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Danny's biggest regret, not drafting Brogdon
« on: July 13, 2022, 06:24:56 PM »

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 Passed on Malcolm not one, not two, not three, but Five times in the 2016 nba draft.

This was from CLNS recently I've been watchin all their content. Danny actually admitted to his regrets which we never got to hear.

Brown was taken third Great pick
Yabu taken 16th
Zizic 23rd
And the 31st pick and 35th picks were traded and Brogdon went 36th. If we would have just gotten Brown and Brogdon what a homerun draft.

Re: Danny's biggest regret, not drafting Brogdon
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2022, 06:25:44 PM »

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Re: Danny's biggest regret, not drafting Brogdon
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2022, 06:50:27 PM »

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Giannis and Butler and Joker have to be biggest regrets of a lot of GMs. Brogdon nahh

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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2022, 07:00:20 PM »

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 This isn't my opinion, this is straight from the fish's mouth.  You have to look at context here, he passed on Brogdon literally five times and to make it worse drafted Zizic and Yabu freaking Sele over him!

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Siakam and Murray were last 1st round picks that draft.  They'd seemingly be a bigger miss. 

But imagine basically a perfect draft

Brown at 3
LeVert at 16 (he was far more reasonable than Murray that high so I went with him even though Murray is better)
Siakam at 23
Zubac at 31
Brogdon at 35
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Siakam and Murray were last 1st round picks that draft.  They'd seemingly be a bigger miss. 

But imagine basically a perfect draft

Brown at 3
LeVert at 16 (he was far more reasonable than Murray that high so I went with him even though Murray is better)
Siakam at 23
Zubac at 31
Brogdon at 35

Murray was a projected end of lottery pick, so 16 would have been reasonable.  We probably don’t double dip and draft two PGs, though.

Even if we’d still made the second rounders trade, Brown / Murray / Siakim would have been epic.


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Siakam and Murray were last 1st round picks that draft.  They'd seemingly be a bigger miss. 

But imagine basically a perfect draft

Brown at 3
LeVert at 16 (he was far more reasonable than Murray that high so I went with him even though Murray is better)
Siakam at 23
Zubac at 31
Brogdon at 35

Murray was a projected end of lottery pick, so 16 would have been reasonable.  We probably don’t double dip and draft two PGs, though.

Even if we’d still made the second rounders trade, Brown / Murray / Siakim would have been epic.
all the more reason to curse Danny for p--- poor asset managing going into that draft where he was basically forced to use 2 firsts on draft and stash players rather than on players that were BPA at those picks. 

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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2022, 11:41:25 PM »

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Giannis and Butler and Joker have to be biggest regrets of a lot of GMs. Brogdon nahh

Butler we were actually connected to.

Giannis also.

Doubtful about the Joker.

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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2022, 01:06:21 AM »

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 This isn't my opinion, this is straight from the fish's mouth.  You have to look at context here, he passed on Brogdon literally five times and to make it worse drafted Zizic and Yabu freaking Sele over him!
I imagine this is the case because DA either had him rated a certain way or wanted to but didn’t do it for some reason.  He probably never really considered Giannis.  So it’s a miss in his mind, not a regret.

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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2022, 08:42:43 AM »

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Siakam and Murray were last 1st round picks that draft.  They'd seemingly be a bigger miss. 

But imagine basically a perfect draft

Brown at 3
LeVert at 16 (he was far more reasonable than Murray that high so I went with him even though Murray is better)
Siakam at 23
Zubac at 31
Brogdon at 35

Murray was a projected end of lottery pick, so 16 would have been reasonable.  We probably don’t double dip and draft two PGs, though.

Even if we’d still made the second rounders trade, Brown / Murray / Siakim would have been epic.
all the more reason to curse Danny for p--- poor asset managing going into that draft where he was basically forced to use 2 firsts on draft and stash players rather than on players that were BPA at those picks.
except he wasn't because we kept 2nd round Demetrius Jackson on the actual roster. 

extending it further, you know since Boston also had 3 later 2nd round picks

Boston could have also had

45 - Georges Niang
51 - Fred VanVleet
58 - Dorian Finney-Smith

Also available as undrafted players - Alex Caruso, Damion Lee, Gary Payton, Yogi Ferrell
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2022, 08:46:41 AM »

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Siakam and Murray were last 1st round picks that draft.  They'd seemingly be a bigger miss. 

But imagine basically a perfect draft

Brown at 3
LeVert at 16 (he was far more reasonable than Murray that high so I went with him even though Murray is better)
Siakam at 23
Zubac at 31
Brogdon at 35

Murray was a projected end of lottery pick, so 16 would have been reasonable.  We probably don’t double dip and draft two PGs, though.

Even if we’d still made the second rounders trade, Brown / Murray / Siakim would have been epic.
all the more reason to curse Danny for p--- poor asset managing going into that draft where he was basically forced to use 2 firsts on draft and stash players rather than on players that were BPA at those picks.
except he wasn't because we kept 2nd round Demetrius Jackson on the actual roster. 

extending it further, you know since Boston also had 3 later 2nd round picks

Boston could have also had

45 - Georges Niang
51 - Fred VanVleet
58 - Dorian Finney-Smith

Also available as undrafted players - Alex Caruso, Damion Lee, Gary Payton, Yogi Ferrell

I don't really fault him for missing on the second rounders, since those are a dice roll. 

But, I do agree:  Danny was too hyper-focused on roster spots.  We overreached for "stashes" while keeping Jackson, Mickey and James Young on the roster.  I didn't like the Yabu pick at the time.  I was okay with Zizic, but obviously that was a miss too.


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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2022, 08:51:50 AM »

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There is a long list of regrets I am sure.   

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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2022, 08:54:38 AM »

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Siakam and Murray were last 1st round picks that draft.  They'd seemingly be a bigger miss. 

But imagine basically a perfect draft

Brown at 3
LeVert at 16 (he was far more reasonable than Murray that high so I went with him even though Murray is better)
Siakam at 23
Zubac at 31
Brogdon at 35

Murray was a projected end of lottery pick, so 16 would have been reasonable.  We probably don’t double dip and draft two PGs, though.

Even if we’d still made the second rounders trade, Brown / Murray / Siakim would have been epic.
all the more reason to curse Danny for p--- poor asset managing going into that draft where he was basically forced to use 2 firsts on draft and stash players rather than on players that were BPA at those picks.
except he wasn't because we kept 2nd round Demetrius Jackson on the actual roster. 

extending it further, you know since Boston also had 3 later 2nd round picks

Boston could have also had

45 - Georges Niang
51 - Fred VanVleet
58 - Dorian Finney-Smith

Also available as undrafted players - Alex Caruso, Damion Lee, Gary Payton, Yogi Ferrell

I don't really fault him for missing on the second rounders, since those are a dice roll. 

But, I do agree:  Danny was too hyper-focused on roster spots.  We overreached for "stashes" while keeping Jackson, Mickey and James Young on the roster.  I didn't like the Yabu pick at the time.  I was okay with Zizic, but obviously that was a miss too.
agreed.  not going to give him grief over second rounders -- he's hit on a decent amount.  the Yabu pick was bungled pure and simple.  a number of spots on that roster held for less deserving players when we could have had a really solid prospect at that spot.  just royally botched asset management

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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2022, 10:12:26 AM »

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Siakam and Murray were last 1st round picks that draft.  They'd seemingly be a bigger miss. 

But imagine basically a perfect draft

Brown at 3
LeVert at 16 (he was far more reasonable than Murray that high so I went with him even though Murray is better)
Siakam at 23
Zubac at 31
Brogdon at 35

Murray was a projected end of lottery pick, so 16 would have been reasonable.  We probably don’t double dip and draft two PGs, though.

Even if we’d still made the second rounders trade, Brown / Murray / Siakim would have been epic.
all the more reason to curse Danny for p--- poor asset managing going into that draft where he was basically forced to use 2 firsts on draft and stash players rather than on players that were BPA at those picks.
except he wasn't because we kept 2nd round Demetrius Jackson on the actual roster. 

extending it further, you know since Boston also had 3 later 2nd round picks

Boston could have also had

45 - Georges Niang
51 - Fred VanVleet
58 - Dorian Finney-Smith

Also available as undrafted players - Alex Caruso, Damion Lee, Gary Payton, Yogi Ferrell

I don't really fault him for missing on the second rounders, since those are a dice roll. 

But, I do agree:  Danny was too hyper-focused on roster spots.  We overreached for "stashes" while keeping Jackson, Mickey and James Young on the roster.  I didn't like the Yabu pick at the time.  I was okay with Zizic, but obviously that was a miss too.
Oh that wasn't a shot at Danny on the late 2nd rounders, I had just played out the best draft for the first 5 picks, so figured I'd add the next 3 as well, but the knock on Danny for that draft was going into it with 8 picks.  That is where he mismanaged the draft and it created all these weird things.

I also don't see why he took 2 draft and stash players in the 1st round, the first of which was a huge reach, only to keep a mid-2nd round pick on the roster.  If it wasn't a roster issue, why the heck did he take both Yabu and Zizic. 

One of the greatest what if's from that draft, was could Danny have taken the Sixers trade offer for 3 that was rumored to be Noel, Covington, 24 and 26, and then packaged 16, 23, and 24 and moved up to 8 to potentially still land Brown (the Sixers wanted Dunn so there is a real chance Brown would have slipped to 8 ). 
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