NBA Season 2022-23

[gouki88]

Just saw somebody's Top 10 players in 5 years times

1. Luka Doncic
2. Victor Wembanyama
3. Jayson Tatum
4. Zion Williamson
5. Giannis
6. Nikola Jokic

Doncic being #1 is a stretch, plays no defense whatsoever. Wembanyama who hasn't sniffed a single second in the NBA is already above Tatum, wow. Zion is above Giannis and Jokic? I think that guy's list is a joke lol.

Jokic and Giannis at least belongs in the Top 3 with Tatum. Then we can debate who should be number 1.

I always find these kinds of lists a bit silly. Did many think Jokic would be the best player in the world in 2018? Or Tatum as a top 5 level guy?

I thought Tatum had the top 5 potential after his rookie season, I think that was a majority position at the time, especially around here.

I remember most people disagreeing with me saying he had Durant-ish potential. Thought the consensus was somewhere between Melo and PG13

[Birdman]

Victor being, what, 7-3 & very slim has me concern bout playing a full season..look at Holmgren already

[Celtics2021]

Victor being, what, 7-3 & very slim has me concern bout playing a full season..look at Holmgren already

Would you rather he have Zion's build?  He's listed at 230 pounds, which is way more than Holmgren, and he'll probably fill out a little more.

[celticsclay]

He’s the worst..

Draymond Green is glad to see Celtics fans suffer

“Boston Celtics fans will make excuses, and I ain’t hearing none of that. Because y’all rude, and I’m happy y’all lost,” Green said. “Not happy JT lost, but Boston Celtics fans, especially those of you that are in that arena.” Green didn’t stop there. The 33-year-old went on to critique the Celtics’ Game 7 performance. “The Boston Celtics are who we thought they were. They got to the moment, and they did not look like they were ready for the moment,” Green said. – via Sports Illustrated

What's Draymond doing? Fishing I guess. Hit anyone lately Draymond?

That's interesting for two reasons.  1.  I get the fan critique, but why'd he add the last bit about the players?  I thought he was friends with JT and JB, in particular; and 2.  What's his excuse for why the Warriors lost to the Lakers?

4 rings.

When out of those 4 rings, three different players win Finals MVP and you aren’t one of them… you’re basically a role player.

so is Klay Thompson a role player? or Manu Ginobili?

So klay Thompson in his current form? Yeah he is definitely a role player now. He didn’t receive a single vote for all NBA and wasn’t anywhere near being an all star (37 players received a vote for reference). When klay was making all star games and all nba thought I definitely would have called him a star. His decline along with draymonds is why the team went from champions to second round exit. Manu is interesting, but I think most people would categorize him as a super elite role player for the majority of his career. If the other options are superstar or star, I would call him a star at his peak when he made all nba third team.

[celticsclay]

Lakers remain uninterested in irving. Seems they did actually learn something from the west room debacle

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271818/Lakers-Remain-Uninterested-In-Adding-Kyrie-Irving

[Goldstar88]

Damian Lillard on future in Portland: If we don't use our assets to build a competitive team, a separate conversation will need to be had

Clutch Points: “I want to have an opportunity to win in Portland… We got an opportunity, asset-wise, to build a team that can compete. If we can’t do that… then it’s a separate conversation we would have to have” Damian Lillard on the Blazers’ future (via @SHOsports)

[celticsclay]

Damian Lillard on future in Portland: If we don't use our assets to build a competitive team, a separate conversation will need to be had

Clutch Points: “I want to have an opportunity to win in Portland… We got an opportunity, asset-wise, to build a team that can compete. If we can’t do that… then it’s a separate conversation we would have to have” Damian Lillard on the Blazers’ future (via @SHOsports)

Report also came out recently that they consider sharpe untouchable. Lilliard trade actually seems possible now

[Goldstar88]

Damian Lillard on future in Portland: If we don't use our assets to build a competitive team, a separate conversation will need to be had

Clutch Points: “I want to have an opportunity to win in Portland… We got an opportunity, asset-wise, to build a team that can compete. If we can’t do that… then it’s a separate conversation we would have to have” Damian Lillard on the Blazers’ future (via @SHOsports)

Report also came out recently that they consider sharpe untouchable. Lilliard trade actually seems possible now

I’d give him a 2 year window before his game starts dropping off. Small guards don’t age well and he’s going to be 33 next month. Portland would be wise to move on at this point.

[Moranis]

Damian Lillard on future in Portland: If we don't use our assets to build a competitive team, a separate conversation will need to be had

Clutch Points: “I want to have an opportunity to win in Portland… We got an opportunity, asset-wise, to build a team that can compete. If we can’t do that… then it’s a separate conversation we would have to have” Damian Lillard on the Blazers’ future (via @SHOsports)

Report also came out recently that they consider sharpe untouchable. Lilliard trade actually seems possible now

The reporting I've read is they won't include Sharpe in a trade that also includes 3, not that they wouldn't trade Sharpe.  They just don't want to lose both in the same deal.  So basically, they want to keep 1 of their 2 prime assets, but are seemingly willing to trade 1 of them (and presumably Simons).

[Moranis]

I still really like the 3 team trade I've proposed a few times over the last few weeks.

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic, Griffin
Atlanta - Brown, Smart, Sharpe
Portland - Young, Collins, Bey/Okongwu

or a slightly different variation

Boston - Lillard, Collins, Little
Atlanta - Smart, Brown, Kornet
Portland - Young, Gallinari, Pritchard

[Goldstar88]

I still really like the 3 team trade I've proposed a few times over the last few weeks.

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic, Griffin
Atlanta - Brown, Smart, Sharpe
Portland - Young, Collins, Bey/Okongwu

or a slightly different variation

Boston - Lillard, Collins, Little
Atlanta - Smart, Brown, Kornet
Portland - Young, Gallinari, Pritchard

You’d be comfortable with a 2 year window?

[Moranis]

I still really like the 3 team trade I've proposed a few times over the last few weeks.

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic, Griffin
Atlanta - Brown, Smart, Sharpe
Portland - Young, Collins, Bey/Okongwu

or a slightly different variation

Boston - Lillard, Collins, Little
Atlanta - Smart, Brown, Kornet
Portland - Young, Gallinari, Pritchard

You’d be comfortable with a 2 year window?

Is Tatum leaving in 2 years?

[celticsclay]

I still really like the 3 team trade I've proposed a few times over the last few weeks.

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic, Griffin
Atlanta - Brown, Smart, Sharpe
Portland - Young, Collins, Bey/Okongwu

or a slightly different variation

Boston - Lillard, Collins, Little
Atlanta - Smart, Brown, Kornet
Portland - Young, Gallinari, Pritchard

You’d be comfortable with a 2 year window?

This is my real concern with this trade. It would be very exciting for next year, but I’m concerned Lilliard has had some injury issues the last few years. The back part of this contract could end up being an anchor. It also seems like Tatum really likes smart and jaylen.

[Goldstar88]

I still really like the 3 team trade I've proposed a few times over the last few weeks.

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic, Griffin
Atlanta - Brown, Smart, Sharpe
Portland - Young, Collins, Bey/Okongwu

or a slightly different variation

Boston - Lillard, Collins, Little
Atlanta - Smart, Brown, Kornet
Portland - Young, Gallinari, Pritchard

You’d be comfortable with a 2 year window?

Is Tatum leaving in 2 years?

Tatum and an over the hill Lillard isn’t going to get it done. Again, you comfortable with a 2 year window? That’s what they’d likely have.

[celticsclay]

Damian Lillard on future in Portland: If we don't use our assets to build a competitive team, a separate conversation will need to be had

Clutch Points: “I want to have an opportunity to win in Portland… We got an opportunity, asset-wise, to build a team that can compete. If we can’t do that… then it’s a separate conversation we would have to have” Damian Lillard on the Blazers’ future (via @SHOsports)

Report also came out recently that they consider sharpe untouchable. Lilliard trade actually seems possible now

The reporting I've read is they won't include Sharpe in a trade that also includes 3, not that they wouldn't trade Sharpe.  They just don't want to lose both in the same deal.  So basically, they want to keep 1 of their 2 prime assets, but are seemingly willing to trade 1 of them (and presumably Simons).

This is what I saw today. Don’t know if it is accurate obviously https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271828/Blazers-Making-Shaedon-Sharpe-Untouchable-In-Trade-Talks