Celtics (28-7) at Pacers (20-15) Game #36 1/8/24

[SCeltic34]

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022300507

On replay review, the coach's challenge of the shooting foul called on Hield (IND) was deemed successful. The video clearly shows that Hield reaches forward and makes contact with the ball from behind Brown (BOS). While in contact with the ball, Hield also makes minimal contact with Brown's head, and on review that contact was correctly deemed incidental. As the rulebook makes clear, the mere fact that contact occurs does not necessarily constitute a foul; contact which is incidental to an effort by a player to defend an opponent, reach a loose ball, or perform normal defensive or offensive movements is not considered illegal. Play resumed with IND possession, since Nesmith (IND) had imminent possession at the point of interruption.

Sheesh

For a further kick in the balls, it also says the Porzingis foul was the incorrect call.

In a sad bit of irony, we complain the refs didn't call it consistently for both teams, but they actually did, as they called an incorrect foul on both ends of the floor in the final seconds.  The difference was the Pacers had a challenge, the Celtics didn't.

Yeah, so I guess it was Joe's fault for using up his challenge earlier.

FIRE JOE!!!  (LOL)

Interpreting the contact to Brown's had as "incidental" is ridiculous. It'd be a terrible look to admit both calls were incorrect. There has been less contact to a player's head that was correctly called a foul.

No kidding.  There's no way that that isn't a foul. 

Such a joke that the officials decided that game.  It's the last thing the fans want to see.  Should just get rid of coaches' challenges if they're not going to get it right.  Dismantle the replay center.  It's useless.  Same thing for 2 min report.  Useless if it's not going to result in the officials being better at their job.  It's not like it increases accountability and improves the product.

[hwangjini_1]

there should have been no call on porzingas, according to the nba itself.

so no free throws by indiana. so overtime should have been the result, even if we accept the non-call against brown.

celtics were screwed by the refs in this one.

[liam]

Did everyone forget the fast break they took away from us by calling a technical foul on a Pacer? Very dirty game!

TP

[CelticsWhat35]

When did we use our challenge last night?  Obviously we didn’t have one left, otherwise we would’ve used it on the bogus call against KP

[jpotter33]

Oh, and let’s not overlook that the refs apparently changed their story now. Last night, the ref told JB that he wasn’t hit in the head, but apparently now it did happen and was just “incidental contact”.

If you don’t believe NBA officiating is corrupt at this point with this obvious cover-up of their mistake, I don’t know what to tell you.

[liam]

The NBA where getting it wrong is the main thing!

[liam]

I can't even tell if Hield touched the ball on the replay. It looks like all head!

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022300507

On replay review, the coach's challenge of the shooting foul called on Hield (IND) was deemed successful. The video clearly shows that Hield reaches forward and makes contact with the ball from behind Brown (BOS). While in contact with the ball, Hield also makes minimal contact with Brown's head, and on review that contact was correctly deemed incidental. As the rulebook makes clear, the mere fact that contact occurs does not necessarily constitute a foul; contact which is incidental to an effort by a player to defend an opponent, reach a loose ball, or perform normal defensive or offensive movements is not considered illegal. Play resumed with IND possession, since Nesmith (IND) had imminent possession at the point of interruption.

Sheesh

For a further kick in the balls, it also says the Porzingis foul was the incorrect call.

In a sad bit of irony, we complain the refs didn't call it consistently for both teams, but they actually did, as they called an incorrect foul on both ends of the floor in the final seconds.  The difference was the Pacers had a challenge, the Celtics didn't.

Yeah, so I guess it was Joe's fault for using up his challenge earlier.

FIRE JOE!!!  (LOL)

Interpreting the contact to Brown's had as "incidental" is ridiculous. It'd be a terrible look to admit both calls were incorrect. There has been less contact to a player's head that was correctly called a foul.

No kidding.  There's no way that that isn't a foul. 

Such a joke that the officials decided that game.  It's the last thing the fans want to see.  Should just get rid of coaches' challenges if they're not going to get it right.  Dismantle the replay center.  It's useless.  Same thing for 2 min report.  Useless if it's not going to result in the officials being better at their job.  It's not like it increases accountability and improves the product.

Maybe I should double-check the rulebook, but I'm pretty sure that there isn't any contact to the head that's allowed, not even under the banner of "incidental contact." A hit to the head is a foul, period, whether incidental or intentional.

[liam]

https://official.nba.com/l2m/L2MReport.html?gameId=0022300507

On replay review, the coach's challenge of the shooting foul called on Hield (IND) was deemed successful. The video clearly shows that Hield reaches forward and makes contact with the ball from behind Brown (BOS). While in contact with the ball, Hield also makes minimal contact with Brown's head, and on review that contact was correctly deemed incidental. As the rulebook makes clear, the mere fact that contact occurs does not necessarily constitute a foul; contact which is incidental to an effort by a player to defend an opponent, reach a loose ball, or perform normal defensive or offensive movements is not considered illegal. Play resumed with IND possession, since Nesmith (IND) had imminent possession at the point of interruption.

Sheesh

For a further kick in the balls, it also says the Porzingis foul was the incorrect call.

In a sad bit of irony, we complain the refs didn't call it consistently for both teams, but they actually did, as they called an incorrect foul on both ends of the floor in the final seconds.  The difference was the Pacers had a challenge, the Celtics didn't.

Yeah, so I guess it was Joe's fault for using up his challenge earlier.

FIRE JOE!!!  (LOL)

Interpreting the contact to Brown's had as "incidental" is ridiculous. It'd be a terrible look to admit both calls were incorrect. There has been less contact to a player's head that was correctly called a foul.

No kidding.  There's no way that that isn't a foul. 

Such a joke that the officials decided that game.  It's the last thing the fans want to see.  Should just get rid of coaches' challenges if they're not going to get it right.  Dismantle the replay center.  It's useless.  Same thing for 2 min report.  Useless if it's not going to result in the officials being better at their job.  It's not like it increases accountability and improves the product.

Maybe I should double-check the rulebook, but I'm pretty sure that there isn't any contact to the head that's allowed, not even under the banner of "incidental contact." A hit to the head is a foul, period, whether incidental or intentional.

Brown's head moves in the replay but not the ball.

[celticinorlando]

What a screw job by that crew of officials

[liam]

What a screw job by that crew of officials

and The NBA continues to do nothing...

[CelticSooner]

Incompetence or rigged? I’m really starting to rethink my NBA fandom after that L2M report. If we can’t trust the people running the game there is no reason to watch it.

[SparzWizard]

lol so they are really just going to continue propagandizing, eh?

They throw us a bone saying that we got screwed on two separate calls in favor of Indy, but the obvious foul was not a foul and correctly overturned to save them the embarrassment of admitting they got a call wrong even after it was reviewed.

Good grief. NBA officiating is so broke. Get rid of them all and start anew. Since when is head contact during a jump shot “incidental”? And even claiming it’s “incidental” is non-sense; you can see it move his actual head in the replay!

They're really gonna have sleepless nights if they hear you complain about it 

[SparzWizard]

Incompetence or rigged? I’m really starting to rethink my NBA fandom after that L2M report. If we can’t trust the people running the game there is no reason to watch it.

Never trusted them since Tim Donaughy. Or 2010 Game 7 rig job in the 4th quarter.

[celticinorlando]

The KP foul never should have been called. At worst it was OT. Just crooked.