Woj: KD to Phoenix

[Phantom255x]

Dallas and Phoenix were aggressive. I think all of a sudden it's them and the Nuggets coming out of the West. Memphis has probably slipped barring a big move from them, and I'm not as convinced about the Kings, Clippers and Warriors (Clips and Warriors maybe, but it really depends on health; though obviously if GSW makes a run that'd be rough for us)

[Celtics2021]

One thing that this trade showed — if Brown or Tatum ever request a trade, the market should be very strong.  Even disgruntled stars command a premium.

[Kuberski33]

Lol the nets

How many guys do they have on their roster now?

If I'm their GM, the recruitment of Jaylen starts today. They've got a roster full of rotation guys. They need a star.

[angryguy77]

Lol the nets

How many guys do they have on their roster now?

If I'm their GM, the recruitment of Jaylen starts today. They've got a roster full of rotation guys. They need a star.

Give us those 4 firsts from PHO and I'll be all for it.

[Vermont Green]

Dallas and Phoenix were aggressive. I think all of a sudden it's them and the Nuggets coming out of the West. Memphis has probably slipped barring a big move from them, and I'm not as convinced about the Kings, Clippers and Warriors (Clips and Warriors maybe, but it really depends on health; though obviously if GSW makes a run that'd be rough for us)

PHO, DAL, and LAL were all aggressive, they needed to be.  They all went after risky moves.  Teams like DEN, MIL, PHI, and us do not need to be so aggressive.  There is far less reason to make highly risky deals.  But the latter group of teams still have some needs and the one that is best able to address their needs may position themselves better for the title run.

[Kuberski33]

Lol the nets

How many guys do they have on their roster now?

If I'm their GM, the recruitment of Jaylen starts today. They've got a roster full of rotation guys. They need a star.

Give us those 4 firsts from PHO and I'll be all for it.

If Jaylen decides to leave there ain't gonna be much coming back.

[Vermont Green]

Lol the nets

How many guys do they have on their roster now?

If I'm their GM, the recruitment of Jaylen starts today. They've got a roster full of rotation guys. They need a star.

Give us those 4 firsts from PHO and I'll be all for it.

Would you really?  4 picks and filler for Brown?  Or maybe 4 picks and Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson works (2 trades, Bridges for Brown and then Johnson into a TPE).  I guess if it was something like that, I give it a lot of consideration, even if it was say 2 picks and those two players.

[Moranis]

I don't really like the trade for the Nets.  They have way too many good players to really bottom out and they really aren't going to see anything from a draft pick for like 5 years.  They are going to be mediocre for awhile and then will enter a rebuild 5 years or whatever down the line.  Now maybe they still move Bridges, Johnson, Dinwiddie, etc.

The picks are great of course, I just don't like the roster.

There was no incentive for them to bottom out this year - Houston has rights to a pick swap from the Harden deal.

I like the trade - they brought in some high character hard working guys and that gives them a chance to reestablish the culture they once had under Kenny Atkinson. And of course they can flip a player or two from more picks.

It isn't about bottoming out this year (though Houston is terrible so if they end up at the bottom they will in fact get a good pick), it is about the future.  Many of the guys they have are signed long term.  They need to reset fully and they can't with the roster they have.

[blink]

Good for the Suns in making a bold move.  But man that is a lot of draft stock they just sent out.  Maybe with having KD there CP can extend his career with having to do even less than he does now?  I guess.  This deal for the suns all depends on if KD can stay healthy for 3-4 years.  If he can’t, I guess they can at least tell their fans they swung for the fence?

[Vermont Green]

I don't really like the trade for the Nets.  They have way too many good players to really bottom out and they really aren't going to see anything from a draft pick for like 5 years.  They are going to be mediocre for awhile and then will enter a rebuild 5 years or whatever down the line.  Now maybe they still move Bridges, Johnson, Dinwiddie, etc.

The picks are great of course, I just don't like the roster.

There was no incentive for them to bottom out this year - Houston has rights to a pick swap from the Harden deal.

I like the trade - they brought in some high character hard working guys and that gives them a chance to reestablish the culture they once had under Kenny Atkinson. And of course they can flip a player or two from more picks.

It isn't about bottoming out this year (though Houston is terrible so if they end up at the bottom they will in fact get a good pick), it is about the future.  Many of the guys they have are signed long term.  They need to reset fully and they can't with the roster they have.

Actually, upon further review, the Brown for Bridges swap does not work, so I don't see a way to make this happen.

[Kuberski33]

Good for the Suns in making a bold move.  But man that is a lost of draft stock they just sent out.  Maybe with having KD there CP can extend his career with having to do even less than he does now?  I guess.  This deal for the suns all depends on if KD can stay healthy for 3-4 years.  If he can’t, I guess they can at least tell their fans they swung for the fence?

I think there's a feeling around the league now that if you bottom out, you just pull an Ainge (or a Presti) and sell off your assets for a much draft capital that you can get.  Teams figure they're not going to win anyway.

[Kuberski33]

What I will say from the Phoenix perspective is that I respect their new owner for going for it. However in order to win even a conference championship you need to be able to stop the other team when it matters.  And this constantly gets overlooked by the media and I think the majority of fans.

The guy they gave up - Bridges - was a terrific defender. Someone like a Chris Paul at this stage of his career - you can attack him - all night long. Same for Booker.

You've also got some other great offensive teams in the west.  So there are no guarantees that this gets Phoenix over the top.

[Moranis]

I don't really like the trade for the Nets.  They have way too many good players to really bottom out and they really aren't going to see anything from a draft pick for like 5 years.  They are going to be mediocre for awhile and then will enter a rebuild 5 years or whatever down the line.  Now maybe they still move Bridges, Johnson, Dinwiddie, etc.

The picks are great of course, I just don't like the roster.

There was no incentive for them to bottom out this year - Houston has rights to a pick swap from the Harden deal.

I like the trade - they brought in some high character hard working guys and that gives them a chance to reestablish the culture they once had under Kenny Atkinson. And of course they can flip a player or two from more picks.

It isn't about bottoming out this year (though Houston is terrible so if they end up at the bottom they will in fact get a good pick), it is about the future.  Many of the guys they have are signed long term.  They need to reset fully and they can't with the roster they have.

Actually, upon further review, the Brown for Bridges swap does not work, so I don't see a way to make this happen.

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[Goldstar88]

The Nets really are a terrible franchise, lol. Two games out of first before the KD injury, winning 12 games in a row at one point and they blow it up by not giving Kyrie an extension.

Why did the Nets decide to let go of Durant? According to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, Durant requested that the organization make a deal with the Suns if possible, as he didn’t want to be in Brooklyn following the Kyrie Irving trade. “I think the biggest reason Kevin Durant’s no longer in Brooklyn is that he didn’t want to be in Brooklyn anymore, and he wanted to be in Phoenix.” – via Nick Schwartz @ Nets Wire

[GreenEnvy]

The Nets really are a terrible franchise, lol. Two games out of first before the KD injury, winning 12 games in a row at one point and they blow it up by not giving Kyrie an extension.

Why did the Nets decide to let go of Durant? According to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, Durant requested that the organization make a deal with the Suns if possible, as he didn’t want to be in Brooklyn following the Kyrie Irving trade. “I think the biggest reason Kevin Durant’s no longer in Brooklyn is that he didn’t want to be in Brooklyn anymore, and he wanted to be in Phoenix.” – via Nick Schwartz @ Nets Wire

I don’t blame them for not wanting to extend Kyrie. But getting nothing for Harden was the big mistake that led to this. They weren’t true contenders as constructed, and were reliant on three headcases.