Patriots 2024 Season

[Phantom255x]

I don't get the crying from Breer. Maybe the Patriots doing this better than the Raiders, Bears, Jets? They're still meeting that checkbox. Who told those other garbage franchises to interview 15 different candidates anyway lol

Yeah I mean, can someone explain to me why it's considered a "sham" what New England is doing but the others are somehow "legit"? Like how does Breer know that for a fact. What if those teams already have someone in mind as well and are just "checking the boxes". I'm sure Flores could go somewhere and find a job, but most of the other legit candidates that are well-known aren't minority (Coen, Vrabel, Ben Johnson, Moore, Kingsbury, etc.).

I guess Flores and Aaron Glenn are the likely black candidates, and btw the Pats are interviewing Glenn soon.

Sorry but the bigger issue is the Rooney Rule itself. They need to consider altering it in some way because it's not serving its purpose, and btw it hasn't served its purpose for a handful of years now across the league.

[johnnygreen]

I believe prior to last year, teams could have in-person interviews with 2 minority candidates from non-playoff teams prior to January 20th. However, they couldn't do those same interviews with candidates that were on playoff teams. Obviously, this was completely unfair and essentially penalized candidates from being part of a playoff team. So last year, the Rooney Rule was changed so that no candidates from any NFL team could interview until the divisional round or January 20th.

The Patriots interviewed two candidates that have been out of the league, and slipped through the cracks of the new rule. They might as well have interviewed 2 minorities that were shopping at Bass Pro Shop at Patriot Place. There is probably zero chance either of those guys gets another interviewed from another team because their simply not viable candidates.

As far as them getting permission to interview Aaron Glenn now, it might be completely irrelevant. They can simply hire Vrabel tomorrow and the Glenn interview could simply be canceled because they already interviewed 2 minority candidates.

They should do a thorough search. I like Vrabel, but part of me is afraid that he may be too much like Belichick and nothing will change. Don't get me wrong, I like Bill, but the toxicity of the front office wreaks of his influence and that definitely needs to change. This team needs new ideas, and I'm not sure Vrabel can provide that.

[SparzWizard]

According to Chad Graff of The Athletics:  After those interviews, a decision is expected to come quickly. Patriots owner Robert Kraft has a track record of being decisive when it comes to picking head coaches. The expectation is that this will continue and New England will have an agreement with its next head coach next week.

So far, they've interviewed: Pep Hamilton, Byron Leftwich, and Mike Vrabel. They'll follow-up with Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn tomorrow which are virtual interviews.

By next week, the Patriots HC vacancy will be filled. My guess is Mike Vrabel. But if Kraft thinks he can lock up Ben Johnson with one virtual interview then that will be interesting.

I would be furious if we did all those interviews and ended up with Leftwich or Hamilton. I do hope none of the better candidates pull a Josh McDaniels Colts on us 

[Phantom255x]

According to Chad Graff of The Athletics:  After those interviews, a decision is expected to come quickly. Patriots owner Robert Kraft has a track record of being decisive when it comes to picking head coaches. The expectation is that this will continue and New England will have an agreement with its next head coach next week.

So far, they've interviewed: Pep Hamilton, Byron Leftwich, and Mike Vrabel. They'll follow-up with Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn tomorrow which are virtual interviews.

By next week, the Patriots HC vacancy will be filled. My guess is Mike Vrabel. But if Kraft thinks he can lock up Ben Johnson with one virtual interview then that will be interesting.

I would be furious if we did all those interviews and ended up with Leftwich or Hamilton. I do hope none of the better candidates pull a Josh McDaniels Colts on us 

Glenn declined to interview here lol

[johnnygreen]

According to Chad Graff of The Athletics:  After those interviews, a decision is expected to come quickly. Patriots owner Robert Kraft has a track record of being decisive when it comes to picking head coaches. The expectation is that this will continue and New England will have an agreement with its next head coach next week.

So far, they've interviewed: Pep Hamilton, Byron Leftwich, and Mike Vrabel. They'll follow-up with Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn tomorrow which are virtual interviews.

By next week, the Patriots HC vacancy will be filled. My guess is Mike Vrabel. But if Kraft thinks he can lock up Ben Johnson with one virtual interview then that will be interesting.

I would be furious if we did all those interviews and ended up with Leftwich or Hamilton. I do hope none of the better candidates pull a Josh McDaniels Colts on us 

Glenn declined to interview here lol

A man with integrity.

[Goldstar88]

According to ESPN NFL insider Jeremy Fowler, former Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels could be primed for a third stint in Foxborough, especially if Vrabel wants to pair a seasoned offensive coach with a young QB like Drake Maye.

One note on Vrabel: There is buzz in some coaching circles that Josh McDaniels could be a prime candidate to be Vrabel?s offensive coordinator, Fowler wrote Thursday. That would be quite the nostalgia tandem, and though McDaniels is a two-time failed head coach, no one disputes his coordinator chops.

[johnnygreen]

If McDaniels becomes the Patriots next offensive coordinator, I think it would be a great thing for Drake Maye. Not only is he a very well respected offensive mind, he would most likely be here for the long run, as I can't see McDaniels getting another head coaching opportunity.

[Phantom255x]

I know we need OT help. And obviously if Travis Hunter is there at 4, you take him.

But man... Abdul Carter is a BEAST. Hard to pass up on him at 4 assuming Hunter is taken.

Maybe then you just address WR and OT help in Free Agency (and a 2nd round pick). Tee Higgins, a lineman like Staley or Robinson, then use 2nd round pick on another lineman.

[SparzWizard]

According to ESPN NFL insider Jeremy Fowler, former Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels could be primed for a third stint in Foxborough, especially if Vrabel wants to pair a seasoned offensive coach with a young QB like Drake Maye.

One note on Vrabel: There is buzz in some coaching circles that Josh McDaniels could be a prime candidate to be Vrabel?s offensive coordinator, Fowler wrote Thursday. That would be quite the nostalgia tandem, and though McDaniels is a two-time failed head coach, no one disputes his coordinator chops.

I thought the media is over with the Patriot Way (Belichick era) and is time to start afresh?

But actually, I wouldn't mind a tandem of Mike Vrabel as HC and Josh McDaniels as OC. McDaniels did well during Mac Jones' first year and got him selected for the Pro-Bowl, not to mention going on that 7-game winning streak. He'll surely elevate Maye's game.

As for DC, would Vrabel take head of that assignment or will they still need another DC?

[boscel33]

According to ESPN NFL insider Jeremy Fowler, former Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels could be primed for a third stint in Foxborough, especially if Vrabel wants to pair a seasoned offensive coach with a young QB like Drake Maye.

One note on Vrabel: There is buzz in some coaching circles that Josh McDaniels could be a prime candidate to be Vrabel?s offensive coordinator, Fowler wrote Thursday. That would be quite the nostalgia tandem, and though McDaniels is a two-time failed head coach, no one disputes his coordinator chops.

I thought the media is over with the Patriot Way (Belichick era) and is time to start afresh?

But actually, I wouldn't mind a tandem of Mike Vrabel as HC and Josh McDaniels as OC. McDaniels did well during Mac Jones' first year and got him selected for the Pro-Bowl, not to mention going on that 7-game winning streak. He'll surely elevate Maye's game.

As for DC, would Vrabel take head of that assignment or will they still need another DC?

I read a national pundit who believes the staff will be HC-Vrabel, OC-McDaniel, DC-Saleh.  I know Saleh is interviewing with the Jags, but I wouldn't mind him as DC.

[SparzWizard]

Besides the slacking 3-point centric offense and lackadaisical mindset that's been failing for the Celtics, at least one other Boston sports team is getting interesting again:

Per Rapoport: ?Mike Vrabel is believed to be the overwhelming favorite to be the next head coach of the New England Patriots. If that doesn?t work out, Ben Johnson [is] also in strong consideration"

"My understanding is there have been contract talks between the Patriots and Mike Vrabel?s agent. So, potentially a big domino that could fall here in the coming days," added Pelissero.

[SparzWizard]

According to ESPN NFL insider Jeremy Fowler, former Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels could be primed for a third stint in Foxborough, especially if Vrabel wants to pair a seasoned offensive coach with a young QB like Drake Maye.

One note on Vrabel: There is buzz in some coaching circles that Josh McDaniels could be a prime candidate to be Vrabel?s offensive coordinator, Fowler wrote Thursday. That would be quite the nostalgia tandem, and though McDaniels is a two-time failed head coach, no one disputes his coordinator chops.

I thought the media is over with the Patriot Way (Belichick era) and is time to start afresh?

But actually, I wouldn't mind a tandem of Mike Vrabel as HC and Josh McDaniels as OC. McDaniels did well during Mac Jones' first year and got him selected for the Pro-Bowl, not to mention going on that 7-game winning streak. He'll surely elevate Maye's game.

As for DC, would Vrabel take head of that assignment or will they still need another DC?

I read a national pundit who believes the staff will be HC-Vrabel, OC-McDaniel, DC-Saleh.  I know Saleh is interviewing with the Jags, but I wouldn't mind him as DC.

We might make some noise with that trio, at least on paper.

[Phantom255x]

According to ESPN NFL insider Jeremy Fowler, former Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels could be primed for a third stint in Foxborough, especially if Vrabel wants to pair a seasoned offensive coach with a young QB like Drake Maye.

One note on Vrabel: There is buzz in some coaching circles that Josh McDaniels could be a prime candidate to be Vrabel?s offensive coordinator, Fowler wrote Thursday. That would be quite the nostalgia tandem, and though McDaniels is a two-time failed head coach, no one disputes his coordinator chops.

I thought the media is over with the Patriot Way (Belichick era) and is time to start afresh?

But actually, I wouldn't mind a tandem of Mike Vrabel as HC and Josh McDaniels as OC. McDaniels did well during Mac Jones' first year and got him selected for the Pro-Bowl, not to mention going on that 7-game winning streak. He'll surely elevate Maye's game.

As for DC, would Vrabel take head of that assignment or will they still need another DC?

I read a national pundit who believes the staff will be HC-Vrabel, OC-McDaniel, DC-Saleh.  I know Saleh is interviewing with the Jags, but I wouldn't mind him as DC.

We might make some noise with that trio, at least on paper.

That's my dream scenario if Vrabel is the HC. McDaniels OC, Saleh DC, Van Pelt QB Coach.

You have to acknowledge, Van Pelt has done an awesome job developing Maye, and you could argue he did the same with getting Milton ready. I'm perfectly fine keeping him around as QB coach.

An added bonus with Josh McDaniels is, he's not likely to be a flight risk anymore because I doubt teams will be interested in him as a HC anymore. You can definitely critique him as HC but the guy is an excellent OC. This way, it's not like they hire an offensive coordinator that will leave for a HC position 1-2 years later and probably screw Maye's development if he has like 3 OC's in 3-4 years.

Saleh can help Vrabel run the defense and get it to an elite level. It's worth noting that when the Jets (aka Rodgers) fired him, that team's defense immediately dove off a cliff as well. The guy can coach and manage a defense.

[Goldstar88]

The Patriots might be nearing the goal line in their head coach search.

Mike Vrabel?s agent has had contract talks with the Patriots, NFL Media?s Tom Pelissero reported Saturday. With contract talks underway, Vrabel is the overwhelming favorite to become the Patriots next head coach, according to NFL Media?s Ian Rapoport. Additionally, Rapoport noted he hasn?t spoken to anybody who thinks the Patriots will hire anyone other than Vrabel.