Kings (10-7) at Celtics (14-4) Game #19 11/25/22

[SCeltic34]

The Kings are now sub 40% shooting, which is really impressive.  They were well above 50% after the 2nd quarter they had.

[tenn_smoothie]

Brogdon is such a smart player. I hope that our turnover-trio can learn something from him this season.
His smart decisions with the ball stand out in such contrast to some of his teammates.

Speaking of being smart, Jaylen Brown is so good with his mid-range offense.
He needs to go to that more often instead of choosing from old, bad habits like he still does at times.

[Neurotic Guy]

Kornet's been huge!

Luke playing really well.  And Payton. 

Sam and PP are weapons. 

[jpotter33]

Let's not forget - the Kings currently have just a slightly less efficient offense than us for 2nd in the NBA, and they're 7-1 in their last 8 games. Big win.

[Silas]

Unfortunately I can’t watch the game but I’m loving the score and that our bench is the real deal.

[RJ87]

Need the timeout, Joe. Clearly out of sorts on both ends.

Anyone who says a timeout wouldn’t help stop a run is ridiculous. It’s a reset. Good coaches get through to their team.

I wouldn't be saying that around here. There are a few basketball dullards on this board who will jump your case for criticizing Joe's idiotic timeout philosophy. Where were you guys the other nite when I had to argue 4 against 1 ?
Mazzula, the most inexperienced coach in the league, thinks he has found a new formula for developing his team's resilience.

I said this the other night: Mazzulla is the Cs equivalent of Steve Nash. He’s a warm body that fills the position of coach. He’s along for the ride as the players do their thing. I don’t think the players really respect him the way they did Udoka. I hope the Cs are healthy because I think their talent will carry them but I don’t expect much from Mazzulla in terms of adjustments during the playoffs. If Mazzulla just “let’s them play through it” in the playoffs, that kind of momentum shift loses you games.

You don’t think the Celtics players respect Mazz like they did Udoka. Based on what exactly? Kinda strange to be bashing the coach and his philosophy when the C’s have the best record in the NBA.

Whether it's Stevens, Ime, or Mazz, posters are going to rag on coaches no matter what. I've just learned that armchair coaches always think they know best even though they've probably never even played a game at the YMCA.

Lotsa armchair coaches here tbh, esp guys who are so stuck in past. He probably thinks with him and his genius philosopy the Celtics will be 18-0. I think those guys coaching the warriors team will probably wont a single championship. This game alone has mixed results with it comes to timeouts. Substitutions have more direct effect than timeouts for both sides. Like Ive said before, timeouts help in some cases, not all cases (like someone here assume). If they are playing bad they CAN help, but its no guarantee. Mazzulla has said that he will let them play through bad moments though so we can expect even less than that.

The most obnoxious thing about the hand wringing over timeouts is that we have no idea if this is how Mazzulla would coach in the playoffs. It's very early in the regular season - this is the time to experiment and build habits into your team. Why not see if these guys have the composure and maturity to play through rough stretches without being bailed out? See what you have so you can better prepare in the future. It's pretty basic, actually.

[RockinRyA]

Need the timeout, Joe. Clearly out of sorts on both ends.

Anyone who says a timeout wouldn’t help stop a run is ridiculous. It’s a reset. Good coaches get through to their team.

I wouldn't be saying that around here. There are a few basketball dullards on this board who will jump your case for criticizing Joe's idiotic timeout philosophy. Where were you guys the other nite when I had to argue 4 against 1 ?
Mazzula, the most inexperienced coach in the league, thinks he has found a new formula for developing his team's resilience.

I said this the other night: Mazzulla is the Cs equivalent of Steve Nash. He’s a warm body that fills the position of coach. He’s along for the ride as the players do their thing. I don’t think the players really respect him the way they did Udoka. I hope the Cs are healthy because I think their talent will carry them but I don’t expect much from Mazzulla in terms of adjustments during the playoffs. If Mazzulla just “let’s them play through it” in the playoffs, that kind of momentum shift loses you games.

You don’t think the Celtics players respect Mazz like they did Udoka. Based on what exactly? Kinda strange to be bashing the coach and his philosophy when the C’s have the best record in the NBA.

Whether it's Stevens, Ime, or Mazz, posters are going to rag on coaches no matter what. I've just learned that armchair coaches always think they know best even though they've probably never even played a game at the YMCA.

Ime was not coaching well during the first half of last season, so I could understand people complaining about it. This I don’t get. Apparently having the best record in the league isn’t good enough. lol.

His team having the best record doesn’t make him a good coach. Personally I haven’t seen anything from Mazzulla that says “Wow, great adjustment etc”. I think him not calling timeouts doesn’t really do anything for the team.

So winning games doesn’t make him a good coach…

Remember when Luc Walton won a lot of games with the Warriors while Kerr was out? Was he a good coach? All I am saying is I think the players are carrying the coach more than this coach doing anything on his end. Maybe he’ll prove me wrong in the long run. The guy got hired like 2 days before the preseason started. I don’t think he reinvented the wheel in terms of what the Cs were going to run for sets etc. He’s young and inexperienced so yes, I think it is fair to question him.

its different. Walton just continued Kerr's philosophy and the Warriors were just playing on the same level.

This case the Celtics clearly doing different things on offense, more cuts, more screen actions, faster pace. And better results than last year. Just because his philosophy doesnt align with your beliefs, you're turning blind to everything else and dismiss his contributions.

[Sophomore]

Need the timeout, Joe. Clearly out of sorts on both ends.

Anyone who says a timeout wouldn’t help stop a run is ridiculous. It’s a reset. Good coaches get through to their team.

I wouldn't be saying that around here. There are a few basketball dullards on this board who will jump your case for criticizing Joe's idiotic timeout philosophy. Where were you guys the other nite when I had to argue 4 against 1 ?
Mazzula, the most inexperienced coach in the league, thinks he has found a new formula for developing his team's resilience.

I said this the other night: Mazzulla is the Cs equivalent of Steve Nash. He’s a warm body that fills the position of coach. He’s along for the ride as the players do their thing. I don’t think the players really respect him the way they did Udoka. I hope the Cs are healthy because I think their talent will carry them but I don’t expect much from Mazzulla in terms of adjustments during the playoffs. If Mazzulla just “let’s them play through it” in the playoffs, that kind of momentum shift loses you games.

You don’t think the Celtics players respect Mazz like they did Udoka. Based on what exactly? Kinda strange to be bashing the coach and his philosophy when the C’s have the best record in the NBA.

Whether it's Stevens, Ime, or Mazz, posters are going to rag on coaches no matter what. I've just learned that armchair coaches always think they know best even though they've probably never even played a game at the YMCA.

Ime was not coaching well during the first half of last season, so I could understand people complaining about it. This I don’t get. Apparently having the best record in the league isn’t good enough. lol.

His team having the best record doesn’t make him a good coach. Personally I haven’t seen anything from Mazzulla that says “Wow, great adjustment etc”. I think him not calling timeouts doesn’t really do anything for the team.

So winning games doesn’t make him a good coach…

Remember when Luc Walton won a lot of games with the Warriors while Kerr was out? Was he a good coach? All I am saying is I think the players are carrying the coach more than this coach doing anything on his end. Maybe he’ll prove me wrong in the long run. The guy got hired like 2 days before the preseason started. I don’t think he reinvented the wheel in terms of what the Cs were going to run for sets etc. He’s young and inexperienced so yes, I think it is fair to question him.

Of course it’s fair to ask questions. But the criticism lacks perspective. From the tone you’d think the team was seriously underachieving. They’re obviously not.

[ozgod]

It’s great that they’ve been able to “flip the switch” and blow the kings away with a burst, but in a way it makes me nervous thst they will start to think they can do that all the time 

[Sophomore]

Sabonis and Smart really getting chippy all game. Marcus gets the better of him.

[ozgod]

This run is 35-4. Kings havre tried 3 timeouts to stop it now to no avail

[Sophomore]

It’s great that they’ve been able to “flip the switch” and blow the kings away with a burst, but in a way it makes me nervous thst they will start to think they can do that all the time 

For sure. I remember having the same feeling about some of the 80s Celtics teams.

[SCeltic34]

This run is 35-4. Kings havre tried 3 timeouts to stop it now to no avail

Payton Pritchard laughs at their pathetic attempts to stop their inevitable demise.

[Neurotic Guy]

An explosion when it seemed C's were going nowhere tonight. Sparked by the bench as some here were calling.    Glad they showed another gear tonight though not crazy about the let downs. Can't just expect to turn it up on demand.  Not the '86 Celtics.

[Silas]

This run is 35-4. Kings havre tried 3 timeouts to stop it now to no avail

Obviously their coach does not know when to use a TO!