the few teams who would sign him to the full MLE next offseason (if we do trade him) if we keep cutting costs and get below the tax.

[Roy H.]

I'd love to see the team keep Zinger.  I would be surprised, because I think that ownership may utilize this off-season to start the process of getting out of the repeater tax, but a team built around Tatum / Brown / KP / White / Pritchard is a contender.

It's funny, before the playoffs I had done some math and had said that we could keep the team together and stay below the tax in 2027 if KP resigned for something like $19 million.  A lot of folks thought that was unrealistic.  Now, that figure is more plausible (although I don't think we keep the team together next season).

[Phantom255x]

Yeah I'd be pretty surprised if some team offered him a deal worth 15M+ AAV given his durability issues, and the cap situations of most teams as well. I guess maybe a bad team can give him a loaded 1-2 year deal and try to flip him for assets at a deadline, but that's about it

They still need to add another PF/C, but I'm okay keeping KP beyond 2026 if he comes back on a reasonable deal. KP/Draft or FA/Kornet/Queta, not bad. Especially if Queta can take a bit of a leap.

[keevsnick]

I don't really see KP taking a 33% pay cut. Sure, he's often injured, but 19 million won't be that much less than the non tax MLE in 226-27 which is projected to start at 14.8 million. But also, the caps gone up a lot since he last signed an extension. When he signed his extension in the summer of 2023 starting at 29.3 million for the 24-25 season that was 20.8% of the 140 million dollar cap. If he signed a 19 million dollar extension starting in 26-27 that would be only 11.2% of the projected 169 million dollar cap that year.

It just doesn't seem that likely to me.

[keevsnick]

Yeah I'd be pretty surprised if some team offered him a deal worth 15M+ AAV given his durability issues, and the cap situations of most teams as well. I guess maybe a bad team can give him a loaded 1-2 year deal and try to flip him for assets at a deadline, but that's about it

They still need to add another PF/C, but I'm okay keeping KP beyond 2026 if he comes back on a reasonable deal. KP/Draft or FA/Kornet/Queta, not bad. Especially if Queta can take a bit of a leap.

By the time Porzingis is a free agent in the summer of 26, 15M will be the starting point of the non tax mid level (14.8M). I can easily see somebody offering him that, at the very least.

[Vermont Green]

That is the point.  $15M or so is probably the market. I think he will want to stay, even for a little less money. I don?t see where a big offer come from. 

[keevsnick]

That is the point.  $15M or so is probably the market. I think he will want to stay, even for a little less money. I don?t see where a big offer come from.

I'd be surprised if his next contract starts at less than 25 million. I get he's often injured, but 25 million is pretty much just average starting level player salary at this point. Unless he has some catastrophic injury next year that calls into question his availability going forward he's not a mid-level guy.

[kraidstar]

That is the point.  $15M or so is probably the market. I think he will want to stay, even for a little less money. I don?t see where a big offer come from.

I'd be surprised if his next contract starts at less than 25 million. I get he's often injured, but 25 million is pretty much just average starting level player salary at this point. Unless he has some catastrophic injury next year that calls into question his availability going forward he's not a mid-level guy.

What team do you think pays him that?

[DefenseWinsChamps]

That is the point.  $15M or so is probably the market. I think he will want to stay, even for a little less money. I don?t see where a big offer come from.

I'd be surprised if his next contract starts at less than 25 million. I get he's often injured, but 25 million is pretty much just average starting level player salary at this point. Unless he has some catastrophic injury next year that calls into question his availability going forward he's not a mid-level guy.

What team do you think pays him that?

I think the 4 year contract that the Bucks signed Brooke Lopez to is a pretty good comp. Lopez might have been a bit healthier, but Zinger was a bit more productive on-court.

Somewhere around the MLE for 4 years is a good price for him. I'm hoping he'd give us a discount for a long-term deal though.

[keevsnick]

Too far away to predict, but somebody will. KP may be injured often, but he's also one of the few true stretch big men in the game. This offseason only one team is projected to have max space, but in 2026 several teams are. 25 million is not even 15% of the cap in 2026. 

Too put it another way: When the C's gave him an extension in 2023 he was also well known as an often-injured player, he still got a 2 year extension worth 21% of the cap.

[tazzmaniac]

Too far away to predict, but somebody will. KP may be injured often, but he's also one of the few true stretch big men in the game. This offseason only one team is projected to have max space, but in 2026 several teams are. 25 million is not even 15% of the cap in 2026. 

Too put it another way: When the C's gave him an extension in 2023 he was also well known as an often-injured player, he still got a 2 year extension worth 21% of the cap.

He played 68 and 65 games in the two seasons prior to signing with the Celts and since he played for Washington, he didn't have to worry about missing playoff games.  That was the most games he played since his 1st two seasons.  If he has another season like last year, it will certainly hurt him in free agency.  Most of the teams you mention having cap space are bad teams so probably won't be interested in KP.  Maybe someone goes as high as 2yrs/50M with the 2nd year team option.  Problem is you have to have pay for 2 solid backups.