2023 Red Sox Season Thread

[boscel33]

Now we're hearing how close the Sox were to making trades.  They're acting just like Danny did with the C's!

[footey]

Red Sox re-acquire Noah Song. Hope this kid pans out!!

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Red Sox re-acquire Noah Song. Hope this kid pans out!!

Not sure it matters at this point. Boston's playoff hopes for this season are quickly disappearing, given that they're losing 6-2 to the Jays right now, and their next two games are the oh-so-wonderful bullpen games—by the time this series is over, they'll probably be 5 or so out of a playoff spot.

[libermaniac]

Can someone explain to me why Gunnar Henderson (-700) is a heavy favorite over Tristan Casas (+700) for AL ROY? I’m not
Familiar with Henderson. Is he an amazing defender because Casas has a better average and OPS and only one fewer HRs in 57 fewer ABs? I didn’t think the winning team argument mattered as much in baseball and especially for ROY.

[GetLucky]

Can someone explain to me why Gunnar Henderson (-700) is a heavy favorite over Tristan Casas (+700) for AL ROY? I’m not
Familiar with Henderson. Is he an amazing defender because Casas has a better average and OPS and only one fewer HRs in 57 fewer ABs? I didn’t think the winning team argument mattered as much in baseball and especially for ROY.

WAR of 1.6 v. 4.6, so I'm assuming Henderson's defense is superior. His bat is also far above average at SS compared to Casas' competition at 1B.

[libermaniac]

Can someone explain to me why Gunnar Henderson (-700) is a heavy favorite over Tristan Casas (+700) for AL ROY? I’m not
Familiar with Henderson. Is he an amazing defender because Casas has a better average and OPS and only one fewer HRs in 57 fewer ABs? I didn’t think the winning team argument mattered as much in baseball and especially for ROY.

WAR of 1.6 v. 4.6, so I'm assuming Henderson's defense is superior. His bat is also far above average at SS compared to Casas' competition at 1B.

Thank you. TP. I’m old school so OPS is about as technical as I get. 😉

[kraidstar]

What a loss tonight. 23 hits and we can't pull it out.

Let's give a big hand for Chris Sale and his 6 earned runs. Well done, Chris. I'd say we should put him out to pasture, but I guess the organization and fanbase need the extra drama and disappointment.

[Phantom255x]

2nd straight year (and 3rd in the last 4 years) where we go into September and the season is basically over. I'm not really even paying attention to them anymore. It's a sad state the organization is in but it seems the ownership group doesn't care. Cut payroll, just be content with a team around 75-85 wins (missing playoffs) and keep talking about the future. All while other teams are making legit strides.

Bloom has also done a terrible job building this roster (the pitching staff especially, the depth is putrid) and his last three deadlines have all been inexcusable for different reasons. And outside of Story I guess (who was one of the last FAs to sign in 2022 btw) and the Devers extension, what "big/bold" moves has he made?

There'll be many options this offseason like Yamamoto, Snell, etc. or even trade possibilities. If he doesn't make a big move and it's more of the same (Garrett Richards/Kluber/Rich Hill types) then I don't even think I'll bother following in 2024. It's clear the front office + ownership don't care. I feel bad for Cora if he gets scapegoated, it's not his fault this roster is putrid and extremely flawed. 

Also Chris Sale to me almost represents everything wrong with the Sox currently. Bloated contract, always hurt, dumb stunts (like last season when he got an injury from riding his bike + also smashing the TVs in Worcester), very inconsistent. And every single season he'll get hurt to begin the year with something and then it's "oh just wait until Chris Sale comes back!". Enough. Eat some money and just trade him away. Thanks for everything but I'm all set with Sale for good. Relying on him for anything in 2024 would be super dumb, and also a joke

[Celtics2021]

2nd straight year (and 3rd in the last 4 years) where we go into September and the season is basically over. I'm not really even paying attention to them anymore. It's a sad state the organization is in but it seems the ownership group doesn't care. Cut payroll, just be content with a team around 75-85 wins (missing playoffs) and keep talking about the future. All while other teams are making legit strides.

Bloom has also done a terrible job building this roster (the pitching staff especially, the depth is putrid) and his last three deadlines have all been inexcusable for different reasons. And outside of Story I guess (who was one of the last FAs to sign in 2022 btw) and the Devers extension, what "big/bold" moves has he made?

There'll be many options this offseason like Yamamoto, Snell, etc. or even trade possibilities. If he doesn't make a big move and it's more of the same (Garrett Richards/Kluber/Rich Hill types) then I don't even think I'll bother following in 2024. It's clear the front office + ownership don't care. I feel bad for Cora if he gets scapegoated, it's not his fault this roster is putrid and extremely flawed. 

Also Chris Sale to me almost represents everything wrong with the Sox currently. Bloated contract, always hurt, dumb stunts (like last season when he got an injury from riding his bike + also smashing the TVs in Worcester), very inconsistent. And every single season he'll get hurt to begin the year with something and then it's "oh just wait until Chris Sale comes back!". Enough. Eat some money and just trade him away. Thanks for everything but I'm all set with Sale for good. Relying on him for anything in 2024 would be super dumb, and also a joke

As a Mets fan, all I can tell you is quit complaining.  You don’t know how good you’ve had it!

[hpantazo]

2nd straight year (and 3rd in the last 4 years) where we go into September and the season is basically over. I'm not really even paying attention to them anymore. It's a sad state the organization is in but it seems the ownership group doesn't care. Cut payroll, just be content with a team around 75-85 wins (missing playoffs) and keep talking about the future. All while other teams are making legit strides.

Bloom has also done a terrible job building this roster (the pitching staff especially, the depth is putrid) and his last three deadlines have all been inexcusable for different reasons. And outside of Story I guess (who was one of the last FAs to sign in 2022 btw) and the Devers extension, what "big/bold" moves has he made?

There'll be many options this offseason like Yamamoto, Snell, etc. or even trade possibilities. If he doesn't make a big move and it's more of the same (Garrett Richards/Kluber/Rich Hill types) then I don't even think I'll bother following in 2024. It's clear the front office + ownership don't care. I feel bad for Cora if he gets scapegoated, it's not his fault this roster is putrid and extremely flawed. 

Also Chris Sale to me almost represents everything wrong with the Sox currently. Bloated contract, always hurt, dumb stunts (like last season when he got an injury from riding his bike + also smashing the TVs in Worcester), very inconsistent. And every single season he'll get hurt to begin the year with something and then it's "oh just wait until Chris Sale comes back!". Enough. Eat some money and just trade him away. Thanks for everything but I'm all set with Sale for good. Relying on him for anything in 2024 would be super dumb, and also a joke

Trading Betts will haunt this team for a long, long time. Absolutely horrible move for the franchise in every way.

[Roy H.]

2nd straight year (and 3rd in the last 4 years) where we go into September and the season is basically over. I'm not really even paying attention to them anymore. It's a sad state the organization is in but it seems the ownership group doesn't care. Cut payroll, just be content with a team around 75-85 wins (missing playoffs) and keep talking about the future. All while other teams are making legit strides.

Bloom has also done a terrible job building this roster (the pitching staff especially, the depth is putrid) and his last three deadlines have all been inexcusable for different reasons. And outside of Story I guess (who was one of the last FAs to sign in 2022 btw) and the Devers extension, what "big/bold" moves has he made?

There'll be many options this offseason like Yamamoto, Snell, etc. or even trade possibilities. If he doesn't make a big move and it's more of the same (Garrett Richards/Kluber/Rich Hill types) then I don't even think I'll bother following in 2024. It's clear the front office + ownership don't care. I feel bad for Cora if he gets scapegoated, it's not his fault this roster is putrid and extremely flawed. 

Also Chris Sale to me almost represents everything wrong with the Sox currently. Bloated contract, always hurt, dumb stunts (like last season when he got an injury from riding his bike + also smashing the TVs in Worcester), very inconsistent. And every single season he'll get hurt to begin the year with something and then it's "oh just wait until Chris Sale comes back!". Enough. Eat some money and just trade him away. Thanks for everything but I'm all set with Sale for good. Relying on him for anything in 2024 would be super dumb, and also a joke

Trading Betts will haunt this team for a long, long time. Absolutely horrible move for the franchise in every way.

Yep.  Second worst trade in Sox history.

[green_bballers13]

Is it as simple as the owners spread themselves too thin financially? Why has this change in strategy happened? They went from a top 5 spender to a middle of the road team.

I would get it if they went full tilt at building a farm system, but they didn't. Marcelo Mayer was supposed to be the guy and he's hitting .189 in Portland. Rafaela, Nick Yorke, and Blaze Jordan are interesting, but no sure things. I think Bello is the only young pitcher I like on the squad.

Are the Red Sox resting on their laurels? Neither the big show nor the farm system seem to be flourishing or developing.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Sale is cooked at this point. And so are the Sox.

[Phantom255x]

2nd straight year (and 3rd in the last 4 years) where we go into September and the season is basically over. I'm not really even paying attention to them anymore. It's a sad state the organization is in but it seems the ownership group doesn't care. Cut payroll, just be content with a team around 75-85 wins (missing playoffs) and keep talking about the future. All while other teams are making legit strides.

Bloom has also done a terrible job building this roster (the pitching staff especially, the depth is putrid) and his last three deadlines have all been inexcusable for different reasons. And outside of Story I guess (who was one of the last FAs to sign in 2022 btw) and the Devers extension, what "big/bold" moves has he made?

There'll be many options this offseason like Yamamoto, Snell, etc. or even trade possibilities. If he doesn't make a big move and it's more of the same (Garrett Richards/Kluber/Rich Hill types) then I don't even think I'll bother following in 2024. It's clear the front office + ownership don't care. I feel bad for Cora if he gets scapegoated, it's not his fault this roster is putrid and extremely flawed. 

Also Chris Sale to me almost represents everything wrong with the Sox currently. Bloated contract, always hurt, dumb stunts (like last season when he got an injury from riding his bike + also smashing the TVs in Worcester), very inconsistent. And every single season he'll get hurt to begin the year with something and then it's "oh just wait until Chris Sale comes back!". Enough. Eat some money and just trade him away. Thanks for everything but I'm all set with Sale for good. Relying on him for anything in 2024 would be super dumb, and also a joke

As a Mets fan, all I can tell you is quit complaining.  You don’t know how good you’ve had it!

If you guys get Stearns in the offseason, I think there's a real chance the Mets are back next season

[SparzWizard]

2nd straight year (and 3rd in the last 4 years) where we go into September and the season is basically over. I'm not really even paying attention to them anymore. It's a sad state the organization is in but it seems the ownership group doesn't care. Cut payroll, just be content with a team around 75-85 wins (missing playoffs) and keep talking about the future. All while other teams are making legit strides.

Bloom has also done a terrible job building this roster (the pitching staff especially, the depth is putrid) and his last three deadlines have all been inexcusable for different reasons. And outside of Story I guess (who was one of the last FAs to sign in 2022 btw) and the Devers extension, what "big/bold" moves has he made?

There'll be many options this offseason like Yamamoto, Snell, etc. or even trade possibilities. If he doesn't make a big move and it's more of the same (Garrett Richards/Kluber/Rich Hill types) then I don't even think I'll bother following in 2024. It's clear the front office + ownership don't care. I feel bad for Cora if he gets scapegoated, it's not his fault this roster is putrid and extremely flawed. 

Also Chris Sale to me almost represents everything wrong with the Sox currently. Bloated contract, always hurt, dumb stunts (like last season when he got an injury from riding his bike + also smashing the TVs in Worcester), very inconsistent. And every single season he'll get hurt to begin the year with something and then it's "oh just wait until Chris Sale comes back!". Enough. Eat some money and just trade him away. Thanks for everything but I'm all set with Sale for good. Relying on him for anything in 2024 would be super dumb, and also a joke

Trading away Mookie Betts was arguably one of the worst out there