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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Warriors (0-0) The Finals Game #1 6/2/22
« Reply #1395 on: June 03, 2022, 04:10:35 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

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« Reply #1396 on: June 03, 2022, 06:28:22 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

Not sure why he can't just give the Celtics credit. It's as if the Celtics are "beneath" the warriors. I hope Ime is playing these comments every day to the Celtics "hey golden state doesn't think you can do this again"

Even the first quarter I wouldn't say was domination. Up by 4. Ended the half down 2.

Re: Celtics (0-0) at Warriors (0-0) The Finals Game #1 6/2/22
« Reply #1397 on: June 03, 2022, 06:43:09 PM »

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Tatum missing one thing, killer instinct..Bird, Magic, Kobe, Jordan had it..when he gets it, no one stopping him
I don't think this is true at all.  Tatum is learning to play within Ime's system which requires ball movement to the open man.  He did this perfectly with a career high 13 assists.
I would go a step further too. For two of those guys listed (Magic & Kobe) there were still bad performances in important games. Remember Tragic Johnson? Or Kobe's garbage play in the 2004 Finals? Could go on, but the point is that these people's bad performances are overlooked because they were so successful.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Warriors (0-0) The Finals Game #1 6/2/22
« Reply #1398 on: June 03, 2022, 07:22:34 PM »

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I absolutely loved that the refs let both teams play last night. So refreshing and it especially made for such a fun battle in the 2nd half. Wish the entire postseason was like that.

With that said though, I fear the refs could become a factor in Game 2 and they'll definitely favor Golden State and help them try to even the series. That especially looks true if Scott "the extender" Foster goes tomorrow. So the C's need to stay vigilant and hopefully Tatum can bounceback and have a big game
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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Warriors (0-0) The Finals Game #1 6/2/22
« Reply #1399 on: June 03, 2022, 07:27:15 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

Not sure why he can't just give the Celtics credit. It's as if the Celtics are "beneath" the warriors. I hope Ime is playing these comments every day to the Celtics "hey golden state doesn't think you can do this again"

Even the first quarter I wouldn't say was domination. Up by 4. Ended the half down 2.

Draymond is a byproduct of peak Steph/Klay. He showed us who he is without them; a jag. He's never shown much intelligence publicly so my suggestion to him is keep throwing the shade.

Re: Celtics (0-0) at Warriors (0-0) The Finals Game #1 6/2/22
« Reply #1400 on: June 03, 2022, 07:32:06 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

Yeah, I mean, we were up at halftime, and the Warriors got historically crushed in the 4th quarter. They basically won the 3rd quarter and thats it.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Warriors (0-0) The Finals Game #1 6/2/22
« Reply #1401 on: June 03, 2022, 07:38:13 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

Not sure why he can't just give the Celtics credit. It's as if the Celtics are "beneath" the warriors. I hope Ime is playing these comments every day to the Celtics "hey golden state doesn't think you can do this again"

Even the first quarter I wouldn't say was domination. Up by 4. Ended the half down 2.

Draymond is a byproduct of peak Steph/Klay. He showed us who he is without them; a jag. He's never shown much intelligence publicly so my suggestion to him is keep throwing the shade.
I think this is completely incorrect. He is one of the biggest ceiling raisers in the NBA. Golden State have essentially been a .500 team in games he's missed since he was drafted, compared to ~.700 when he plays. Without him they never win anything.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Warriors (0-0) The Finals Game #1 6/2/22
« Reply #1402 on: June 03, 2022, 07:41:29 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

Not sure why he can't just give the Celtics credit. It's as if the Celtics are "beneath" the warriors. I hope Ime is playing these comments every day to the Celtics "hey golden state doesn't think you can do this again"

Even the first quarter I wouldn't say was domination. Up by 4. Ended the half down 2.

Draymond is a byproduct of peak Steph/Klay. He showed us who he is without them; a jag. He's never shown much intelligence publicly so my suggestion to him is keep throwing the shade.
I think this is completely incorrect. He is one of the biggest ceiling raisers in the NBA. Golden State have essentially been a .500 team in games he's missed since he was drafted, compared to ~.700 when he plays. Without him they never win anything.

Completely disagree. He's a complementary piece not a star and his reputation entirely depends on those two being who they are. Without them, he's thoroughly average.

Re: Celtics (0-0) at Warriors (0-0) The Finals Game #1 6/2/22
« Reply #1403 on: June 03, 2022, 07:47:03 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

Not sure why he can't just give the Celtics credit. It's as if the Celtics are "beneath" the warriors. I hope Ime is playing these comments every day to the Celtics "hey golden state doesn't think you can do this again"

Even the first quarter I wouldn't say was domination. Up by 4. Ended the half down 2.

Draymond is a byproduct of peak Steph/Klay. He showed us who he is without them; a jag. He's never shown much intelligence publicly so my suggestion to him is keep throwing the shade.
I think this is completely incorrect. He is one of the biggest ceiling raisers in the NBA. Golden State have essentially been a .500 team in games he's missed since he was drafted, compared to ~.700 when he plays. Without him they never win anything.

Completely disagree. He's a complementary piece not a star and his reputation entirely depends on those two being who they are. Without them, he's thoroughly average.
Sure, but without him their team is thoroughly average. That's the point. He is not an excellent individual player, but he is their 2nd most important player.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Warriors (0-0) The Finals Game #1 6/2/22
« Reply #1404 on: June 03, 2022, 07:48:38 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

Not sure why he can't just give the Celtics credit. It's as if the Celtics are "beneath" the warriors. I hope Ime is playing these comments every day to the Celtics "hey golden state doesn't think you can do this again"

Even the first quarter I wouldn't say was domination. Up by 4. Ended the half down 2.

Draymond is a byproduct of peak Steph/Klay. He showed us who he is without them; a jag. He's never shown much intelligence publicly so my suggestion to him is keep throwing the shade.
I think this is completely incorrect. He is one of the biggest ceiling raisers in the NBA. Golden State have essentially been a .500 team in games he's missed since he was drafted, compared to ~.700 when he plays. Without him they never win anything.

Completely disagree. He's a complementary piece not a star and his reputation entirely depends on those two being who they are. Without them, he's thoroughly average.
Draymond is one the same scale and quality of player as Smart. They have a lot of similarities. If Draymond is a JAG, then so is Smart.

I don't think either are JAGs, but maybe a couple of the best defenders and glue guys of the past 20 years.

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« Reply #1405 on: June 03, 2022, 07:50:56 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

Not sure why he can't just give the Celtics credit. It's as if the Celtics are "beneath" the warriors. I hope Ime is playing these comments every day to the Celtics "hey golden state doesn't think you can do this again"

Even the first quarter I wouldn't say was domination. Up by 4. Ended the half down 2.

Draymond is a byproduct of peak Steph/Klay. He showed us who he is without them; a jag. He's never shown much intelligence publicly so my suggestion to him is keep throwing the shade.
I think this is completely incorrect. He is one of the biggest ceiling raisers in the NBA. Golden State have essentially been a .500 team in games he's missed since he was drafted, compared to ~.700 when he plays. Without him they never win anything.

Completely disagree. He's a complementary piece not a star and his reputation entirely depends on those two being who they are. Without them, he's thoroughly average.
Draymond is one the same scale and quality of player as Smart. They have a lot of similarities. If Draymond is a JAG, then so is Smart.

I don't think either are JAGs, but maybe a couple of the best defenders and glue guys of the past 20 years.

Smart has developed an offensive game, Draymond never had one. There's no comparison.

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« Reply #1406 on: June 03, 2022, 07:57:08 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

Not sure why he can't just give the Celtics credit. It's as if the Celtics are "beneath" the warriors. I hope Ime is playing these comments every day to the Celtics "hey golden state doesn't think you can do this again"

Even the first quarter I wouldn't say was domination. Up by 4. Ended the half down 2.

Draymond is a byproduct of peak Steph/Klay. He showed us who he is without them; a jag. He's never shown much intelligence publicly so my suggestion to him is keep throwing the shade.
I think this is completely incorrect. He is one of the biggest ceiling raisers in the NBA. Golden State have essentially been a .500 team in games he's missed since he was drafted, compared to ~.700 when he plays. Without him they never win anything.

Completely disagree. He's a complementary piece not a star and his reputation entirely depends on those two being who they are. Without them, he's thoroughly average.
Sure, but without him their team is thoroughly average. That's the point. He is not an excellent individual player, but he is their 2nd most important player.

Without Steph and Klay, the Warriors were thoroughly average with Draymond as their centerpiece which lends to my point, he's a complementary piece. There's a reason all time greats chastised him as Mr. Triple Single.

I admire his grit and determination, the willingness to compete but he's just a player to me.

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« Reply #1407 on: June 03, 2022, 08:05:49 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

Not sure why he can't just give the Celtics credit. It's as if the Celtics are "beneath" the warriors. I hope Ime is playing these comments every day to the Celtics "hey golden state doesn't think you can do this again"

Even the first quarter I wouldn't say was domination. Up by 4. Ended the half down 2.

Draymond is a byproduct of peak Steph/Klay. He showed us who he is without them; a jag. He's never shown much intelligence publicly so my suggestion to him is keep throwing the shade.
I think this is completely incorrect. He is one of the biggest ceiling raisers in the NBA. Golden State have essentially been a .500 team in games he's missed since he was drafted, compared to ~.700 when he plays. Without him they never win anything.

Completely disagree. He's a complementary piece not a star and his reputation entirely depends on those two being who they are. Without them, he's thoroughly average.
Draymond is one the same scale and quality of player as Smart. They have a lot of similarities. If Draymond is a JAG, then so is Smart.

I don't think either are JAGs, but maybe a couple of the best defenders and glue guys of the past 20 years.

Smart has developed an offensive game, Draymond never had one. There's no comparison.
Over the last 7 years, Draymond has 9.7/7.7/7.3 numbers on 45.3/31.3/72.1 shooting splits.

Marcus over that time is 10.8/3.6/4.7 on 38.3/32/79.4 shooting splits.

Your assertion just isn't born out in the numbers. If anything, because Dray has averaged close to 3 assists more per game  and shot 7% points higher over that time while shooting threes at an equal pace, it could be argued Dray has been the better offensive player in that time.

I seem them as very similar. I think the eye test and numbers bare that out.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Warriors (0-0) The Finals Game #1 6/2/22
« Reply #1408 on: June 03, 2022, 08:06:33 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

Not sure why he can't just give the Celtics credit. It's as if the Celtics are "beneath" the warriors. I hope Ime is playing these comments every day to the Celtics "hey golden state doesn't think you can do this again"

Even the first quarter I wouldn't say was domination. Up by 4. Ended the half down 2.

Draymond is a byproduct of peak Steph/Klay. He showed us who he is without them; a jag. He's never shown much intelligence publicly so my suggestion to him is keep throwing the shade.
I think this is completely incorrect. He is one of the biggest ceiling raisers in the NBA. Golden State have essentially been a .500 team in games he's missed since he was drafted, compared to ~.700 when he plays. Without him they never win anything.

Completely disagree. He's a complementary piece not a star and his reputation entirely depends on those two being who they are. Without them, he's thoroughly average.
Draymond is one the same scale and quality of player as Smart. They have a lot of similarities. If Draymond is a JAG, then so is Smart.

I don't think either are JAGs, but maybe a couple of the best defenders and glue guys of the past 20 years.

Smart has developed an offensive game, Draymond never had one. There's no comparison.
This is just provably wrong. Draymond's career highs in points, assists, field goal % and three point % are all higher than Smart's.
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Re: Celtics (0-0) at Warriors (0-0) The Finals Game #1 6/2/22
« Reply #1409 on: June 03, 2022, 08:14:26 PM »

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Warriors especially Green are very cocky..they probably thought they would sweep the Celtics

yeah i've never heard a team say after a loss "well they just shot well they arent that good" which is basically what he is saying.

while discounting they shot well and tatum shot 17%

He didn't say that.

"They stayed within striking distance and they made shots late," Green said. "We'll be fine. We'll figure out the ways we can stop them from getting those 3s and take them away. I don't think it was a rhythm thing. We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes, so we'll be fine."

"They hit 21 3s and Marcus Smart, Al Horford and Derrick White combined for 15," Green said. "Those guys are good shooters, but they combined for what, 15 out of eight, Smart seven, eight, 15-for-23. Is my math right? Eight, seven and eight. Eight, seven and eight. Yea, that's 23, right? 15-for-23 from those guys. Eh. We'll be fine."

He quite literally said they are good.
Not sure what Draymond was talking about saying the Dubs dominated for 41, 42 minutes. After 1, it was GSW by 4. After 2, Celtics by 2. At 41,42 minutes mark, it was tie game. How is that dominating the game.

I guess he has to tell himself whatever he needs to to get his head back into the series, but the Dubs only dominated for about 7-8 minutes of the 3rd period.

Not sure why he can't just give the Celtics credit. It's as if the Celtics are "beneath" the warriors. I hope Ime is playing these comments every day to the Celtics "hey golden state doesn't think you can do this again"

Even the first quarter I wouldn't say was domination. Up by 4. Ended the half down 2.

Draymond is a byproduct of peak Steph/Klay. He showed us who he is without them; a jag. He's never shown much intelligence publicly so my suggestion to him is keep throwing the shade.
I think this is completely incorrect. He is one of the biggest ceiling raisers in the NBA. Golden State have essentially been a .500 team in games he's missed since he was drafted, compared to ~.700 when he plays. Without him they never win anything.

Completely disagree. He's a complementary piece not a star and his reputation entirely depends on those two being who they are. Without them, he's thoroughly average.
Draymond is one the same scale and quality of player as Smart. They have a lot of similarities. If Draymond is a JAG, then so is Smart.

I don't think either are JAGs, but maybe a couple of the best defenders and glue guys of the past 20 years.

Smart has developed an offensive game, Draymond never had one. There's no comparison.
This is just provably wrong. Draymond's career highs in points, assists, field goal % and three point % are all higher than Smart's.

Evidently, comprehension is not your strong suit gleefully glossing over the "has developed" component of my comment but for you, that's typical, isn't it. Now, with that out of the way, would you like to present the career averages as opposed to cherrypicking career highs.