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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #3645 on: April 30, 2025, 11:47:06 AM »

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Interesting Harden stats in a close series

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Stats in 2-2 Series Tie

Total 11 series (including DEN through 5 games in 2025)

1-4 games 40
5-7 games 26

1-4 games: shooting splits .452/.364/.889
5-7 games: shooting splits .403/.270/.805

1-4 games: stats 5.7reb 6.9ast 1.4stl 0.6blk 3.0tov 25.3pts
5-7 games: stats 5.7reb 6.8ast 1.8stl 0.5blk 4.0tov 18.8pts

1-4 games: plus/minus +0.7
5-7 games: plus/minus -3.3

That is a massive drop-off in his shooting numbers and scoring totals. The +/- is scary bad as well.

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #3646 on: April 30, 2025, 01:26:40 PM »

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Interesting Harden stats in a close series

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Stats in 2-2 Series Tie

Total 11 series (including DEN through 5 games in 2025)

1-4 games 40
5-7 games 26

1-4 games: shooting splits .452/.364/.889
5-7 games: shooting splits .403/.270/.805

1-4 games: stats 5.7reb 6.9ast 1.4stl 0.6blk 3.0tov 25.3pts
5-7 games: stats 5.7reb 6.8ast 1.8stl 0.5blk 4.0tov 18.8pts

1-4 games: plus/minus +0.7
5-7 games: plus/minus -3.3

That is a massive drop-off in his shooting numbers and scoring totals. The +/- is scary bad as well.

It's really his post-Houston days that are doing most of the heavy lifting here. Here's the 11 series:

2010, OKC vs LAL 1st round, L.  8.3ppg vs 6.5ppg, 39% FG% vs 39%, +8 vs -4

2011, OKC vs MEM, 2nd round W. 14.3ppg vs 13.3ppg, 44% FG% vs 54%, -8 vs +48

2012, OKC vs SAS, WCF, W. 18.8 ppg vs 18ppg, 49% FG% vs 50% FG%, +23 vs +33

2017, HOU vs SAS, 2nd round, L. 26ppg vs 21.5ppg, 43% FG% vs 37% FG%, +19 vs -34

2019, HOU vs GSW, 2nd round, L. 35.8ppg vs. 33ppg, 42% FG% vs. 51% FG%, -3 vs. -10

2020, HOU vs OKC, 1st round, W. 32ppg vs. 26.7ppg, 44% FG% vs. 43% FG%, +17 vs.+43

2021, BRK vs MIL, 2nd round, L. 0ppg vs. 14.3ppg, 0% FG% vs. 31% FG%, -2 vs. -19 *Note got injured 43 seconds into Game 1, returned Game 5.

2022, PHI vs MIA, 2nd round, L. 21ppg vs. 12.5ppg, 40% FG% vs. 41% FG%, +17 vs. -45

2023, PHI vs BOS, 2nd round, L. 28.8ppg vs. 13ppg, 47% FG% vs. 31% FG%, -31 vs. -30

2024, LAC vs DAL, 1st round, L. 26ppg vs. 11.5ppg, 54% FG% vs. 25% FG%, -17 vs. -31

2025, LAC vs DEN, 1st round, ?. 21.3ppg vs. 11ppg, 45% FG% vs. 33% FG%, +20 vs. -16

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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #3647 on: April 30, 2025, 05:28:05 PM »

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Interesting Harden stats in a close series

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Stats in 2-2 Series Tie

Total 11 series (including DEN through 5 games in 2025)

1-4 games 40
5-7 games 26

1-4 games: shooting splits .452/.364/.889
5-7 games: shooting splits .403/.270/.805

1-4 games: stats 5.7reb 6.9ast 1.4stl 0.6blk 3.0tov 25.3pts
5-7 games: stats 5.7reb 6.8ast 1.8stl 0.5blk 4.0tov 18.8pts

1-4 games: plus/minus +0.7
5-7 games: plus/minus -3.3

That is a massive drop-off in his shooting numbers and scoring totals. The +/- is scary bad as well.

It's really his post-Houston days that are doing most of the heavy lifting here. Here's the 11 series:

2010, OKC vs LAL 1st round, L.  8.3ppg vs 6.5ppg, 39% FG% vs 39%, +8 vs -4

2011, OKC vs MEM, 2nd round W. 14.3ppg vs 13.3ppg, 44% FG% vs 54%, -8 vs +48

2012, OKC vs SAS, WCF, W. 18.8 ppg vs 18ppg, 49% FG% vs 50% FG%, +23 vs +33

2017, HOU vs SAS, 2nd round, L. 26ppg vs 21.5ppg, 43% FG% vs 37% FG%, +19 vs -34

2019, HOU vs GSW, 2nd round, L. 35.8ppg vs. 33ppg, 42% FG% vs. 51% FG%, -3 vs. -10

2020, HOU vs OKC, 1st round, W. 32ppg vs. 26.7ppg, 44% FG% vs. 43% FG%, +17 vs.+43

2021, BRK vs MIL, 2nd round, L. 0ppg vs. 14.3ppg, 0% FG% vs. 31% FG%, -2 vs. -19 *Note got injured 43 seconds into Game 1, returned Game 5.

2022, PHI vs MIA, 2nd round, L. 21ppg vs. 12.5ppg, 40% FG% vs. 41% FG%, +17 vs. -45

2023, PHI vs BOS, 2nd round, L. 28.8ppg vs. 13ppg, 47% FG% vs. 31% FG%, -31 vs. -30

2024, LAC vs DAL, 1st round, L. 26ppg vs. 11.5ppg, 54% FG% vs. 25% FG%, -17 vs. -31

2025, LAC vs DEN, 1st round, ?. 21.3ppg vs. 11ppg, 45% FG% vs. 33% FG%, +20 vs. -16

Interesting, so the Philly and Clippers years driving a lot of that.

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #3648 on: April 30, 2025, 06:23:41 PM »

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I am looking at these Pacers vs Bucks stats

The Pacers had

(1) Siakam at 20ppg 55.6% FG% 63% TS%
(2) Hali at 17.6ppg 53% TS% but 11.6apg against 2.2tov

(3) M Turner 16.8ppg 64.5% TS%
(4) Nembhard 15ppg 4.8apg 60.8% TS%
(5) Nesmith 15ppg 68.8% TS%

(6) McConell 10ppg 55% FG% 58.6% TS%
(7) Mathurin 10.3ppg 57.1% TS%

They had 7 guys average double digits for the series. A few of them having hugely efficient scoring outputs as well. 5 guys over 15ppg. 2 15ppg 2 17ppg 1 20ppg.

On the other end, Giannis put up 33ppg 15.4rpg 6.6apg 1.0spg 1.0bpg. He shot 60.9% FG% and had 12.6 FTAs per game at just under 70% giving him a TS% of 65.1%.

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #3649 on: April 30, 2025, 07:24:02 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #3650 on: April 30, 2025, 08:02:30 PM »

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What happened in Q1 for Houston to get out to such a big lead?

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #3651 on: April 30, 2025, 08:04:11 PM »

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Quentin Post and Gui Santos as your 2 bigs against Sengun and S Adams is terrible. Neither guy can cover their check.

In fairness to Gui Santos, he is putting up more fight than Q Post despite being even more severely undersized.

Nice block by Q Post on Sengun's drive, euro step and attempted layup. Sengun tried to do too much there. A lot of time it works for him though on those quick drives from the top of the key.

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« Reply #3652 on: April 30, 2025, 08:11:54 PM »

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Q Post staying way back on Sengun and conceding the midrange jump shot. Not a bad strategy. Sengun is a dodgy shooter. I'd feel better if they were 17-20 footers than 15 footers though.

On the season, Sengun shot 35.7% on long twos (16-23 feet) and 39.3% on midrange twos (10-16 feet).

Edit: The long twos are on very few attempts. One every 2 games. He rarely shoots beyond 15 feet. He doesn't have confidence further out on the floor.
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #3653 on: April 30, 2025, 08:25:06 PM »

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Q Post staying way back on Sengun and conceding the midrange jump shot. Not a bad strategy. Sengun is a dodgy shooter. I'd feel better if they were 17-20 footers than 15 footers though.

On the season, Sengun shot 35.7% on long twos (16-23 feet) and 39.3% on midrange twos (10-16 feet).

Looney there much closer. Still giving Sengun the shot but only giving him 2-3 feet room instead of 4-5 feet room. Close enough to put up a bit of shot contest.

Looney is a much better defensive & rebounding matchup. The rebounding matchup matters because both S Adams (especially Adams) and Sengun are beating the crap out of Q Post on the offensive glass. Post cannot box them out. He cannot keep them off the glass. He is not physical enough (strength wise, or mentality wise). Sengun could get even more joy against Post if he attacked more consistently on the glass like S Adams does. Post is scared everything a shot goes up and S Adams starts muscling his way to the rim.

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« Reply #3654 on: April 30, 2025, 08:35:09 PM »

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I was shocked the commentators thought that Sengun foul challenge was going to get overturned. He jump right across Jimmy's body.

You are meant to block that shot (at that angle) with your left hand. Not your right hand. Your left hand stops you going across the attackers body.

Even if you beat the attacker to the spot, you go with the left hand and not the right hand because the left allows you to stay in position for the rebound. While the right hand has you going out of bounds and out of the play. As Sengun did.

Bad fundamentals.

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« Reply #3655 on: April 30, 2025, 08:38:02 PM »

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5 steals in the first half already for Amen Thompson.

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #3656 on: April 30, 2025, 09:10:50 PM »

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Jimmy is having a terrible game.

This game is a write off for GSW. Just a crap all round game for them. Not much to learn from it. Too many guys didn't show up.

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #3657 on: April 30, 2025, 09:25:08 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #3658 on: April 30, 2025, 09:44:29 PM »

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GSW has given up which i don?t think is right down 16 with 7 minutes left. 

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #3659 on: April 30, 2025, 10:17:02 PM »

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So they are not even starting Jaxson Hayes anymore.

I wonder if he will come off the bench today or if they will avoid playing a center altogether. Maybe Markieff Morris instead. Ask him to space the floor.