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Is this something to consider?
« on: May 19, 2023, 05:37:48 PM »

Offline Dchuck

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Regarding JB

Is it guaranteed he stays and signs with us?  He seems like a headstrong type who would go elsewhere for a number of reasons…ie. doesnt like playing second fiddle, doesnt like playing on this team or the city of Boston

Also, if both JT and JB sign these “all-nba” contracts, the tax implications are astronomical and roster flexibility is limited.

Just a question, but is this something to consider? 🤔

https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1659656444491210767?s=46&t=1X_JM6t_sHOmJ-4Zf9_JdQ
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Re: Is this something to consider?
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2023, 05:44:28 PM »

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A Simons is a small two guard. Bad defender. Doesn't move the needle much in terms of winning.

Not a great fit either next to our trio of combo guards in Smart, D White and Brogdon. I suppose we could do a follow up trade and trade one of those three guys for a new forward - either SF to replace Jaylen and keep Tatum at PF or a new PF to move Tatum back to SF.

The #3 pick is not a great asset for a win-now team. That player will likely be a few years away from being able to be a major contributor to a title contender. Brandon Miller looks a good pickup at #3.

Scoot Henderson would an amazing pickup. I would probably do that deal if Scoot was still there at #3. Take Scoot and A Simons. Trade two of the combo guards for young forwards / bigs. Build a new contender around Tatum & Scoot. Prepare for a post-Horford time period.

I might value Scoot as an individual asset above Jaylen straight up. Nevermind getting A Simons as well. I guess Simons is the price you get for taking a chance on Scoot's unproven future potential over Jaylen's proven ability. Still, Scoot has a very good chance to be a superior player than Jaylen is.
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Re: Is this something to consider?
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2023, 05:48:34 PM »

Offline Dchuck

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Quote from: Who on May 19, 2023, 05:44:28 PM
A Simons is a small two guard. Bad defender. Doesn't move the needle much in terms of winning.

Not a great fit either next to our trio of combo guards in Smart, D White and Brogdon. I suppose we could do a follow up trade and trade one of those three guys for a new forward - either SF to replace Jaylen and keep Tatum at PF or a new PF to move Tatum back to SF.

The #3 pick is not a great asset for a win-now team. That player will likely be a few years away from being able to be a major contributor to a title contender. Brandon Miller looks a good pickup at #3.

Scoot Henderson would an amazing pickup. I would probably do that deal if Scoot was still there at #3. Take Scoot and A Simons. Trade two of the combo guards for young forwards / bigs. Build a new contender around Tatum & Scoot. Prepare for a post-Horford time period.

I’m picking up what ur putting down.  My thoughts exactly.  I think Scoot will be there.  Having both assets at that age gives us great flexibility moving forward.

And JB and JT have had enough time together and playoff experience to show what they can do. 

All im saying is, I wouldnt hang up the phone.
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Re: Is this something to consider?
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2023, 07:44:30 PM »

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Quote from: Who on May 19, 2023, 05:44:28 PM
A Simons is a small two guard. Bad defender. Doesn't move the needle much in terms of winning.

Not a great fit either next to our trio of combo guards in Smart, D White and Brogdon. I suppose we could do a follow up trade and trade one of those three guys for a new forward - either SF to replace Jaylen and keep Tatum at PF or a new PF to move Tatum back to SF.

The #3 pick is not a great asset for a win-now team. That player will likely be a few years away from being able to be a major contributor to a title contender. Brandon Miller looks a good pickup at #3.

Scoot Henderson would an amazing pickup. I would probably do that deal if Scoot was still there at #3. Take Scoot and A Simons. Trade two of the combo guards for young forwards / bigs. Build a new contender around Tatum & Scoot. Prepare for a post-Horford time period.

I might value Scoot as an individual asset above Jaylen straight up. Nevermind getting A Simons as well. I guess Simons is the price you get for taking a chance on Scoot's unproven future potential over Jaylen's proven ability. Still, Scoot has a very good chance to be a superior player than Jaylen is.

Scoot can't shoot...
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Re: Is this something to consider?
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2023, 08:36:05 PM »

Offline Celtic_Pride777

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Quote from: Dchuck on May 19, 2023, 05:37:48 PM
Regarding JB

Is it guaranteed he stays and signs with us?  He seems like a headstrong type who would go elsewhere for a number of reasons…ie. doesnt like playing second fiddle, doesnt like playing on this team or the city of Boston

Also, if both JT and JB sign these “all-nba” contracts, the tax implications are astronomical and roster flexibility is limited.

Just a question, but is this something to consider? 🤔

https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1659656444491210767?s=46&t=1X_JM6t_sHOmJ-4Zf9_JdQ

The team will probably give Jaylen the super-max, but I'm worried he won't take another major leap. We're seeing him at his best and yet there are still some concerning flaws in his game. Right now, he isn't good enough as someone who can elevate his game and lead a team to a title as a Number 2. If you're giving $300 million dollars to a 26-year-old who might have already reached his ceiling (not to mention paying millions more in luxury tax), you're gambling on him improving and becoming a legit superstar. If I'm Wyc, I'd take this into consideration.
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Re: Is this something to consider?
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2023, 11:10:00 PM »

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Re: Is this something to consider?
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2023, 11:20:32 PM »

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Brown, Smart

For

Simons, Nurkic, Scoot (3), 24 1st

Boston post-trade

White, Simons, Tatum, Al, Rob
Scoot, Brogdon, Hauser, Grant, Nurkic
Pritchard, Gallo, Muscala, Kornet, 35

That 2nd 5 might be better than some teams starters
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Re: Is this something to consider?
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2023, 11:22:45 PM »

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You have to resign Brown. It’s a no-brainer. Doesn’t mean you don’t trade him but you have to sign All-NBA talent
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