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Quote from: Hoopvortex on August 12, 2021, 11:39:40 AMQuote from: Jvalin on August 12, 2021, 11:09:07 AMQuote from: Hoopvortex on August 12, 2021, 10:54:59 AMQuote from: Jvalin on August 12, 2021, 06:04:22 AMWhere do you rank the C's among their Eastern Conference rivals?Are we legit contenders or are we pretenders? Imo, the Nets are the team to beat assuming the big 3 stay healthy. I believe the Bucks are a close second. Obviously, they are the reigning champs. They re-signed Portis on a bargain contract. Their most notable additions were Grayson Allen and George Hill. They lost Tucker and Forbes. Talent-wise, the Sixers are an elite team. Really don't like the fit of Embiid and Simmons playing next to each other.The Heat are a force to be reckoned with. They signed 2 battle-hardened vets in Lowry and Tucker. Well coached team as well. Spo is one of the best coaches in the NBA.I'm relatively low on the Hawks, but maybe that's just me cause I'm low on Trae. I reckon he's a great shot creator in fast-paced games (=regular season). Not so much in slow-paced games. He ain't tall/long enough to consistently create his own shot in the clutch. Don't rate his BBIQ either. The Bulls seem like a completely overhauled team. Love the fit of Lonzo next to LaVine. I believe they overpaid for DeRozan, but that's another story. Basketbal-wise, he's a nice player. Not sure what to expect from them tbh. Too many changes. They'll definitely be a playoff team. Not sure what to expect from the Knicks either. At the end of the day, they are still the Knicks. Charlotte has a super deep roster at the (s)wing positions. I believe they'll make the postseason.Indy's biggest move was hiring Carlisle. They are a tough team to beat, that's for sure.I'm low on the Wizards. Don't think they'll make the playoffs. If they have an underperforming season, it's possible that Beal will become available at the trade deadline.As for the Celtics, I like most of our moves. I'd probably rank us somewhere in the 4-6 range. Worst case scenario, I guess we could end up in the 7th seed, just like we did last season. Best case scenario, I could see us being a top 3 team. Imo, this is a bridge year unless we make a big move at the deadline. We are well-positioned to go after a 3rd star either via trade or via the 2022 free agency.Interested in reading your thoughts.No mention of Toronto here, and no surprise since Lowry is gone and Siakam's stock went down last season. But the Raptors are going to be very good, especially in the second half of the season.Agreed that they are in the conversation, but imo they'll be a lotto team. The way I see it, they got plenty of valuable role players, but they need a legit go-to scorer. I mean, who's their #1 option in the half court? Probably 6'1'' Fred VanVleet? Siakam is more of an open-court player rather than a half-court player.If they underperform during the early months of the regular season, I bet Siakam will become available at the trade deadline (especially since they drafted Scottie Barnes).Good point about go-to scorers. And Siakam might not even start the season because of his surgery. Toronto will certainly be the most open-court team in the league, to follow on your point. By the same token, they'll be one of the best defensive teams - in fact, I'm predicting that they'll lead the league with a gap. Barnes is ready to play defense now, just as he is not ready to be a go-to scorer.As much as Boston, Toronto's last season was snakebit with Covid and injuries; and they even lost their home court. No one in consequence is more undervalued than Siakam and the Raptors as a whole.I think that Siakam stays.I like them better than the Bulls and Wiz and Knicks. I think that the Sixers have a real chance of imploding. I share your doubts about Trae and the Hawks.Open-court teams usualy concede plenty of points. It's not rocket science. Up-tempo game = more possessions for both teams = more shot attempts for both teams = more points conceded for both teams.
Quote from: Jvalin on August 12, 2021, 11:09:07 AMQuote from: Hoopvortex on August 12, 2021, 10:54:59 AMQuote from: Jvalin on August 12, 2021, 06:04:22 AMWhere do you rank the C's among their Eastern Conference rivals?Are we legit contenders or are we pretenders? Imo, the Nets are the team to beat assuming the big 3 stay healthy. I believe the Bucks are a close second. Obviously, they are the reigning champs. They re-signed Portis on a bargain contract. Their most notable additions were Grayson Allen and George Hill. They lost Tucker and Forbes. Talent-wise, the Sixers are an elite team. Really don't like the fit of Embiid and Simmons playing next to each other.The Heat are a force to be reckoned with. They signed 2 battle-hardened vets in Lowry and Tucker. Well coached team as well. Spo is one of the best coaches in the NBA.I'm relatively low on the Hawks, but maybe that's just me cause I'm low on Trae. I reckon he's a great shot creator in fast-paced games (=regular season). Not so much in slow-paced games. He ain't tall/long enough to consistently create his own shot in the clutch. Don't rate his BBIQ either. The Bulls seem like a completely overhauled team. Love the fit of Lonzo next to LaVine. I believe they overpaid for DeRozan, but that's another story. Basketbal-wise, he's a nice player. Not sure what to expect from them tbh. Too many changes. They'll definitely be a playoff team. Not sure what to expect from the Knicks either. At the end of the day, they are still the Knicks. Charlotte has a super deep roster at the (s)wing positions. I believe they'll make the postseason.Indy's biggest move was hiring Carlisle. They are a tough team to beat, that's for sure.I'm low on the Wizards. Don't think they'll make the playoffs. If they have an underperforming season, it's possible that Beal will become available at the trade deadline.As for the Celtics, I like most of our moves. I'd probably rank us somewhere in the 4-6 range. Worst case scenario, I guess we could end up in the 7th seed, just like we did last season. Best case scenario, I could see us being a top 3 team. Imo, this is a bridge year unless we make a big move at the deadline. We are well-positioned to go after a 3rd star either via trade or via the 2022 free agency.Interested in reading your thoughts.No mention of Toronto here, and no surprise since Lowry is gone and Siakam's stock went down last season. But the Raptors are going to be very good, especially in the second half of the season.Agreed that they are in the conversation, but imo they'll be a lotto team. The way I see it, they got plenty of valuable role players, but they need a legit go-to scorer. I mean, who's their #1 option in the half court? Probably 6'1'' Fred VanVleet? Siakam is more of an open-court player rather than a half-court player.If they underperform during the early months of the regular season, I bet Siakam will become available at the trade deadline (especially since they drafted Scottie Barnes).Good point about go-to scorers. And Siakam might not even start the season because of his surgery. Toronto will certainly be the most open-court team in the league, to follow on your point. By the same token, they'll be one of the best defensive teams - in fact, I'm predicting that they'll lead the league with a gap. Barnes is ready to play defense now, just as he is not ready to be a go-to scorer.As much as Boston, Toronto's last season was snakebit with Covid and injuries; and they even lost their home court. No one in consequence is more undervalued than Siakam and the Raptors as a whole.I think that Siakam stays.I like them better than the Bulls and Wiz and Knicks. I think that the Sixers have a real chance of imploding. I share your doubts about Trae and the Hawks.
Quote from: Hoopvortex on August 12, 2021, 10:54:59 AMQuote from: Jvalin on August 12, 2021, 06:04:22 AMWhere do you rank the C's among their Eastern Conference rivals?Are we legit contenders or are we pretenders? Imo, the Nets are the team to beat assuming the big 3 stay healthy. I believe the Bucks are a close second. Obviously, they are the reigning champs. They re-signed Portis on a bargain contract. Their most notable additions were Grayson Allen and George Hill. They lost Tucker and Forbes. Talent-wise, the Sixers are an elite team. Really don't like the fit of Embiid and Simmons playing next to each other.The Heat are a force to be reckoned with. They signed 2 battle-hardened vets in Lowry and Tucker. Well coached team as well. Spo is one of the best coaches in the NBA.I'm relatively low on the Hawks, but maybe that's just me cause I'm low on Trae. I reckon he's a great shot creator in fast-paced games (=regular season). Not so much in slow-paced games. He ain't tall/long enough to consistently create his own shot in the clutch. Don't rate his BBIQ either. The Bulls seem like a completely overhauled team. Love the fit of Lonzo next to LaVine. I believe they overpaid for DeRozan, but that's another story. Basketbal-wise, he's a nice player. Not sure what to expect from them tbh. Too many changes. They'll definitely be a playoff team. Not sure what to expect from the Knicks either. At the end of the day, they are still the Knicks. Charlotte has a super deep roster at the (s)wing positions. I believe they'll make the postseason.Indy's biggest move was hiring Carlisle. They are a tough team to beat, that's for sure.I'm low on the Wizards. Don't think they'll make the playoffs. If they have an underperforming season, it's possible that Beal will become available at the trade deadline.As for the Celtics, I like most of our moves. I'd probably rank us somewhere in the 4-6 range. Worst case scenario, I guess we could end up in the 7th seed, just like we did last season. Best case scenario, I could see us being a top 3 team. Imo, this is a bridge year unless we make a big move at the deadline. We are well-positioned to go after a 3rd star either via trade or via the 2022 free agency.Interested in reading your thoughts.No mention of Toronto here, and no surprise since Lowry is gone and Siakam's stock went down last season. But the Raptors are going to be very good, especially in the second half of the season.Agreed that they are in the conversation, but imo they'll be a lotto team. The way I see it, they got plenty of valuable role players, but they need a legit go-to scorer. I mean, who's their #1 option in the half court? Probably 6'1'' Fred VanVleet? Siakam is more of an open-court player rather than a half-court player.If they underperform during the early months of the regular season, I bet Siakam will become available at the trade deadline (especially since they drafted Scottie Barnes).
Quote from: Jvalin on August 12, 2021, 06:04:22 AMWhere do you rank the C's among their Eastern Conference rivals?Are we legit contenders or are we pretenders? Imo, the Nets are the team to beat assuming the big 3 stay healthy. I believe the Bucks are a close second. Obviously, they are the reigning champs. They re-signed Portis on a bargain contract. Their most notable additions were Grayson Allen and George Hill. They lost Tucker and Forbes. Talent-wise, the Sixers are an elite team. Really don't like the fit of Embiid and Simmons playing next to each other.The Heat are a force to be reckoned with. They signed 2 battle-hardened vets in Lowry and Tucker. Well coached team as well. Spo is one of the best coaches in the NBA.I'm relatively low on the Hawks, but maybe that's just me cause I'm low on Trae. I reckon he's a great shot creator in fast-paced games (=regular season). Not so much in slow-paced games. He ain't tall/long enough to consistently create his own shot in the clutch. Don't rate his BBIQ either. The Bulls seem like a completely overhauled team. Love the fit of Lonzo next to LaVine. I believe they overpaid for DeRozan, but that's another story. Basketbal-wise, he's a nice player. Not sure what to expect from them tbh. Too many changes. They'll definitely be a playoff team. Not sure what to expect from the Knicks either. At the end of the day, they are still the Knicks. Charlotte has a super deep roster at the (s)wing positions. I believe they'll make the postseason.Indy's biggest move was hiring Carlisle. They are a tough team to beat, that's for sure.I'm low on the Wizards. Don't think they'll make the playoffs. If they have an underperforming season, it's possible that Beal will become available at the trade deadline.As for the Celtics, I like most of our moves. I'd probably rank us somewhere in the 4-6 range. Worst case scenario, I guess we could end up in the 7th seed, just like we did last season. Best case scenario, I could see us being a top 3 team. Imo, this is a bridge year unless we make a big move at the deadline. We are well-positioned to go after a 3rd star either via trade or via the 2022 free agency.Interested in reading your thoughts.No mention of Toronto here, and no surprise since Lowry is gone and Siakam's stock went down last season. But the Raptors are going to be very good, especially in the second half of the season.
Where do you rank the C's among their Eastern Conference rivals?Are we legit contenders or are we pretenders? Imo, the Nets are the team to beat assuming the big 3 stay healthy. I believe the Bucks are a close second. Obviously, they are the reigning champs. They re-signed Portis on a bargain contract. Their most notable additions were Grayson Allen and George Hill. They lost Tucker and Forbes. Talent-wise, the Sixers are an elite team. Really don't like the fit of Embiid and Simmons playing next to each other.The Heat are a force to be reckoned with. They signed 2 battle-hardened vets in Lowry and Tucker. Well coached team as well. Spo is one of the best coaches in the NBA.I'm relatively low on the Hawks, but maybe that's just me cause I'm low on Trae. I reckon he's a great shot creator in fast-paced games (=regular season). Not so much in slow-paced games. He ain't tall/long enough to consistently create his own shot in the clutch. Don't rate his BBIQ either. The Bulls seem like a completely overhauled team. Love the fit of Lonzo next to LaVine. I believe they overpaid for DeRozan, but that's another story. Basketbal-wise, he's a nice player. Not sure what to expect from them tbh. Too many changes. They'll definitely be a playoff team. Not sure what to expect from the Knicks either. At the end of the day, they are still the Knicks. Charlotte has a super deep roster at the (s)wing positions. I believe they'll make the postseason.Indy's biggest move was hiring Carlisle. They are a tough team to beat, that's for sure.I'm low on the Wizards. Don't think they'll make the playoffs. If they have an underperforming season, it's possible that Beal will become available at the trade deadline.As for the Celtics, I like most of our moves. I'd probably rank us somewhere in the 4-6 range. Worst case scenario, I guess we could end up in the 7th seed, just like we did last season. Best case scenario, I could see us being a top 3 team. Imo, this is a bridge year unless we make a big move at the deadline. We are well-positioned to go after a 3rd star either via trade or via the 2022 free agency.Interested in reading your thoughts.
Imo, the Raps will suck. If you ask me, they should want to suck too. They need to find a legit go-to scorer with a view to surrounding him with their promising role players. No point in trying to compete till they get that player. They clearly aren't ready yet.