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Re: KG's retirement ceremony
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2022, 04:15:01 AM »

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I always told myself once KG forgave Ray that I would too. It was looking that way during all star weekend with the picture Pierce posted of the 3, but tonight cemented it. Ray, youre back in my dude!

I really enjoyed that ceremony and it was awesome seeing KG in the moment.
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2022, 08:16:42 AM »

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KG is one of my favorite Celtic of all time but I don’t think they should had retire his number..he wasn’t here long enough, same with Allen..going start run out of numbers pretty soon
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2022, 12:13:52 PM »

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I agree - it's not a popular opinion but I think to have retired his number he should have been here longer or gotten one more ring.  Still happy for him though.

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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2022, 01:57:20 PM »

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I think on KG's length here we need to also add in the fact he took one for the team when going to Nets. He was open about not going anywhere and retiring here. Pierce had to convince him to wave his "no trade". So Tatum and Brown are partly here thanks to KG and Pierce.

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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2022, 02:44:09 PM »

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Even though kg wasn’t here long it was much deserved and I have no problem with it, Without him who knows how long the Celtics go without a title, but if they end up putting ray and or rondo I’ll be embarrassed

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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2022, 03:37:21 AM »

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Idk if anyone caught the post ceremony interview with Scal and Ray but they mentioned a story to emphasize the toughness of that squad.

Ray said they brought in a big guy free agent (he wouldnt mention by name) and his 1st practice he went to shoot at the rim where Pierce, KG, and Allen were at and Paul basically told him he wasnt shooting with them and to get lost. So the unnamed big man went to the other side of the court to shoot with the other guys and Eddie House told him to get lost too. The guy ended up just standing at mid court doing nothing and Ray said it was at that moment he knew he wasnt gonna last because you had to have at least a little bit of grit to play with them guys.

Anyone have any clue as to who this unnamed player could be? He didnt mention exactly what year it was but it seemed like he was talking about 07-08. I cant think of any big men we brought in that year besides PJ Brown and i know he got along with all those guys and Pierce personally recruited him so there's no way it could be him.
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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2022, 04:15:14 AM »

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KG is one of my favorite Celtic of all time but I don’t think they should had retire his number..he wasn’t here long enough, going start run out of numbers pretty soon

No, we won't. Plenty still left.

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Love to see the current group hang a few banners and retire some more.
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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2022, 04:24:12 AM »

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Idk if anyone caught the post ceremony interview with Scal and Ray but they mentioned a story to emphasize the toughness of that squad.

Ray said they brought in a big guy free agent (he wouldnt mention by name) and his 1st practice he went to shoot at the rim where Pierce, KG, and Allen were at and Paul basically told him he wasnt shooting with them and to get lost. So the unnamed big man went to the other side of the court to shoot with the other guys and Eddie House told him to get lost too. The guy ended up just standing at mid court doing nothing and Ray said it was at that moment he knew he wasnt gonna last because you had to have at least a little bit of grit to play with them guys.

Anyone have any clue as to who this unnamed player could be? He didnt mention exactly what year it was but it seemed like he was talking about 07-08. I cant think of any big men we brought in that year besides PJ Brown and i know he got along with all those guys and Pierce personally recruited him so there's no way it could be him.
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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2022, 06:00:27 AM »

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Idk if anyone caught the post ceremony interview with Scal and Ray but they mentioned a story to emphasize the toughness of that squad.

Ray said they brought in a big guy free agent (he wouldnt mention by name) and his 1st practice he went to shoot at the rim where Pierce, KG, and Allen were at and Paul basically told him he wasnt shooting with them and to get lost. So the unnamed big man went to the other side of the court to shoot with the other guys and Eddie House told him to get lost too. The guy ended up just standing at mid court doing nothing and Ray said it was at that moment he knew he wasnt gonna last because you had to have at least a little bit of grit to play with them guys.

Anyone have any clue as to who this unnamed player could be? He didnt mention exactly what year it was but it seemed like he was talking about 07-08. I cant think of any big men we brought in that year besides PJ Brown and i know he got along with all those guys and Pierce personally recruited him so there's no way it could be him.

That reeks of Patrick O’Bryant.

I know he wasn’t 07-08 but you’re just guessing that’s the year and this sounds similar to other behind closed door stories regarding POB
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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2022, 09:55:03 AM »

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KG is one of my favorite Celtic of all time but I don’t think they should had retire his number..he wasn’t here long enough, going start run out of numbers pretty soon

No, we won't. Plenty still left.

#'s  4, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 20, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40 - 59.

Love to see the current group hang a few banners and retire some more.
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« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2022, 11:09:15 AM »

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Idk if anyone caught the post ceremony interview with Scal and Ray but they mentioned a story to emphasize the toughness of that squad.

Ray said they brought in a big guy free agent (he wouldnt mention by name) and his 1st practice he went to shoot at the rim where Pierce, KG, and Allen were at and Paul basically told him he wasnt shooting with them and to get lost. So the unnamed big man went to the other side of the court to shoot with the other guys and Eddie House told him to get lost too. The guy ended up just standing at mid court doing nothing and Ray said it was at that moment he knew he wasnt gonna last because you had to have at least a little bit of grit to play with them guys.

Anyone have any clue as to who this unnamed player could be? He didnt mention exactly what year it was but it seemed like he was talking about 07-08. I cant think of any big men we brought in that year besides PJ Brown and i know he got along with all those guys and Pierce personally recruited him so there's no way it could be him.
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Pollard has some grit. My money is on Patrick Obryant like the other poster said.

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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2022, 11:13:37 AM »

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Idk if anyone caught the post ceremony interview with Scal and Ray but they mentioned a story to emphasize the toughness of that squad.

Ray said they brought in a big guy free agent (he wouldnt mention by name) and his 1st practice he went to shoot at the rim where Pierce, KG, and Allen were at and Paul basically told him he wasnt shooting with them and to get lost. So the unnamed big man went to the other side of the court to shoot with the other guys and Eddie House told him to get lost too. The guy ended up just standing at mid court doing nothing and Ray said it was at that moment he knew he wasnt gonna last because you had to have at least a little bit of grit to play with them guys.

Anyone have any clue as to who this unnamed player could be? He didnt mention exactly what year it was but it seemed like he was talking about 07-08. I cant think of any big men we brought in that year besides PJ Brown and i know he got along with all those guys and Pierce personally recruited him so there's no way it could be him.
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Pollard has some grit. My money is on Patrick Obryant like the other poster said.

Pollard & Pierce were college teammates and Pollard was an established vet.  I don't see Pierce doing Scot dirty.

Judging by the time frame and names involved, its almost certainly O'Bryant.


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Re: KG's retirement ceremony
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2022, 12:28:22 PM »

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Idk if anyone caught the post ceremony interview with Scal and Ray but they mentioned a story to emphasize the toughness of that squad.

Ray said they brought in a big guy free agent (he wouldnt mention by name) and his 1st practice he went to shoot at the rim where Pierce, KG, and Allen were at and Paul basically told him he wasnt shooting with them and to get lost. So the unnamed big man went to the other side of the court to shoot with the other guys and Eddie House told him to get lost too. The guy ended up just standing at mid court doing nothing and Ray said it was at that moment he knew he wasnt gonna last because you had to have at least a little bit of grit to play with them guys.

Anyone have any clue as to who this unnamed player could be? He didnt mention exactly what year it was but it seemed like he was talking about 07-08. I cant think of any big men we brought in that year besides PJ Brown and i know he got along with all those guys and Pierce personally recruited him so there's no way it could be him.
Scott Pollard, probably

Pollard has some grit. My money is on Patrick Obryant like the other poster said.

Pollard & Pierce were college teammates and Pollard was an established vet.  I don't see Pierce doing Scot dirty.

Judging by the time frame and names involved, its almost certainly O'Bryant.

Yeah, agreed.  The team didn't have much love for POB:

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Consider former Celtic Patrick O'Bryant, the ninth pick in the 2006 draft. Early in the 2008-09 season, O'Bryant was putting in some post work with Celtics assistant coach Clifford Ray after practice when Garnett summoned him to the other end of the floor. KG wanted to light a fire under the young center, who he felt was too placid. Garnett immediately began berating O'Bryant, criticizing him mercilessly. When O'Bryant didn't react, KG pushed harder. Still nothing. Garnett walked off the court in disgust.

"You know how he is," O'Bryant says. "He was yelling and screaming, trying to get me to scream back, but that's not who I am. I don't need to yell at someone all the way down the court after I dunk. Just because I didn't have a mean look on my face didn't mean I wasn't listening."

From that day forward, those close to the team say, Garnett would go out of his way to bully O'Bryant. Normally a pass-first player, KG would take the ball forcefully to the hole if O'Bryant was guarding him in practice. He subjected him to a nonstop stream of insults to break him. "Patrick would miss a shot, and he'd just torture him," Powe says. "Kevin wasn't going to forgive him. He'd talk crazy to him. We told Patrick, 'Don't let him get under your skin,' but it was too late." Twenty-six games into his Celtics career, on Feb. 19, 2009, Boston traded O'Bryant, who today maintains he learned a lot from Garnett and doesn't remember being bullied, to Toronto for a 2014 second-round pick. He would play just 24 more games in his NBA career.

"Kevin destroyed him," Rivers says. "It was mean-spirited."

Playing with KG required mental toughness.  Paddy O'Blount didn't have that.
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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2022, 02:38:34 PM »

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Idk if anyone caught the post ceremony interview with Scal and Ray but they mentioned a story to emphasize the toughness of that squad.

Ray said they brought in a big guy free agent (he wouldnt mention by name) and his 1st practice he went to shoot at the rim where Pierce, KG, and Allen were at and Paul basically told him he wasnt shooting with them and to get lost. So the unnamed big man went to the other side of the court to shoot with the other guys and Eddie House told him to get lost too. The guy ended up just standing at mid court doing nothing and Ray said it was at that moment he knew he wasnt gonna last because you had to have at least a little bit of grit to play with them guys.

Anyone have any clue as to who this unnamed player could be? He didnt mention exactly what year it was but it seemed like he was talking about 07-08. I cant think of any big men we brought in that year besides PJ Brown and i know he got along with all those guys and Pierce personally recruited him so there's no way it could be him.
Scott Pollard, probably

Pollard has some grit. My money is on Patrick Obryant like the other poster said.

Pollard & Pierce were college teammates and Pollard was an established vet.  I don't see Pierce doing Scot dirty.

Judging by the time frame and names involved, its almost certainly O'Bryant.

Yeah, agreed.  The team didn't have much love for POB:

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Consider former Celtic Patrick O'Bryant, the ninth pick in the 2006 draft. Early in the 2008-09 season, O'Bryant was putting in some post work with Celtics assistant coach Clifford Ray after practice when Garnett summoned him to the other end of the floor. KG wanted to light a fire under the young center, who he felt was too placid. Garnett immediately began berating O'Bryant, criticizing him mercilessly. When O'Bryant didn't react, KG pushed harder. Still nothing. Garnett walked off the court in disgust.

"You know how he is," O'Bryant says. "He was yelling and screaming, trying to get me to scream back, but that's not who I am. I don't need to yell at someone all the way down the court after I dunk. Just because I didn't have a mean look on my face didn't mean I wasn't listening."

From that day forward, those close to the team say, Garnett would go out of his way to bully O'Bryant. Normally a pass-first player, KG would take the ball forcefully to the hole if O'Bryant was guarding him in practice. He subjected him to a nonstop stream of insults to break him. "Patrick would miss a shot, and he'd just torture him," Powe says. "Kevin wasn't going to forgive him. He'd talk crazy to him. We told Patrick, 'Don't let him get under your skin,' but it was too late." Twenty-six games into his Celtics career, on Feb. 19, 2009, Boston traded O'Bryant, who today maintains he learned a lot from Garnett and doesn't remember being bullied, to Toronto for a 2014 second-round pick. He would play just 24 more games in his NBA career.

"Kevin destroyed him," Rivers says. "It was mean-spirited."

Playing with KG required mental toughness.  Paddy O'Blount didn't have that.
It is stories like that, why I continue to maintain that KG was just a flat out A.....hole.  He just wasn't a likeable guy and he always seemed to bully and pick on rookies and those he perceived as weak.  He continually crossed lines and seems to still show no remorse. 

KG played with an incredible intensity and his talent was undeniable, but he is just a straight up p..ck
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Idk if anyone caught the post ceremony interview with Scal and Ray but they mentioned a story to emphasize the toughness of that squad.

Ray said they brought in a big guy free agent (he wouldnt mention by name) and his 1st practice he went to shoot at the rim where Pierce, KG, and Allen were at and Paul basically told him he wasnt shooting with them and to get lost. So the unnamed big man went to the other side of the court to shoot with the other guys and Eddie House told him to get lost too. The guy ended up just standing at mid court doing nothing and Ray said it was at that moment he knew he wasnt gonna last because you had to have at least a little bit of grit to play with them guys.

Anyone have any clue as to who this unnamed player could be? He didnt mention exactly what year it was but it seemed like he was talking about 07-08. I cant think of any big men we brought in that year besides PJ Brown and i know he got along with all those guys and Pierce personally recruited him so there's no way it could be him.
Scott Pollard, probably

Pollard has some grit. My money is on Patrick Obryant like the other poster said.

Pollard & Pierce were college teammates and Pollard was an established vet.  I don't see Pierce doing Scot dirty.

Judging by the time frame and names involved, its almost certainly O'Bryant.

Yeah, agreed.  The team didn't have much love for POB:

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Consider former Celtic Patrick O'Bryant, the ninth pick in the 2006 draft. Early in the 2008-09 season, O'Bryant was putting in some post work with Celtics assistant coach Clifford Ray after practice when Garnett summoned him to the other end of the floor. KG wanted to light a fire under the young center, who he felt was too placid. Garnett immediately began berating O'Bryant, criticizing him mercilessly. When O'Bryant didn't react, KG pushed harder. Still nothing. Garnett walked off the court in disgust.

"You know how he is," O'Bryant says. "He was yelling and screaming, trying to get me to scream back, but that's not who I am. I don't need to yell at someone all the way down the court after I dunk. Just because I didn't have a mean look on my face didn't mean I wasn't listening."

From that day forward, those close to the team say, Garnett would go out of his way to bully O'Bryant. Normally a pass-first player, KG would take the ball forcefully to the hole if O'Bryant was guarding him in practice. He subjected him to a nonstop stream of insults to break him. "Patrick would miss a shot, and he'd just torture him," Powe says. "Kevin wasn't going to forgive him. He'd talk crazy to him. We told Patrick, 'Don't let him get under your skin,' but it was too late." Twenty-six games into his Celtics career, on Feb. 19, 2009, Boston traded O'Bryant, who today maintains he learned a lot from Garnett and doesn't remember being bullied, to Toronto for a 2014 second-round pick. He would play just 24 more games in his NBA career.

"Kevin destroyed him," Rivers says. "It was mean-spirited."

Playing with KG required mental toughness.  Paddy O'Blount didn't have that.

We can disagree with this methods, but it’s weird to judge Garnett as being a jerk here when the player literally says kg helped him long after his playing career was over.

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