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Re: NBA/NBPA Agree to New CBA with Big Changes
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2023, 02:33:49 PM »

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Game changer: The league's new collective bargaining agreement will give players the ability to invest in NBA and WNBA teams, as well as promote and/or invest in sports betting and cannabis companies, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

So, if Tatum invests in the Celtics, what happens if he’s traded?
I'm a lot more concerned with the league allowing players to invest in sports betting.  talk about someone having an immediate ability to impact wins and losses to cover their bets as well as the betting lines during games they're in.  I give it less than one season after a player invests in one of those companies before a scandal happens

Investing in sports betting could actually help prevent scandals.  If you’re employed by a sportsbook, you aren’t allowed to bet, or you potentially put your sportsbook’s licenses on the line.  They’ll enforce compliance as least as much as the NBA will.
are investors employees?  I don't think so.  a player having a cold night shooting happens but when there's money involved that benefits them, it raises a lot of questions/suspicions.

Re: NBA/NBPA Agree to New CBA with Big Changes
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2023, 03:10:15 PM »

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What worries me is the part about no MLE and buyout signings for teams above the luxury tax by a decent margin. That could affect us big time down the road. And not just us, but even teams like MIL and LAC

We still have Gallinari for next season, probably Muscala as well for just 3M. But after that? Idk

I read that this will be phased in, so we may have wiggle room in the short term.


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Re: NBA/NBPA Agree to New CBA with Big Changes
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2023, 03:20:03 PM »

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What worries me is the part about no MLE and buyout signings for teams above the luxury tax by a decent margin. That could affect us big time down the road. And not just us, but even teams like MIL and LAC

We still have Gallinari for next season, probably Muscala as well for just 3M. But after that? Idk

I read that this will be phased in, so we may have wiggle room in the short term.

Well thatcis certainly good news. If we can get a fleshed-out, young-ish supporting cast set up before the mle hammer drops, we will be set. Really we just need a backup wing and a replacement for Horford.

Re: NBA/NBPA Agree to New CBA with Big Changes
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2023, 06:27:48 PM »

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Shams Charania: The NBA/NBPA’s new CBA will create a new Second-Round Pick Exception that can be used so teams will no longer need to dip into the mid-level exception to sign second-rounders, sources tell me and @Mike Vorkunov.

As clarification, Shams must mean to sign second rounders to longer than two year contracts above the minimum.

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Adrian Wojnarowski: ESPN Reporting with @BobbyMarks42: The NBA and NBPA agreed on some improved leverage for restricted free agents, including a 10 percent increase in qualifying offers and shortening the matching period from 48 to 24 hours.


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Re: NBA/NBPA Agree to New CBA with Big Changes
« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2023, 06:32:49 PM »

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10070887-report-all-nba-honors-to-be-positionless-in-new-cba-must-play-at-least-65-games

Looks like All-NBA will be positionless in new CBA, too. Another good change, I think.

I think this is a great idea.  The best 15 should be 1st, 2nd, 3rd team all NBA regardless of position.

I don't think the in season tourney is a good idea though...

Re: NBA/NBPA Agree to New CBA with Big Changes
« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2023, 06:39:26 PM »

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In order to avoid another spike, the NBA and NBPA have agreed to cap smoothing in the new CBA.

The smoothing agreement will see cap increases limited to 10%, while pushing any additional percentage increase into subsequent years. By smoothing out the increases, that should provide more balance to free agent classes over multiple years.


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« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2023, 07:22:54 PM »

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In order to avoid another spike, the NBA and NBPA have agreed to cap smoothing in the new CBA.

The smoothing agreement will see cap increases limited to 10%, while pushing any additional percentage increase into subsequent years. By smoothing out the increases, that should provide more balance to free agent classes over multiple years.

Wow, that’s shocking the players agreed to such a small cap on smoothing.  10% is so small —  they hit that last year without a new media deal kicking in.

Re: NBA/NBPA Agree to New CBA with Big Changes
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2023, 07:04:45 PM »

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Another significant piece:  teams above the second apron can’t take on salary in trades.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/new-nba-cba-explained/


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« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2023, 07:30:08 PM »

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Another significant piece:  teams above the second apron can’t take on salary in trades.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/new-nba-cba-explained/

Wow, that’s way closer to a hard cap than I would’ve expect the players to let happen.

Re: NBA/NBPA Agree to New CBA with Big Changes
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2023, 10:50:37 AM »

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I hadn't seen this provision:

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Teams will be able to use signing exceptions as trade exceptions
WHAT IS IT:
In today’s world, a team can only use their MLE to sign a player to a contract. The only way to acquire a player via trade is to match salary in a deal, or to acquire them using a Traded Player Exception (TPE)

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This is also a good change. It allows teams increased flexibility in how they can build their rosters. Anything that allows for more ways to build a roster is for the better.

That's a really interesting change.  Basically, you can now trade for a player using your MLE.  That will allow for a lot more player movement.

https://www.spotrac.com/news/updated-nba-and-nbpa-reach-cba-agreement-1836/


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Re: NBA/NBPA Agree to New CBA with Big Changes
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2023, 11:09:35 AM »

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One interesting proposal that didn't end up making it into the new CBA - each team is allowed only two super max players. For all the talk about wanting to increase parity, this would have gone a long way toward that.
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Re: NBA/NBPA Agree to New CBA with Big Changes
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2023, 11:19:19 AM »

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One interesting proposal that didn't end up making it into the new CBA - each team is allowed only two super max players. For all the talk about wanting to increase parity, this would have gone a long way toward that.

They also eliminated the maximum of two designated Designated Players on a team at a time.


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Re: NBA/NBPA Agree to New CBA with Big Changes
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2023, 11:48:47 AM »

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I hadn't seen this provision:

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Teams will be able to use signing exceptions as trade exceptions
WHAT IS IT:
In today’s world, a team can only use their MLE to sign a player to a contract. The only way to acquire a player via trade is to match salary in a deal, or to acquire them using a Traded Player Exception (TPE)

ANALYSIS:
This is also a good change. It allows teams increased flexibility in how they can build their rosters. Anything that allows for more ways to build a roster is for the better.

That's a really interesting change.  Basically, you can now trade for a player using your MLE.  That will allow for a lot more player movement.

https://www.spotrac.com/news/updated-nba-and-nbpa-reach-cba-agreement-1836/

I had heard they were trying to give more flexibility to teams below the first apron, so that is an interesting one.

Re: NBA/NBPA Agree to New CBA with Big Changes
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2023, 01:06:03 PM »

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I hadn't seen this provision:

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Teams will be able to use signing exceptions as trade exceptions
WHAT IS IT:
In today’s world, a team can only use their MLE to sign a player to a contract. The only way to acquire a player via trade is to match salary in a deal, or to acquire them using a Traded Player Exception (TPE)

ANALYSIS:
This is also a good change. It allows teams increased flexibility in how they can build their rosters. Anything that allows for more ways to build a roster is for the better.

That's a really interesting change.  Basically, you can now trade for a player using your MLE.  That will allow for a lot more player movement.

https://www.spotrac.com/news/updated-nba-and-nbpa-reach-cba-agreement-1836/

Wonder if this will turn out to be a bad move for the players as a whole.

If you're running a team, do you sign a MLE in the offseason from the limited pool of available players, or do you wait to see if you can use it for a trade midseason and/or wait to see if your team even needs to add a player, and then maybe end up not using it at all?

I could see a drop in offseason MLE signings across the league, which I think would be bad for players (fewer contracts as a whole, less competition for free agents, maybe more partial season contracts if teams wait).  Not saying that will happen, but I see it as a possibility.

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« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2023, 01:13:17 PM »

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I hadn't seen this provision:

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Teams will be able to use signing exceptions as trade exceptions
WHAT IS IT:
In today’s world, a team can only use their MLE to sign a player to a contract. The only way to acquire a player via trade is to match salary in a deal, or to acquire them using a Traded Player Exception (TPE)

ANALYSIS:
This is also a good change. It allows teams increased flexibility in how they can build their rosters. Anything that allows for more ways to build a roster is for the better.

That's a really interesting change.  Basically, you can now trade for a player using your MLE.  That will allow for a lot more player movement.

https://www.spotrac.com/news/updated-nba-and-nbpa-reach-cba-agreement-1836/

Wonder if this will turn out to be a bad move for the players as a whole.

If you're running a team, do you sign a MLE in the offseason from the limited pool of available players, or do you wait to see if you can use it for a trade midseason and/or wait to see if your team even needs to add a player, and then maybe end up not using it at all?

I could see a drop in offseason MLE signings across the league, which I think would be bad for players (fewer contracts as a whole, less competition for free agents, maybe more partial season contracts if teams wait).  Not saying that will happen, but I see it as a possibility.

Tough to say.  Theoretically it should also make it easier for teams that need to clear salary in the summer to sign a guy, because now there are a bunch more teams with the ability to take on a player, but you’re right it could definitely go the other way.