Jaylen Brown appreciation thread

[Donoghus]

I'm confused.  Is it possible that Jaylen Brown does contribute to winning?

Nah.

[celticsclay]

I'm confused.  Is it possible that Jaylen Brown does contribute to winning?

No he doesn’t and white isn’t an elite defender.

[blink]

I'm confused.  Is it possible that Jaylen Brown does contribute to winning?

JB should have been All-NBA.  How many guys who weren't all-nba averaged 24ppg in the playoffs, shooting 54% fg, playing great def, and have a 40 point game in the conf finals?  The list is probably pretty short.  JB wasn't happy about the way the C's played in game 1.   He probably wasn't happy about not making All NBA.  But I like the slightly p---ed off Jaylen.  He is motivated, and there is a little bit of MJ-ish anger that helps him play with an edge.  I hope it rubs off on JT.  JT could do with playing a little bit angry as well.  I hope JB is in his ear with more big deuce pep talks.  Closing the Pacers out is going to be hard, and the finals (if they get there will be harder).  We need both JT / JB to play there best to win a title.

The lakers and suns getting two guys on all-nba is just insane.  For all the points they score neither KD, nor Booker are ever a threat in the playoffs unless they are playing w/ the warriors.  Lebron, KD, Davis, Booker, if they are so great why are they all bounced in the 1st round?

JB right behind Kareem in the list of most 40 point games in a conference finals
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/most-40-point-conference-finals-games

[0003323344]

I'm confused.  Is it possible that Jaylen Brown does contribute to winning?

No he doesn’t and white isn’t an elite defender.

In both games so far JB most certainly has contributed to winning. While Tatum played ok he still walks the ball up the court when the Celtics have a big lead and it results in the other team coming back.
JB has been attacking the rim relentlessly really the whole playoffs so far.

[Moranis]

I'm confused.  Is it possible that Jaylen Brown does contribute to winning?

he had a great game yesterday, no question, but his on/off differential per 100 possessionsin the playoffs even with last night is -13.7

[Roy H.]

I'm confused.  Is it possible that Jaylen Brown does contribute to winning?

he had a great game yesterday, no question, but his on/off differential per 100 possessionsin the playoffs even with last night is -13.7

Maybe that stat isn't as important as you think.

[jambr380]

I'm confused.  Is it possible that Jaylen Brown does contribute to winning?

he had a great game yesterday, no question, but his on/off differential per 100 possessionsin the playoffs even with last night is -13.7

Maybe that stat isn't as important as you think.

Somebody posted that Luke was actually fine in game 1 because he ended up +2.

I will say that Tatum's +20 in game 1 looked legit, as did Jaylen's +18 in ths game. That stat can be worth looking at, but there are a lot of other factors that go into whether or not a player was effective

[Moranis]

I'm confused.  Is it possible that Jaylen Brown does contribute to winning?

he had a great game yesterday, no question, but his on/off differential per 100 possessionsin the playoffs even with last night is -13.7

Maybe that stat isn't as important as you think.

he was -17.7 before last night. So his great game certainly moved the needle.

[Vermont Green]

I see Brown as really having come of age this season, and it is especially apparent in this playoff run.  He is a force on both ends of the floor, albeit rough around the edges at time.  But he signed his big contract and got better.  He may well be the best #2 in the game, certainly the best #2 left in the playoffs.

But what I think is really important is his "I love my brothers" stuff.  You first saw it with Porzingis, he embraced Porzingis and I believe that helped Porzingis integrate with the team.  You hear him say things about his teammates and then what the teammates say back.  Tatum is the leader and best player on this team.  But he is not a "love you bro" kind of guy.  That is Brown.  Not exactly KG but a little bit of that in him.  I don't think Tatum is any less loyal or whatever to his teammates, but Brown is more outward about it.  It is impacting team chemistry in a positive way.

As to the individual Net ON/OFF +/- stat, I have doubted that stat for a while.  I did an analysis of Porzingis in his injury thread which shows the impact of who is ON when a player is OFF.  Or who else may be OFF when the player is ON.  I am not sure what is going on with Brown.  But if you look at playoff 2 man stats, Brown is negative when on the court with Pritchard and Kornet, kind of neutral when on the court with Hauser, but very good the rest of the time.

I don't know how anyone can watch the recent playoff games and not think that Brown has been a major factor in winning.  I can't figure out why the Net ON/OFF +/- stats don't reflect this, there must be something wonky going on.  But I am all in on Jaylen Brown.

[Phantom255x]

For all the talk about Tatum, Horford and others, Jaylen has been absolutely balling this postseason. Averaging around 25 PPG on 54% shooting(!), and shooting 37% from 3 which might also be a bit skewed because he had one game against Miami where he was like 1-8. He's been a beast and has been consistent too. The mid-range has been lethal.

Honestly, forget Tatum vs. Ant. Is Ant better than Jaylen? Jaylen also has a lethal mid-range game and plays elite defense too. I'm definitely half-joking but again, JB has been awesome this postseason. Even defensively he's stepped up along with Jrue Holiday and locked down other stars.

[Neurotic Guy]

I'm confused.  Is it possible that Jaylen Brown does contribute to winning?

he had a great game yesterday, no question, but his on/off differential per 100 possessionsin the playoffs even with last night is -13.7

Maybe that stat isn't as important as you think.

he was -17.7 before last night. So his great game certainly moved the needle.

Eyes. More valuable than numbers.

[hodgy03038]

I appreciate JB and he is the main reason we are 2-0 in this series with big help from a few others but he made the big turnover happen, he made the ridiculous shot and last night he dominated.

Thank you JB and I forgive you for all the missed free throws this year which was my biggest gripe with him!

[KGs Knee]

I've come around on Jaylen this season. I've been impressed with his growth and maturity. He seems far more comfortable in his role and far less in need of proving himself. He's also seemingly focused more on doing the things he's good at and eschewing the things he isn't so great at, playing to his strengths and in control.

Jaylen has routinely come up big when the team has needed him to, yet also willingly stepped aside when others are feasting. For the first time, I can truly say I'm a Jaylen fan. I'll gladly come out of hibernation to give the man the flowers he deserves.

[Moranis]

I'm confused.  Is it possible that Jaylen Brown does contribute to winning?

he had a great game yesterday, no question, but his on/off differential per 100 possessionsin the playoffs even with last night is -13.7

Maybe that stat isn't as important as you think.

he was -17.7 before last night. So his great game certainly moved the needle.

Eyes. More valuable than numbers.

that is how you get into trouble

[Roy H.]

I honestly can't think of a single thing outside of his FT% that I'd criticize JB for this year.  Offense, defense, being a good teammate, staying focused...  He's everything we could want.