I think he’s trying to help his team get in the right headspace so there isn’t a repeat of 2018-2019 or 2020-2021.  The last two deep playoff runs led by Tatum and Brown have been followed up by disappointing seasons, so it would be nice to break that trend.

I think he’s trying to help his team get in the right headspace so there isn’t a repeat of 2018-2019 or 2020-2021.  The last two deep playoff runs led by Tatum and Brown have been followed up by disappointing seasons, so it would be nice to break that trend.

Agreed. I like it!

Kind of agree with Wyc.

I think if Gallo had been injured before the Fournier TPE expired, we would have used it.  Gallo injury has changed my prognosis for the team.

if the 7th or 8th man getting hurt alters your entire outlook for the season then the team wasn't good enough before the injury.

I think he’s trying to help his team get in the right headspace so there isn’t a repeat of 2018-2019 or 2020-2021.  The last two deep playoff runs led by Tatum and Brown have been followed up by disappointing seasons, so it would be nice to break that trend.

That may be fair.  But if you're a player, doesn't part of you say "then why didn't you bring in better players?"  I mean, I assume that our veterans are pretty knowledgeable dudes.  Can they really be happy with a 20 man training camp roster that includes:

Kornet (maybe, seems like a good dude in the locker room)
Hauser (maybe, he's got one elite skill)
Davidson (maybe, he's on a two-way and has potential)
Kabengele (maybe, he's on a two-way and has potential, and maybe Dikembe will visit)

Cabolco
Vonleh
Jackson
Thomas
Valentine
Layman

20 spots, 1 injured for the season, 10 scrubs, only 4 of them with any sort of decent NBA potential.

If I was a player reading those comments, I think I'd be giving a big middle finger to the team's self-imposed spending cap and strategy of bringing in end-of-roster crap.

Quote from: Celtics2021 on September 16, 2022, 02:30:27 PM

I think he’s trying to help his team get in the right headspace so there isn’t a repeat of 2018-2019 or 2020-2021.  The last two deep playoff runs led by Tatum and Brown have been followed up by disappointing seasons, so it would be nice to break that trend.

That may be fair.  But if you're a player, doesn't part of you say "then why didn't you bring in better players?"  I mean, I assume that our veterans are pretty knowledgeable dudes.  Can they really be happy with a 20 man training camp roster that includes:

Kornet (maybe, seems like a good dude in the locker room)
Hauser (maybe, he's got one elite skill)
Davidson (maybe, he's on a two-way and has potential)
Kabengele (maybe, he's on a two-way and has potential, and maybe Dikembe will visit)

Cabolco
Vonleh
Jackson
Thomas
Valentine
Layman

20 spots, 1 injured for the season, 10 scrubs, only 4 of them with any sort of decent NBA potential.

If I was a player reading those comments, I think I'd be giving a big middle finger to the team's self-imposed spending cap and strategy of bringing in end-of-roster crap.

I don’t know, maybe the players like having a pretty clear rotation heading into the season for once.  Also, the “scrubs” are largely players the same age or older than the Js, so they’re professionals filling out the back of a roster rather than kids who don’t know how to handle the NBA.

I’m fine with the roster for now.  I think we’ll be fine in the early season and there will be a move or two made in January and February to shore up the spots that need help.  It’s a bummer Gallo got hurt, but I’m excited for Hauser to get 10-15 minutes a game.

Quote from: Wyc

“I loved being right there with them. It was thrilling. The other side of the coin is I think that we’ve now been overrated,” Grousbeck told Himmelsbach. “I think that performance was a bit overrated in the public mind, or my own mind, because I’m the one saying it. [We were] a finalist and two wins away from winning it, but when you look back, Brooklyn was a tough series, and then we had to go seven games [against the Bucks and Heat]. Then we lost [to Golden State].

So, we’re not a hands-down team to repeat as Eastern Conference champions. I think we’re a quality team.”

Wyc admits he is tamping down expectations.  Why?  And if he knows that we are not good enough to be favorites, why not use the TPE?  Why fill out every single training camp spot with a dumpster dive?

I wonder if it's Wyc not using it, or Brad choosing not to use it because he doesn't think he will find anyone worth the total cost of it (or even half the cost of it). Brad may think it's better to hold on to it now and then use it later on, before they expire early next year. Figure out how the current lineup goes before spending $20+ million (including tax) on each TPE for what may end up being another end of bench guy.

Agree on the comments above about putting the team in the right headspace.

Maybe it’s because I lean pessimistic/motivate myself the same way, but I also agree with Wyc’s analysis as a statement of fact. We got healthy at the right time while others did not. We have to prove it (and maybe get a little lucky again).