Think the Wizards would love a Smart/White, Nesmith, and boatload of picks package for Beal lol?

White was underwhelming to me. He had a great stretch between Game 4 of the Heat series to Game 1 of the Finals but besides that he was fairly mediocre and at times cost us too with his poor shooting and turnovers.

I wouldn't hate keeping Smart and White if we can find other avenues to add some talent or even just good bench players. I think they may keep White only because he can backup Smart pretty well. He did fill in nicely for Smart for a few games when Smart was out during the postseason.

But if they make a big trade and need some salary to facilitate it, Smart/White will definitely be part of it. I personally think the only untouchables on the C's is Jaylen and Tatum (no, the C's aren't trading Jaylen for picks or even a guy like Beal - that's a lateral move for the most part and does nothing).

compatible?  I wouldn't play them together since neither one is a reliable scorer.  i have no issues using one or both in a deal to bring in a real PG that can score, defend reasonably well and run a half court offense such that Tatum and Brown aren't required to be the primary playmakers because that just isn't working

Think the Wizards would love a Smart/White, Nesmith, and boatload of picks package for Beal lol?

White was underwhelming to me. He had a great stretch between Game 4 of the Heat series to Game 1 of the Finals but besides that he was fairly mediocre and at times cost us too with his poor shooting and turnovers.

I wouldn't hate keeping Smart and White if we can find other avenues to add some talent or even just good bench players. I think they may keep White only because he can backup Smart pretty well. He did fill in nicely for Smart for a few games when Smart was out during the postseason.

But if they make a big trade and need some salary to facilitate it, Smart/White will definitely be part of it. I personally think the only untouchables on the C's is Jaylen and Tatum (no, the C's aren't trading Jaylen for picks or even a guy like Beal - that's a lateral move for the most part and does nothing).

that is how i see it. keep JB and JT. everybody else is expendable as LONG as it UPGRADES THE TEAM. do i want to lose smart and timelord? NO. but if we can get better return to make whole team better then you trade them. all this g league trash on bench needs to be moved also even if for basketballs and basketballs racks for shootaround, we need quality not quantity. 

I think they're compatible. Are they the best option for this team moving forward?  Different question.
While I like White, I also can see why San Antonio decided they could trade him.  His game has a few holes and he's not consistent enough to start for a team looking to win a title.

As someone else mentioned, Smart is what he is. Like Tatum, he'd have benefited by getting a little more help from the other Celtics role players. But at this point you know exactly what you're getting from him.

I thought overall he had a good season. When he decided to focus on being a point guard, the team got a lot better.

The problem with having so many great and interchangeable defensive parts is the offense suffers tremendously as very few players are well rounded and good enough at both to be able to play with anyone.  Tatum is obviously that and Brown is as well, though Brown being a poor creator really hampers the offense, especially when the J's are the only 2 even good all around offensive players.  No one else checks all the boxes i.e. shooter, creator, handler, etc. 

Smart and White really shouldn't play much together because then the offense is horrible as neither one is a good enough shooter to be truly effective.  And frankly, while they are both good creators neither one is great at that. 

So yeah, as I've said elsewhere, I think you have to trade Smart and upgrade that 3rd position with a much better offensive player.  I'd prefer a big guy like Collins, but if you could get someone like Brogdon, I think he makes sense even though he is a bit older. 

Quote from: Phantom255x on June 17, 2022, 11:39:21 AM

Think the Wizards would love a Smart/White, Nesmith, and boatload of picks package for Beal lol?

White was underwhelming to me. He had a great stretch between Game 4 of the Heat series to Game 1 of the Finals but besides that he was fairly mediocre and at times cost us too with his poor shooting and turnovers.

I wouldn't hate keeping Smart and White if we can find other avenues to add some talent or even just good bench players. I think they may keep White only because he can backup Smart pretty well. He did fill in nicely for Smart for a few games when Smart was out during the postseason.

But if they make a big trade and need some salary to facilitate it, Smart/White will definitely be part of it. I personally think the only untouchables on the C's is Jaylen and Tatum (no, the C's aren't trading Jaylen for picks or even a guy like Beal - that's a lateral move for the most part and does nothing).

I think Tatum, Brown, Smart, and Williams are off the table in terms of trades.

I think Smart is the one of those that could be put on the table.

I wouldn't say he's light years better than White, but he is better, and is probably on a somewhat better contract for what he brings. But I think if White is your starting PG you have a question mark at that position headed into the new season along with the fear that you're going to be below average there compared to the teams you'll be trying to beat out for the conference title.