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Re: Celtics News
« Reply #3585 on: Yesterday at 08:56:44 AM »

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The problem with our roster wasn't that it was too focused on two players.  That's spin. 

I agree with this.  The problem with having Brown on a second max contract isn't that Brown is not a good player or that having (2) good players is some kind of a problem.  The issue the second max contract creates is that you don't have enough money left to spend on the rest of the roster.  You can't have Tatum and Brown both on max deals and then go get players like Holiday and Porzingis. You end up having to go with players like Queta and Scheierman.

I think if Brown was on say a $40M deal instead of a $58M (and looking for an extension), Brown would not have been traded.  Teams really can't afford even 1 max deal unless it is a top player like Tatum.  If you have given your first max deal to the 20th best player or something like that, you are probably not going to win a title.  The trade market for Brown turned out to be restrained but this was not due to his ability, it was his ability relative to his contract.  Teams did not seem to want Brown on a max deal as their #1.
but now they don't have Brown and still don't have the ability to add players like Holiday and Porzingis because they have PG with a similar salary as Brown and is a less productive player. 

it's like the CBA is designed to push teams to build with young players on cheap deals and have to deal them away when/if they've developed into max-contract-type players.   Can't say I'm a fan of it.  I have little doubt that the next CBA will be revised in a way that will screw the C's yet again no matter what their roster/financial situation is at that point.

Yes, they are stuck with Paul George on a max deal for now so no better off this season.  I am not saying I like the trade.  It may work out if they are able to trade Paul George (with picks attached) or if they end up getting a lottery pick out of it, but for now, I don't see how the team is better.  Maybe no worse if George can stay healthy, maybe, but that seems like the ceiling, to be about the same.

Again, if they are somehow about the same or close to the same, but with the added picks, they could still come out of this ahead, maybe, over time.  But fans are impatient.

Re: Celtics News
« Reply #3586 on: Yesterday at 04:01:28 PM »

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Re: Celtics News
« Reply #3587 on: Today at 09:33:23 AM »

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« Reply #3588 on: Today at 10:36:30 AM »

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« Reply #3589 on: Today at 11:02:11 AM »

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Re: Celtics News
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The problem with our roster wasn't that it was too focused on two players.  That's spin. 

I agree with this.  The problem with having Brown on a second max contract isn't that Brown is not a good player or that having (2) good players is some kind of a problem.  The issue the second max contract creates is that you don't have enough money left to spend on the rest of the roster.  You can't have Tatum and Brown both on max deals and then go get players like Holiday and Porzingis. You end up having to go with players like Queta and Scheierman.

I think if Brown was on say a $40M deal instead of a $58M (and looking for an extension), Brown would not have been traded.  Teams really can't afford even 1 max deal unless it is a top player like Tatum.  If you have given your first max deal to the 20th best player or something like that, you are probably not going to win a title.  The trade market for Brown turned out to be restrained but this was not due to his ability, it was his ability relative to his contract.  Teams did not seem to want Brown on a max deal as their #1.
but now they don't have Brown and still don't have the ability to add players like Holiday and Porzingis because they have PG with a similar salary as Brown and is a less productive player. 

it's like the CBA is designed to push teams to build with young players on cheap deals and have to deal them away when/if they've developed into max-contract-type players.   Can't say I'm a fan of it.  I have little doubt that the next CBA will be revised in a way that will screw the C's yet again no matter what their roster/financial situation is at that point.

Yes, they are stuck with Paul George on a max deal for now so no better off this season.  I am not saying I like the trade.  It may work out if they are able to trade Paul George (with picks attached) or if they end up getting a lottery pick out of it, but for now, I don't see how the team is better.  Maybe no worse if George can stay healthy, maybe, but that seems like the ceiling, to be about the same.

Again, if they are somehow about the same or close to the same, but with the added picks, they could still come out of this ahead, maybe, over time.  But fans are impatient.

I think this team will be the same regular season wise and record but if healthy better suited for the playoffs.  Outside of getting a top 5 pick or a disgruntled superstar (let's say Ant man wanted out) this deal will never be in the C's favor.  I still think the team just had enough of JB and some of the things he comes with.  I don't think they dislike JB or hate JB I think the FO didn't think the could win another championship with JB and JT.  Jaylen will always be one of my favorite C's but his style of play, turnovers, going off script, thinking he's better then Tatum (This is my opinion not fact) he was no longer a good fit.  Plus having to pay him 70m for his age 33 season and forward it just wasn't a good fit.  I don't know if they took pennies on the dollar or if this was the best they could get I think they just wanted to move on.  Maybe Jaylen requested to be moved and the team agreed to take the blowback.  Jaylen acted surprised but I don't think it's as a surprise as he stated.  I'm probably wrong but the JB/JT era was absolutely over after all of the comments and style of play the C's want to go to that Jaylen didn't fit.  I'll miss JB but I think this team will be better in the playoffs then they were last year if the PG13 from the playoffs last year shows up this year.

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« Reply #3592 on: Today at 02:17:59 PM »

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https://www.boston.com/real-e.tate/boston-celtics/2026/09/22/celtics-gorman-lists-boston-penthouse/

Now to find the other $1,494,900...

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Hah!   Not that I'd want to live downtown (or could afford to) but housing prices are just crazy.  I feel for my children (in their 30s).  When my wife and I were starting out (I was 31; she was 27) we bought a small house for $145,000 - about the same square footage as Gorman's condo.   We're no longer there, but that small ranch is worth more than $600,000 now.  How does an average-earning couple starting out afford to buy a home?

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https://www.boston.com/real-e.tate/boston-celtics/2026/09/22/celtics-gorman-lists-boston-penthouse/

Now to find the other $1,494,900...

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Hah!   Not that I'd want to live downtown (or could afford to) but housing prices are just crazy.  I feel for my children (in their 30s).  When my wife and I were starting out (I was 31; she was 27) we bought a small house for $145,000 - about the same square footage as Gorman's condo.   We're no longer there, but that small ranch is worth more than $600,000 now.  How does an average-earning couple starting out afford to buy a home?
Craziest part is when I saw the 1.5 mil price tag, my first thought was wow that's much cheaper than I expected.

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https://www.boston.com/real-e.tate/boston-celtics/2026/09/22/celtics-gorman-lists-boston-penthouse/

Now to find the other $1,494,900...

Mike

Hah!   Not that I'd want to live downtown (or could afford to) but housing prices are just crazy.  I feel for my children (in their 30s).  When my wife and I were starting out (I was 31; she was 27) we bought a small house for $145,000 - about the same square footage as Gorman's condo.   We're no longer there, but that small ranch is worth more than $600,000 now.  How does an average-earning couple starting out afford to buy a home?
Craziest part is when I saw the 1.5 mil price tag, my first thought was wow that's much cheaper than I expected.

I imagine the HOA fees in that building are easily $1K+


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