Trade Idea: Get a young reserve

[tonydelk]

One of my favorite trade acquisitions was getting Jae Crowder back in 2014.  He was a young guy on his first contract, but playing well in a reserve role.  Our young reserves aren't doing so well aside from Grant, but I think getting another one at the deadline would be a good idea.  So I searched NBA.com, and found 17 players who a) are 24 or under, b) play between 15-25 minutes, c) have a positive net rating, and d) have played in at least 30 games (so we're not dealing with sample sizes that are too small).  These guys are all regular for their teams, but are probably not seen as crucial players and might be available in the next week (there could be an exception or two on the list).  Many of them are glue guys.

Amir Coffey
Austin Reaves
Corey Kispert
De'Anthony Melton
Deni Avdija
Derrick Jones Jr.
Furkan Korkmaz
Grant Williams
Immanuel Quickley
Isaiah Hartenstein
Jalen McDaniels
Landry Shamet
Obi Toppin
P.J. Washington
Precious Achiuwa
Terence Davis
Ty Jerome

On that list, obviously recency bias makes me interested in PJ Washington, but his name has been tossed around for a bit, as he might not be in the Hornets long-term plans, having been passed by Miles Bridges and Cody Martin, two players who are reaching restricted free agency and due for large raises.  Ty Jerome is another name that could be worth looking at, especially if we trade Schroder.  His shooting numbers have taken a hit this year (42% from 3 last year, only 30% this year), but it could be a buy-low opportunity, and the Thunder play 9 points per 100 better when he's on the court (likely due to his defense remaining solid despite his offensive struggles).  Anyone on this list you think might be a bargain acquisition?

PH and jerome are about the only ones on theist who entices me.  PJ has had good and bad moments this year and was much better last year.  He can play the 4 and 5.  He can space the floor.  He'd be a good backup big. 

Jerome is what we want Nesmith to be so I'd rather give Nesmith minutes vs trading for Jerome.

Jerome can also play PG.  That's not Nesmith.

Is he any good at it?  From what I saw when he played he seemed more of a SG.  If he can play better backup minutes then PP that would be great

[gouki88]

Melton is someone I’ve wanted for ages. His shooting has taken a dive this season, but he’s still awesome on D and can cover both guard spots

[Redz]

Seeing Toppin on that list, made we wonder why the Knicks don't try giving him steady minutes.  He seems like he could be an offensive force.  She shows a ton of energy.  I guess his D is subpar and Thibs likes defense??  He was siuch a high pick and tends to produce when given minutes.  Probably not attainable, but I like the guy.

[Celtics2021]

One of my favorite trade acquisitions was getting Jae Crowder back in 2014.  He was a young guy on his first contract, but playing well in a reserve role.  Our young reserves aren't doing so well aside from Grant, but I think getting another one at the deadline would be a good idea.  So I searched NBA.com, and found 17 players who a) are 24 or under, b) play between 15-25 minutes, c) have a positive net rating, and d) have played in at least 30 games (so we're not dealing with sample sizes that are too small).  These guys are all regular for their teams, but are probably not seen as crucial players and might be available in the next week (there could be an exception or two on the list).  Many of them are glue guys.

Amir Coffey
Austin Reaves
Corey Kispert
De'Anthony Melton
Deni Avdija
Derrick Jones Jr.
Furkan Korkmaz
Grant Williams
Immanuel Quickley
Isaiah Hartenstein
Jalen McDaniels
Landry Shamet
Obi Toppin
P.J. Washington
Precious Achiuwa
Terence Davis
Ty Jerome

On that list, obviously recency bias makes me interested in PJ Washington, but his name has been tossed around for a bit, as he might not be in the Hornets long-term plans, having been passed by Miles Bridges and Cody Martin, two players who are reaching restricted free agency and due for large raises.  Ty Jerome is another name that could be worth looking at, especially if we trade Schroder.  His shooting numbers have taken a hit this year (42% from 3 last year, only 30% this year), but it could be a buy-low opportunity, and the Thunder play 9 points per 100 better when he's on the court (likely due to his defense remaining solid despite his offensive struggles).  Anyone on this list you think might be a bargain acquisition?

PH and jerome are about the only ones on theist who entices me.  PJ has had good and bad moments this year and was much better last year.  He can play the 4 and 5.  He can space the floor.  He'd be a good backup big. 

Jerome is what we want Nesmith to be so I'd rather give Nesmith minutes vs trading for Jerome.

Jerome can also play PG.  That's not Nesmith.

Is he any good at it?  From what I saw when he played he seemed more of a SG.  If he can play better backup minutes then PP that would be great

I think he's backup quality.  More of a guard who can help keep the ball moving rather than a pure floor general or a guy who creates a ton off the dribble for others, but he wouldn't be out of place for 10-15 minutes a night as the PG if he's paired with another distributor.  If you view PP as sort of a Schroder-type who dribbles all over, sometimes makes a great play, but also can really break the flow of the offense, Jerome is more like a Smart-type.  Shooting comes and goes, better off the catch than the dribble (especially from the corner), can make the right read in the offense, but is best when he redirects the flow of the offense with a pass than by dribbling.  He drives to pass more than he drives to score.

He's also much bigger than Pritchard, so he won't get abused defensively the same way.  I think he'd be better than PP as our backup, as I think his style of play fits better if nothing else.  I also can't imagine he'd be very expensive to acquire (and might even be free).  The Thunder have a lot of younger guards they want to play with higher upside, and probably won't miss him or the $4.2 million he's guaranteed next season.

[Celtics2021]

Seeing Toppin on that list, made we wonder why the Knicks don't try giving him steady minutes.  He seems like he could be an offensive force.  She shows a ton of energy.  I guess his D is subpar and Thibs likes defense??  He was siuch a high pick and tends to produce when given minutes.  Probably not attainable, but I like the guy.

Yeah, that's my best guess.  He doesn't like pairing Randle and Toppin (they've only played 91 minutes together on the season). so Toppin just gets the leftover minutes.  He's being wasted, and if he could be pried loose from NY somehow, that'd be a steal in my book.

[Who]

Seeing Toppin on that list, made we wonder why the Knicks don't try giving him steady minutes.  He seems like he could be an offensive force.  She shows a ton of energy.  I guess his D is subpar and Thibs likes defense??  He was siuch a high pick and tends to produce when given minutes.  Probably not attainable, but I like the guy.

My impression was that Toppin's offensive game was what was keeping him off the court. His jump-shot was too limited. No three point shot. No midrange shot. Everything is at the rim. Add to that the subpar passing skills and you have a guy who is well below average offensively at the PF position.

An athlete who is not skilled enough.

[Celtics2021]

Melton is someone I’ve wanted for ages. His shooting has taken a dive this season, but he’s still awesome on D and can cover both guard spots

He's someone I've got my eye on for the offseason.  His salary fits into the Thompson TPE, so if Memphis decides they'd like an extra $8.5 million cap space, to get them to the low-to-mid $20 million range, perhaps he can come at a discount.

[todd_days_41]

As I expressed yesterday, I'd love to snag Vanderbilt from Minny -- though I doubt they're trading him right now.

Yeah, he didn’t make this list because he plays too many minutes for them.  I agree with your opinion of him, but he’s outplayed being an under-the-radar acquisition at this point.

I've rattled on about this guy for ages.... but I think another guy who could be a Vanderbilt type is Cheick Diallo. I strongly believe he's going to carve out a situational NBA role in the next couple of years as an offensive & defensive rebounder and defender.

He plays hard ALL THE TIME, great motor. If the Cs have an open roster spot late in the year, I'd like to see them sign him to a 10-day.

I also would like to see the Cs pry Paul Reed away from the Sixers.

[tonydelk]

One of my favorite trade acquisitions was getting Jae Crowder back in 2014.  He was a young guy on his first contract, but playing well in a reserve role.  Our young reserves aren't doing so well aside from Grant, but I think getting another one at the deadline would be a good idea.  So I searched NBA.com, and found 17 players who a) are 24 or under, b) play between 15-25 minutes, c) have a positive net rating, and d) have played in at least 30 games (so we're not dealing with sample sizes that are too small).  These guys are all regular for their teams, but are probably not seen as crucial players and might be available in the next week (there could be an exception or two on the list).  Many of them are glue guys.

Amir Coffey
Austin Reaves
Corey Kispert
De'Anthony Melton
Deni Avdija
Derrick Jones Jr.
Furkan Korkmaz
Grant Williams
Immanuel Quickley
Isaiah Hartenstein
Jalen McDaniels
Landry Shamet
Obi Toppin
P.J. Washington
Precious Achiuwa
Terence Davis
Ty Jerome

On that list, obviously recency bias makes me interested in PJ Washington, but his name has been tossed around for a bit, as he might not be in the Hornets long-term plans, having been passed by Miles Bridges and Cody Martin, two players who are reaching restricted free agency and due for large raises.  Ty Jerome is another name that could be worth looking at, especially if we trade Schroder.  His shooting numbers have taken a hit this year (42% from 3 last year, only 30% this year), but it could be a buy-low opportunity, and the Thunder play 9 points per 100 better when he's on the court (likely due to his defense remaining solid despite his offensive struggles).  Anyone on this list you think might be a bargain acquisition?

PH and jerome are about the only ones on theist who entices me.  PJ has had good and bad moments this year and was much better last year.  He can play the 4 and 5.  He can space the floor.  He'd be a good backup big. 

Jerome is what we want Nesmith to be so I'd rather give Nesmith minutes vs trading for Jerome.

Jerome can also play PG.  That's not Nesmith.

Is he any good at it?  From what I saw when he played he seemed more of a SG.  If he can play better backup minutes then PP that would be great

I think he's backup quality.  More of a guard who can help keep the ball moving rather than a pure floor general or a guy who creates a ton off the dribble for others, but he wouldn't be out of place for 10-15 minutes a night as the PG if he's paired with another distributor.  If you view PP as sort of a Schroder-type who dribbles all over, sometimes makes a great play, but also can really break the flow of the offense, Jerome is more like a Smart-type.  Shooting comes and goes, better off the catch than the dribble (especially from the corner), can make the right read in the offense, but is best when he redirects the flow of the offense with a pass than by dribbling.  He drives to pass more than he drives to score.

He's also much bigger than Pritchard, so he won't get abused defensively the same way.  I think he'd be better than PP as our backup, as I think his style of play fits better if nothing else.  I also can't imagine he'd be very expensive to acquire (and might even be free).  The Thunder have a lot of younger guards they want to play with higher upside, and probably won't miss him or the $4.2 million he's guaranteed next season.

I'd like this whole conversation to be moot and get Derrick White from the spurs.  I feel he's a major upgrade over smart.  If the cs could turn smart Into him I'd be elated.  Move Schroder and keep Richardson.

[todd_days_41]

One of my favorite trade acquisitions was getting Jae Crowder back in 2014.  He was a young guy on his first contract, but playing well in a reserve role.  Our young reserves aren't doing so well aside from Grant, but I think getting another one at the deadline would be a good idea.  So I searched NBA.com, and found 17 players who a) are 24 or under, b) play between 15-25 minutes, c) have a positive net rating, and d) have played in at least 30 games (so we're not dealing with sample sizes that are too small).  These guys are all regular for their teams, but are probably not seen as crucial players and might be available in the next week (there could be an exception or two on the list).  Many of them are glue guys.

Amir Coffey
Austin Reaves
Corey Kispert
De'Anthony Melton
Deni Avdija
Derrick Jones Jr.
Furkan Korkmaz
Grant Williams
Immanuel Quickley
Isaiah Hartenstein
Jalen McDaniels
Landry Shamet
Obi Toppin
P.J. Washington
Precious Achiuwa
Terence Davis
Ty Jerome

On that list, obviously recency bias makes me interested in PJ Washington, but his name has been tossed around for a bit, as he might not be in the Hornets long-term plans, having been passed by Miles Bridges and Cody Martin, two players who are reaching restricted free agency and due for large raises.  Ty Jerome is another name that could be worth looking at, especially if we trade Schroder.  His shooting numbers have taken a hit this year (42% from 3 last year, only 30% this year), but it could be a buy-low opportunity, and the Thunder play 9 points per 100 better when he's on the court (likely due to his defense remaining solid despite his offensive struggles).  Anyone on this list you think might be a bargain acquisition?

PH and jerome are about the only ones on theist who entices me.  PJ has had good and bad moments this year and was much better last year.  He can play the 4 and 5.  He can space the floor.  He'd be a good backup big. 

Jerome is what we want Nesmith to be so I'd rather give Nesmith minutes vs trading for Jerome.

Jerome can also play PG.  That's not Nesmith.

Is he any good at it?  From what I saw when he played he seemed more of a SG.  If he can play better backup minutes then PP that would be great

I think he's backup quality.  More of a guard who can help keep the ball moving rather than a pure floor general or a guy who creates a ton off the dribble for others, but he wouldn't be out of place for 10-15 minutes a night as the PG if he's paired with another distributor.  If you view PP as sort of a Schroder-type who dribbles all over, sometimes makes a great play, but also can really break the flow of the offense, Jerome is more like a Smart-type.  Shooting comes and goes, better off the catch than the dribble (especially from the corner), can make the right read in the offense, but is best when he redirects the flow of the offense with a pass than by dribbling.  He drives to pass more than he drives to score.

He's also much bigger than Pritchard, so he won't get abused defensively the same way.  I think he'd be better than PP as our backup, as I think his style of play fits better if nothing else.  I also can't imagine he'd be very expensive to acquire (and might even be free).  The Thunder have a lot of younger guards they want to play with higher upside, and probably won't miss him or the $4.2 million he's guaranteed next season.

I'd like this whole conversation to be moot and get Derrick White from the spurs.  I feel he's a major upgrade over smart.  If the cs could turn smart Into him I'd be elated.  Move Schroder and keep Richardson.

I continue to not understand the Derrick White fascination. I don't understand why fans can see that we have one of a type of player, and be dying for another one. We should acquire players who balance the team, not the other way around.