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Re: League Action Against Kyrie Watch
« Reply #90 on: April 19, 2022, 01:16:43 PM »

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I think cardboard cutouts of Kyries head laying on a flat earth “ pancake” with people waving they sign boards bobbing up and down while he is shooting foul shots would be a riot.

Re: League Action Against Kyrie Watch
« Reply #91 on: April 19, 2022, 01:25:02 PM »

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Fans can still get on Kyrie or any other player, they just can't be obscene or vulgar.  A fan should not scream anything that they wouldn't want their 10 year old daughter to hear.

I wish this was the standard.  From my experience, both at Fenway and the Garden, they let a lot of stuff go.  One of my least favorite sporting experiences is the "profane heckler", and unfortunately I've by in the presence of more than a few.

I was at a high school hockey game recently and there was one "fan" (maybe a parent, I don't know) who was just ridiculous.  I was there because my hockey group had the ice after the game and the game was in overtime so we had to wait.  Most of what this guys was screaming was directed at the refs but it was really bad and in a rink full of kids of all ages.  I was tempted but chose not to tell him what I felt about his language.  It wasn't that I thought he would try to fight me (I had a hockey stick in my hands after all) but it just didn't seem like it was going to help.

For the Celtics or professional sports in general, the "ugly fan" is an issue for other fans.  No one want to go to a game and listen to that.  This is why it is in the league's and the teams' best interest to figure out a way to control this.

Again, is "Kyrie suckz" vulgar or obscene?  I don't know but I would not want to listen to that all game after I had paid good money for a ticket.  It is kind of like second hand smoke.  Yes, you have a right to smoke but you have to respect the right of others to not breath your second hand smoke.  Same with fans, sure, you have a right to scream things (within reason) but you also have to respect the rights of other paying customers in the stands.
s.uck.s is not vulgar or obscene, but that isn't what Irving said was being shouted at him.  He pretty clearly said p...y, b...h, f... you, etc.  Those are in fact vulgar or obscene and shouldn't be said in an arena.

If you see the times when Irving responded, he was either directing it at a specific person and/or very close to the fans, who probably crossed some sort of line.  That is why I'm of the belief security needs to do a better job.

We actually do have it on tape of a fan literally just saying “you suck kyrie” and him responding to the guy to tell him to just suck on his … we literally have tape of this incident. Are we just gonna start making up what happened?
we also have tape of Durant bantering with the crowd on Sunday.  And countless other players doing basically the same thing every game, both home and away.  That isn't unusual at all.  Flipping the bird is a different sort of animal and that is what Kyrie said was said to him when he did that.  Those fans should have been ejected.  There is no place for that in an arena.  That is where security failed.  Kyrie should have ignored those fans, but he didn't.  He will be fined and will move on to the next game.  You are grossly overreacting to Kyrie's reaction though and making a mountain out of a mole hill.  Kyrie isn't unhinged.  He isn't having a mental break.  He responded to some lewd comments in a lewd manner.  It happens.  Oh well.  A guy that is unhinged and basically having a mental break as you allege, wouldn't have gone out and had one of the best games of his career and what will almost certainly be the best game he plays in the series.  You just can't do that if you are having a break from reality.  Kyrie was feeding off the negative energy and it fueled him to an awesome game.  He went overboard with the bird flipping, but it isn't a big deal in the scheme of things.  Pay his fine and go about his business in the next game.

Was Durant telling people to suck on his ___ as part of this banter? That's certainly not what ABC wants broadcast on easter afternoon. When I say unhinged it is not referring to game 1. It is referring to his behavior over the last few years (which you continue to ignore despite me literally sharing articles about his teammates and coach not even knowing where he was after he disappeared on them and "went off the grid". It is certainly not a minority or fringe viewpoint to say this either. There have been countless articles discussing Kyrie's increasingly erratic behavior the last two years. Also the idea that I guy can't have a good basketball game while having mental issues, is really something. How exactly would you explain Antonio Brown having huge games on the field in the middle of what is universally accepted as becoming unhinged and unstable? I guess you believe someone that has depression, anxiety, narcissist disorder or general paranoia or something like this can no longer hit a three pointer. Pretty interesting idea..  But whatever, you want to ignore reality or argue with this further we can just agree to disagree and spare the forum.
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Re: League Action Against Kyrie Watch
« Reply #92 on: April 19, 2022, 01:46:48 PM »

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Fans can still get on Kyrie or any other player, they just can't be obscene or vulgar.  A fan should not scream anything that they wouldn't want their 10 year old daughter to hear.

I wish this was the standard.  From my experience, both at Fenway and the Garden, they let a lot of stuff go.  One of my least favorite sporting experiences is the "profane heckler", and unfortunately I've by in the presence of more than a few.

I was at a high school hockey game recently and there was one "fan" (maybe a parent, I don't know) who was just ridiculous.  I was there because my hockey group had the ice after the game and the game was in overtime so we had to wait.  Most of what this guys was screaming was directed at the refs but it was really bad and in a rink full of kids of all ages.  I was tempted but chose not to tell him what I felt about his language.  It wasn't that I thought he would try to fight me (I had a hockey stick in my hands after all) but it just didn't seem like it was going to help.

For the Celtics or professional sports in general, the "ugly fan" is an issue for other fans.  No one want to go to a game and listen to that.  This is why it is in the league's and the teams' best interest to figure out a way to control this.

Again, is "Kyrie suckz" vulgar or obscene?  I don't know but I would not want to listen to that all game after I had paid good money for a ticket.  It is kind of like second hand smoke.  Yes, you have a right to smoke but you have to respect the right of others to not breath your second hand smoke.  Same with fans, sure, you have a right to scream things (within reason) but you also have to respect the rights of other paying customers in the stands.
s.uck.s is not vulgar or obscene, but that isn't what Irving said was being shouted at him.  He pretty clearly said p...y, b...h, f... you, etc.  Those are in fact vulgar or obscene and shouldn't be said in an arena.

If you see the times when Irving responded, he was either directing it at a specific person and/or very close to the fans, who probably crossed some sort of line.  That is why I'm of the belief security needs to do a better job.

We actually do have it on tape of a fan literally just saying “you suck kyrie” and him responding to the guy to tell him to just suck on his … we literally have tape of this incident. Are we just gonna start making up what happened?
we also have tape of Durant bantering with the crowd on Sunday.  And countless other players doing basically the same thing every game, both home and away.  That isn't unusual at all.  Flipping the bird is a different sort of animal and that is what Kyrie said was said to him when he did that.  Those fans should have been ejected.  There is no place for that in an arena.  That is where security failed.  Kyrie should have ignored those fans, but he didn't.  He will be fined and will move on to the next game.  You are grossly overreacting to Kyrie's reaction though and making a mountain out of a mole hill.  Kyrie isn't unhinged.  He isn't having a mental break.  He responded to some lewd comments in a lewd manner.  It happens.  Oh well.  A guy that is unhinged and basically having a mental break as you allege, wouldn't have gone out and had one of the best games of his career and what will almost certainly be the best game he plays in the series.  You just can't do that if you are having a break from reality.  Kyrie was feeding off the negative energy and it fueled him to an awesome game.  He went overboard with the bird flipping, but it isn't a big deal in the scheme of things.  Pay his fine and go about his business in the next game.

Was Durant telling people to suck on his ___ as part of this banter? That's certainly not what ABC wants broadcast on easter afternoon. When I say unhinged it is not referring to game 1. It is referring to his behavior over the last few years (which you continue to ignore despite me literally sharing articles about his teammates and coach not even knowing where he was after he disappeared on them and "went off the grid". It is certainly not a minority or fringe viewpoint to say this either. There have been countless articles discussing Kyrie's increasingly erratic behavior the last two years. Also the idea that I guy can't have a good basketball game while having mental issues, is really something. How exactly would you explain Antonio Brown having huge games on the field in the middle of what is universally accepted as becoming unhinged and unstable? I guess you believe someone that has depression, anxiety, narcissist disorder or general paranoia or something like this can no longer hit a three pointer. Pretty interesting idea..  But whatever, you want to ignore reality or argue with this further we can just agree to disagree and spare the forum.

CC I have no desire to repeat myself across two threads, but you keep using the word 'unhinged' and you keep on underplaying what that word might mean. Being depressed or suffering from anxiety is not being unhinged. Giving the finger to a fan and saying sukma to someone who's trash talking you is not being unhinged. Your usage is 'literally' ( :p ) getting to Inigo Montoya levels here.

Now, in addition to the other thread, which basically posits that this armchair psychology is worth exactly what it cost to read, I would also point out that the 'countless articles' discussing Kyrie's behaviour are generally unqualified rubbernecking that are written for sports fans: hardly the most incredulous (or literate) target market.

That is to say, you're better than the 'people are saying' arguments. Don't do yourself the disservice by making them.
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Re: League Action Against Kyrie Watch
« Reply #93 on: April 19, 2022, 01:56:53 PM »

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Fans can still get on Kyrie or any other player, they just can't be obscene or vulgar.  A fan should not scream anything that they wouldn't want their 10 year old daughter to hear.

I wish this was the standard.  From my experience, both at Fenway and the Garden, they let a lot of stuff go.  One of my least favorite sporting experiences is the "profane heckler", and unfortunately I've by in the presence of more than a few.

I was at a high school hockey game recently and there was one "fan" (maybe a parent, I don't know) who was just ridiculous.  I was there because my hockey group had the ice after the game and the game was in overtime so we had to wait.  Most of what this guys was screaming was directed at the refs but it was really bad and in a rink full of kids of all ages.  I was tempted but chose not to tell him what I felt about his language.  It wasn't that I thought he would try to fight me (I had a hockey stick in my hands after all) but it just didn't seem like it was going to help.

For the Celtics or professional sports in general, the "ugly fan" is an issue for other fans.  No one want to go to a game and listen to that.  This is why it is in the league's and the teams' best interest to figure out a way to control this.

Again, is "Kyrie suckz" vulgar or obscene?  I don't know but I would not want to listen to that all game after I had paid good money for a ticket.  It is kind of like second hand smoke.  Yes, you have a right to smoke but you have to respect the right of others to not breath your second hand smoke.  Same with fans, sure, you have a right to scream things (within reason) but you also have to respect the rights of other paying customers in the stands.
s.uck.s is not vulgar or obscene, but that isn't what Irving said was being shouted at him.  He pretty clearly said p...y, b...h, f... you, etc.  Those are in fact vulgar or obscene and shouldn't be said in an arena.

If you see the times when Irving responded, he was either directing it at a specific person and/or very close to the fans, who probably crossed some sort of line.  That is why I'm of the belief security needs to do a better job.

We actually do have it on tape of a fan literally just saying “you suck kyrie” and him responding to the guy to tell him to just suck on his … we literally have tape of this incident. Are we just gonna start making up what happened?
we also have tape of Durant bantering with the crowd on Sunday.  And countless other players doing basically the same thing every game, both home and away.  That isn't unusual at all.  Flipping the bird is a different sort of animal and that is what Kyrie said was said to him when he did that.  Those fans should have been ejected.  There is no place for that in an arena.  That is where security failed.  Kyrie should have ignored those fans, but he didn't.  He will be fined and will move on to the next game.  You are grossly overreacting to Kyrie's reaction though and making a mountain out of a mole hill.  Kyrie isn't unhinged.  He isn't having a mental break.  He responded to some lewd comments in a lewd manner.  It happens.  Oh well.  A guy that is unhinged and basically having a mental break as you allege, wouldn't have gone out and had one of the best games of his career and what will almost certainly be the best game he plays in the series.  You just can't do that if you are having a break from reality.  Kyrie was feeding off the negative energy and it fueled him to an awesome game.  He went overboard with the bird flipping, but it isn't a big deal in the scheme of things.  Pay his fine and go about his business in the next game.

Was Durant telling people to suck on his ___ as part of this banter? That's certainly not what ABC wants broadcast on easter afternoon. When I say unhinged it is not referring to game 1. It is referring to his behavior over the last few years (which you continue to ignore despite me literally sharing articles about his teammates and coach not even knowing where he was after he disappeared on them and "went off the grid". It is certainly not a minority or fringe viewpoint to say this either. There have been countless articles discussing Kyrie's increasingly erratic behavior the last two years. Also the idea that I guy can't have a good basketball game while having mental issues, is really something. How exactly would you explain Antonio Brown having huge games on the field in the middle of what is universally accepted as becoming unhinged and unstable? I guess you believe someone that has depression, anxiety, narcissist disorder or general paranoia or something like this can no longer hit a three pointer. Pretty interesting idea..  But whatever, you want to ignore reality or argue with this further we can just agree to disagree and spare the forum.
From Game 1.

Fan: "[dang] KD no homo but you go no ass at all, all bone down there"

KD: "Still fatter than your girls"

That is fairly typical of the type of banter that happens on the court between fans and players. 

Here is one from a month ago with KD which I posted earlier. 

https://twitter.com/DeLo_77/status/1504293717922009094?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504293717922009094%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ffansided.com%2F2022%2F03%2F17%2Fkevin-durant-fan-fight-nets-game%2F

I think KD crossed the line with the TikTok one, but that stuff happens all of the time.  It isn't unusual at all.  The only unusual part is the visibility of Irving doing it on the television cameras, but anyone that has sat near the court of an actual game has heard significantly worse from both the fans and players, which is why security absolutely needs to do a better job.
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Re: League Action Against Kyrie Watch
« Reply #94 on: April 19, 2022, 02:04:53 PM »

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Brooklyn Nets star Kyrie Irving has been fined $50,000 for middle finger gestures to fans on Sunday in Boston, as well as profane language.

So what happens if he does it all again in Game 2? Another fine and that's it?

Honestly maybe Kyrie should just cut a check for 150 or 200K to cover the remaining TD Garden games lol
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Re: League Action Against Kyrie Watch
« Reply #95 on: April 19, 2022, 02:11:33 PM »

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Is anyone watching the Lakers HBO show? They use a lot of creativity, but one of the points in the most recent episode was how gross/tough the Garden was in the 80's. Rats, obstructed views, lack of climate control, and unruly/disrespectful fans.

Adam Mackay is a Lakers fan, so I'm not shocked that he painted Boston in this light.

I am shocked, however, to read that people think Kyrie deserves whatever people want to say. I thought it was fun to watch the fans and Kyrie go back and forth. I'm certainly not going to get on a high horse and criticize one party (Kyrie) while letting fans off the hook. That doesn't seem accurate/right.

I believe that we've moved on from the idea that we can abuse entertainers because we pay them. That demonstrates a mindset that is not indicative of player empowerment and life in general in 2022.

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« Reply #96 on: April 19, 2022, 02:11:50 PM »

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Brooklyn Nets star Kyrie Irving has been fined $50,000 for middle finger gestures to fans on Sunday in Boston, as well as profane language.

So what happens if he does it all again in Game 2? Another fine and that's it?

Honestly maybe Kyrie should just cut a check for 150 or 200K to cover the remaining TD Garden games lol

He got off a bit lightly.  The league could have easily fined him $50k for each offense.
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Re: League Action Against Kyrie Watch
« Reply #97 on: April 19, 2022, 02:42:04 PM »

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Brooklyn Nets star Kyrie Irving has been fined $50,000 for middle finger gestures to fans on Sunday in Boston, as well as profane language.

So what happens if he does it all again in Game 2? Another fine and that's it?

Honestly maybe Kyrie should just cut a check for 150 or 200K to cover the remaining TD Garden games lol

He got off a bit lately.  The league could have easily fined him $50k for each offense.
Or maybe the middle fingers were 15k each and the profane language was 20k, so they just combined it into 1 fine. 
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« Reply #98 on: April 19, 2022, 02:51:44 PM »

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Fans can still get on Kyrie or any other player, they just can't be obscene or vulgar.  A fan should not scream anything that they wouldn't want their 10 year old daughter to hear.

I wish this was the standard.  From my experience, both at Fenway and the Garden, they let a lot of stuff go.  One of my least favorite sporting experiences is the "profane heckler", and unfortunately I've by in the presence of more than a few.

I was at a high school hockey game recently and there was one "fan" (maybe a parent, I don't know) who was just ridiculous.  I was there because my hockey group had the ice after the game and the game was in overtime so we had to wait.  Most of what this guys was screaming was directed at the refs but it was really bad and in a rink full of kids of all ages.  I was tempted but chose not to tell him what I felt about his language.  It wasn't that I thought he would try to fight me (I had a hockey stick in my hands after all) but it just didn't seem like it was going to help.

For the Celtics or professional sports in general, the "ugly fan" is an issue for other fans.  No one want to go to a game and listen to that.  This is why it is in the league's and the teams' best interest to figure out a way to control this.

Again, is "Kyrie suckz" vulgar or obscene?  I don't know but I would not want to listen to that all game after I had paid good money for a ticket.  It is kind of like second hand smoke.  Yes, you have a right to smoke but you have to respect the right of others to not breath your second hand smoke.  Same with fans, sure, you have a right to scream things (within reason) but you also have to respect the rights of other paying customers in the stands.
s.uck.s is not vulgar or obscene, but that isn't what Irving said was being shouted at him.  He pretty clearly said p...y, b...h, f... you, etc.  Those are in fact vulgar or obscene and shouldn't be said in an arena.

If you see the times when Irving responded, he was either directing it at a specific person and/or very close to the fans, who probably crossed some sort of line.  That is why I'm of the belief security needs to do a better job.

We actually do have it on tape of a fan literally just saying “you suck kyrie” and him responding to the guy to tell him to just suck on his … we literally have tape of this incident. Are we just gonna start making up what happened?
we also have tape of Durant bantering with the crowd on Sunday.  And countless other players doing basically the same thing every game, both home and away.  That isn't unusual at all.  Flipping the bird is a different sort of animal and that is what Kyrie said was said to him when he did that.  Those fans should have been ejected.  There is no place for that in an arena.  That is where security failed.  Kyrie should have ignored those fans, but he didn't.  He will be fined and will move on to the next game.  You are grossly overreacting to Kyrie's reaction though and making a mountain out of a mole hill.  Kyrie isn't unhinged.  He isn't having a mental break.  He responded to some lewd comments in a lewd manner.  It happens.  Oh well.  A guy that is unhinged and basically having a mental break as you allege, wouldn't have gone out and had one of the best games of his career and what will almost certainly be the best game he plays in the series.  You just can't do that if you are having a break from reality.  Kyrie was feeding off the negative energy and it fueled him to an awesome game.  He went overboard with the bird flipping, but it isn't a big deal in the scheme of things.  Pay his fine and go about his business in the next game.

Was Durant telling people to suck on his ___ as part of this banter? That's certainly not what ABC wants broadcast on easter afternoon. When I say unhinged it is not referring to game 1. It is referring to his behavior over the last few years (which you continue to ignore despite me literally sharing articles about his teammates and coach not even knowing where he was after he disappeared on them and "went off the grid". It is certainly not a minority or fringe viewpoint to say this either. There have been countless articles discussing Kyrie's increasingly erratic behavior the last two years. Also the idea that I guy can't have a good basketball game while having mental issues, is really something. How exactly would you explain Antonio Brown having huge games on the field in the middle of what is universally accepted as becoming unhinged and unstable? I guess you believe someone that has depression, anxiety, narcissist disorder or general paranoia or something like this can no longer hit a three pointer. Pretty interesting idea..  But whatever, you want to ignore reality or argue with this further we can just agree to disagree and spare the forum.

CC I have no desire to repeat myself across two threads, but you keep using the word 'unhinged' and you keep on underplaying what that word might mean. Being depressed or suffering from anxiety is not being unhinged. Giving the finger to a fan and saying sukma to someone who's trash talking you is not being unhinged. Your usage is 'literally' ( :p ) getting to Inigo Montoya levels here.

Now, in addition to the other thread, which basically posits that this armchair psychology is worth exactly what it cost to read, I would also point out that the 'countless articles' discussing Kyrie's behaviour are generally unqualified rubbernecking that are written for sports fans: hardly the most incredulous (or literate) target market.

That is to say, you're better than the 'people are saying' arguments. Don't do yourself the disservice by making them.

Kernewek since you are making good faith arguments and making reasonable points, I will explain more what I mean cause there is definitely some confusion happening (and tp to boot). Unhinged has a lot of different definitions, and I have even found different ones and different examples in different dictionaries. In the most extreme use of it, it can mean someone has completely lost control of themself and has done something horrible like a mass shooting. I clearly do not mean it like this. However, in other cases it is used just to describe someone that is distraught or agitated. EG I became a bit unhinged in rush hour traffic the other day and flicked off and cursed at multiple drivers. I am clearly using this in more in the second way, which coupled with Kyries erratic behavior the last few years I think is pretty fair. And while I agree with you that media coverage of sports is not the most high level intellectual discussion, I do think it is fair to point out that if a topic is heavily covered by the media it means it at least somewhat notable or unusual. If Durant yells "I am the greatest" after making a three pointer there aren't countless articles written about it because it is completely normal behavior that every player does every game. With respect to Irving I am also noticing that this has been a pattern of erratic behavior that seems to happen more frequently. For example last year, when he just disappeared on his teammates and coaches to the point they didn't know where he was or when he would play again because he went off the grid. I have followed the NBA closely for more than 25 years at this point and this is just objectively not normal behavior (I am sure it has happened a couple of times during this period, but I honestly can't recall a Celtics player just cutting off communicaton completely and missing 6-7 games). In addition, while I am making no effort to pretend to diagnosis or say I know what is going on with Kyrie and his behavior, I can say with confidence from working heavily on mental health communications and messaging with doctors that going off the grid and withdrawing from communication is considered troubling behavior medically. You couple some of the things that have happened the last two years with poor impulse control and flicking off fans and telling them to suck your d and it is a pattern of being distraught and/or agitated and fair to use the term unhinged to describe it that way imo.
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Brooklyn Nets star Kyrie Irving has been fined $50,000 for middle finger gestures to fans on Sunday in Boston, as well as profane language.

So what happens if he does it all again in Game 2? Another fine and that's it?

Honestly maybe Kyrie should just cut a check for 150 or 200K to cover the remaining TD Garden games lol

He got off a bit lately.  The league could have easily fined him $50k for each offense.
Or maybe the middle fingers were 15k each and the profane language was 20k, so they just combined it into 1 fine.
I think this is about right.
The league fined the "max" without getting into repeater or per incidence ambiguities.
The message is STOP.

If this is the end of the drama, good. If it isn't then it escalates from here.

I hope TD Garden security is viligent and Kyrie calms down.

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« Reply #100 on: April 19, 2022, 03:11:40 PM »

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I came to detest Kyrie's behavior his last season here.

Especially saying he plans to sign near opening night, and proceeding to recant in action and, in the end, by deed.

I don't think he purposely tried to lose vs the Bucks.  He did some stupid stuff, and played poorly.  Maybe he checked out, it happens.  But by then, we were all pretty ready to move on from him. And even if he had performed at a normal level,  I doubt we beat the Bucks.

My point is this:  Why does the fan base feel the need to boo him incessantly?  It's kind of petty IMO. It frankly reinforces Kyrie's metaphor as a jilted lover.  It's like the Utah fans whenever G returned. It makes us look weak.

As far as fans yelling obscenities at him, they should be tossed from the game.  One of them is going to cross the line if not stopped sooner, and it will bring out all the articles about Boston being a racist sports town, which I find very unfortunate.

I'd enjoy the games a lot more without all this BS, and my guess is that it only is motivating Kyrie to play harder to beat us. 

Re: League Action Against Kyrie Watch
« Reply #101 on: April 19, 2022, 05:32:32 PM »

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Many good words

I think that makes a lot of sense, thanks for expounding :)

It appears that we all agree Kyrie is more or less "over it". The worrying thing seems to be that 'it' is feeling obligated to play basketball in the NBA for the duration of his contract under any auspices he doesn't like. Given that he's obviously very fickle (to be nice), this is pretty interesting.
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Re: League Action Against Kyrie Watch
« Reply #102 on: April 19, 2022, 08:34:39 PM »

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I came to detest Kyrie's behavior his last season here.

Especially saying he plans to sign near opening night, and proceeding to recant in action and, in the end, by deed.

I don't think he purposely tried to lose vs the Bucks.  He did some stupid stuff, and played poorly.  Maybe he checked out, it happens.  But by then, we were all pretty ready to move on from him. And even if he had performed at a normal level,  I doubt we beat the Bucks.

My point is this:  Why does the fan base feel the need to boo him incessantly?  It's kind of petty IMO. It frankly reinforces Kyrie's metaphor as a jilted lover.  It's like the Utah fans whenever G returned. It makes us look weak.

As far as fans yelling obscenities at him, they should be tossed from the game.  One of them is going to cross the line if not stopped sooner, and it will bring out all the articles about Boston being a racist sports town, which I find very unfortunate.

I'd enjoy the games a lot more without all this BS, and my guess is that it only is motivating Kyrie to play harder to beat us.
the stomping on Lucky.  there's no other purpose than to show contempt for the franchise and fanbase. 

the rest would have resulted in just giving him crap for a year, maybe two.  the stomp - that's a lifetime insult that merits continuous haranguing of Kyrie every time he's in the Garden

Re: League Action Against Kyrie Watch
« Reply #103 on: April 19, 2022, 10:45:00 PM »

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Footey is right. It makes us look weak. Sharks don’t concern themselves with minnows. The Celtics are looking forward, not back. JT, JB, Marcus, Horford and eventually Williams are contending for a chip. No time to focus on little Kyrie and his stupid antics.

KD is their alpha, not Kyrie.

Re: League Action Against Kyrie Watch
« Reply #104 on: April 19, 2022, 10:50:07 PM »

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Footey is right. It makes us look weak. Sharks don’t concern themselves with minnows. The Celtics are looking forward, not back. JT, JB, Marcus, Horford and eventually Williams are contending for a chip. No time to focus on little Kyrie and his stupid antics.

KD is their alpha, not Kyrie.

Haha let the fans have some fun

But JT and co. seem to already be over it with Kyrie. No lost love even from the beginning lol. One thing about this group is they have always been extremely professional.