Celtics Summer League

[Goldstar88]

Payton did enough. SL wins and losses mean nothing. A SL Championship means less than nothing. Pritchard proved he is very capable 2nd year PG that deserves 20 MPG or more(if someone gets traded or hurt). Kid can flat out play.

You’re right, but I selfishly wanted to see him play more. Wish they would make summer league a month long. It’s entertaining and a lot of people are showing up to the games.

[radiohead]

Now that Payton is out, Yam has a golden opportunity to show how NBA ready his game is. I hope he gets extended minutes the rest of the way.

[nickagneta]

Now that Payton is out, Yam has a golden opportunity to show how NBA ready his game is. I hope he gets extended minutes the rest of the way.

From the 3 games I have seen, I think it fairly obvious Yam is not NBA ready. Begarin is more NBA ready but even he needs more maturation and work on his game before making the leap to the NBA.

I say give both another year overseas then bring both in as developmental players next year. Some of the end of bench talent the Celtics currently have will be gone and a couple of roster spots should open up.

Thing is, if Beal comes to Boston via trade or free agency, the Celtics will need to add some cheap players. Yam and Begarin will help with that.

[Ed Monix]

Has anyone seen Yurtseven play for the Heat?

Summer League vs GSW: https://youtu.be/zLGfojMxpeI

Summer League vs Lakers: https://youtu.be/yuvL4ZCk4hY

The guy is literally what our team is missing and would either be a cheap non-guaranteed deal or a two way contract.

I’ve got to give it to Riley and his staff in Miami, they always get and develop the best undrafted guys.

I feel this has been the franchise’s only major failing since Wyc purchased the team. The Celtics have never developed a G-League prospect that I can remember in the last decade.

[nickagneta]

Has anyone seen Yurtseven play for the Heat?

The guy is literally what our team is missing and would either be a cheap non-guaranteed deal or a two way contract.

I’ve got to give it to Riley and his staff in Miami, they always get and develop the best undrafted guys.

I feel this has been the franchise’s only major failing since Wyc purchased the team. The Celtics have never developed a G-League prospect that I can remember in the last decade.

Who cares if they don't develop undrafted/G League players. It's hard enough developing late 1st and 2nd rounders. Concentrate on that and be successful at that first, then we can get critical of the team for not developing guys that 30 GMs passed on...twice.

[Ed Monix]

Has anyone seen Yurtseven play for the Heat?

The guy is literally what our team is missing and would either be a cheap non-guaranteed deal or a two way contract.

I’ve got to give it to Riley and his staff in Miami, they always get and develop the best undrafted guys.

I feel this has been the franchise’s only major failing since Wyc purchased the team. The Celtics have never developed a G-League prospect that I can remember in the last decade.

Who cares if they don't develop undrafted/G League players. It's hard enough developing late 1st and 2nd rounders. Concentrate on that and be successful at that first, then we can get critical of the team for not developing guys that 30 GMs passed on...twice.

I understood where you’re coming from but there are reasons why guys go undrafted and it simply can be they need more development and most teams don’t have the patience.

It’s also important because it’s how successful teams improve or make a jump by finding uncut gems. Although some teams don’t always bring them in first they do develop key role playing that lead to a championship or elevate their team to another level.

- Ben Wallace (undrafted)

- Brad Miller (undrafted)

- Bruce Bowen (undrafted)

- Manu Ginobili (59th pick)

- JJ Barea (undrafted)

- Udonis Haslem (undrafted)

- Wes Matthews (undrafted)

- Matthew Dellavedova (undrafted)

- Seth Curry (undrafted)

- Isaiah Thomas (60th pick)

- Joe Ingles (undrafted)

- Aron Baynes (undrafted)

- Duncan Robinson (undrafted)

- Chris Boucher (undrafted)

- Kendrick Nunn (undrafted)

- Fred Van Vleet (undrafted)

[Goldstar88]

Has anyone seen Yurtseven play for the Heat?

The guy is literally what our team is missing and would either be a cheap non-guaranteed deal or a two way contract.

I’ve got to give it to Riley and his staff in Miami, they always get and develop the best undrafted guys.

I feel this has been the franchise’s only major failing since Wyc purchased the team. The Celtics have never developed a G-League prospect that I can remember in the last decade.

Who cares if they don't develop undrafted/G League players. It's hard enough developing late 1st and 2nd rounders. Concentrate on that and be successful at that first, then we can get critical of the team for not developing guys that 30 GMs passed on...twice.

I understood where you’re coming from but there are reasons why guys go undrafted and it simply can be they need more development and most teams don’t have the patience.

It’s also important because it’s how successful teams improve or make a jump by finding uncut gems. Although some teams don’t always bring them in first they do develop key role playing that lead to a championship or elevate their team to another level.

- Ben Wallace (undrafted)

- Brad Miller (undrafted)

- Bruce Bowen (undrafted)

- Manu Ginobili (59th pick)

- JJ Barea (undrafted)

- Udonis Haslem (undrafted)

- Wes Matthews (undrafted)

- Matthew Dellavedova (undrafted)

- Seth Curry (undrafted)

- Isaiah Thomas (60th pick)

- Joe Ingles (undrafted)

- Aron Baynes (undrafted)

- Duncan Robinson (undrafted)

- Chris Boucher (undrafted)

- Kendrick Nunn (undrafted)

- Fred Van Vleet (undrafted)

And that’s why I’m so glad that Tacko and Waters are gone. I hope that Edwards and Grant follow suit. These guys have no upside. Roll the dice on players with the physical tools to have a chance of making it. Hauser looks promising. decent size, seems to know his role and is a lights out shooter.  Begarin has good size and athleticism, Raw Offensively, but he can improve on that. Can’t learn height and athleticism...

[Ed Monix]

Has anyone seen Yurtseven play for the Heat?

The guy is literally what our team is missing and would either be a cheap non-guaranteed deal or a two way contract.

I’ve got to give it to Riley and his staff in Miami, they always get and develop the best undrafted guys.

I feel this has been the franchise’s only major failing since Wyc purchased the team. The Celtics have never developed a G-League prospect that I can remember in the last decade.

Who cares if they don't develop undrafted/G League players. It's hard enough developing late 1st and 2nd rounders. Concentrate on that and be successful at that first, then we can get critical of the team for not developing guys that 30 GMs passed on...twice.

I understood where you’re coming from but there are reasons why guys go undrafted and it simply can be they need more development and most teams don’t have the patience.

It’s also important because it’s how successful teams improve or make a jump by finding uncut gems. Although some teams don’t always bring them in first they do develop key role playing that lead to a championship or elevate their team to another level.

- Ben Wallace (undrafted)

- Brad Miller (undrafted)

- Bruce Bowen (undrafted)

- Manu Ginobili (59th pick)

- JJ Barea (undrafted)

- Udonis Haslem (undrafted)

- Wes Matthews (undrafted)

- Matthew Dellavedova (undrafted)

- Seth Curry (undrafted)

- Isaiah Thomas (60th pick)

- Joe Ingles (undrafted)

- Aron Baynes (undrafted)

- Duncan Robinson (undrafted)

- Chris Boucher (undrafted)

- Kendrick Nunn (undrafted)

- Fred Van Vleet (undrafted)

And that’s why I’m so glad that Tacko and Waters are gone. I hope that Edwards and Grant follow suit. These guys have no upside. Roll the dice on players with the physical tools to have a chance of making it. Hauser looks promising. decent size, seems to know his role and is a lights out shooter.  Begarin has good size and athleticism, Raw Offensively, but he can improve on that. Can’t learn height and athleticism...

Yeah 100% I am with you.

I’m an Ainge guy but both of those signings were one of his biggest mistakes as a GM.

The Tacko Fall signing in particular made no sense. Guys his size usually take half a decade (at best) until they can contribute on an NBA level. Waters is obviously short but he doesn’t have a specific trait that I can see which would compensate for being undersized, e.g Isaiah Thomas has a huge wingspan and vertical leap.

The only thing I can gather is Ainge overcompensated to the teams culture issues, because Grant & Tacko are highly intelligent great guys. If Tacko’s playing career doesn’t work out, I’m sure he’d make a great basketball coach or manager.

[nickagneta]

You are truly hilarious.

First a list of 10-15 guys from a time span of nearly three decades, with a lot of those guys being little more than "just another guy" type players. 30 years, you came up with 15 guys to make your point. Out of the whole league. And you had to include some drafted players just to get to your number of examples.

Also, one of the drafted guys actually reached his full potential because Danny traded for him after Danny was really high on him when he was drafted. Danny kept an eye on him and got him dirt cheap

I think it's pretty clear that some GMs found a needle in a haystack, which is what finding that really good undrafted player really is.

And my word. Let me quote this so as not to misquote you.

I’m an Ainge guy but both of those signings were one of his biggest mistakes as a GM.

His biggest mistakes as a GM was having Tacko and Waters on two way contracts for 2 years? Really?

Not trading away Perk.
Not failing to bring back James Posey
Not drafting Olynyk after he personally scouted Giannis.
Not trading for Kyrie.
Not signing Kemba.
Not the handling of Ray Allen in those last couple years.
Not constantly giving his coach bad benches filled with youth
Not signing and trading Hayward to Indiana.

You're going to go with Tacko and Waters, 2 two-way players that didn't develop as one of his biggest mistakes.

Wow.

[mobilija]

Bruce Bowen played 92 of his first 91 NBA games for the Boston Celtics. Just saying....

[Birdman]

U really can’t judge a college player heart & mind..they made be athletic but will they put in that extra work off the court

[trickybilly]

Nice vid to give hope:

https://youtu.be/fKiC3d39ik8

[Ogaju]

Bruce Bowen played 92 of his first 91 NBA games for the Boston Celtics. Just saying....

That feat alone should put Bruce in Celtics lore.

[tstorey_97]

When the fans and media put Ainge's "post big three GM legacy" on trial in the future so very much will hang on these players...

Pritchard #26
Nesmith #14
Robert W #27
Grant #22
Romeo #14

They are all still on the roster. If he can get two "6th man" types out of that bunch it's a success right? Nesmith will "spot" start games soon and Pritchard too. Robert and Romeo already have and they all have playoff minutes.

During the season last year I'd be watching a game and there'd be five of Ainge's first rounders on the court together. That may mean our team was "too young", but, this has been a "long bridge" from the big three.

Look at that 5 guys, if you started that lineup for a NBA season they'd win a couple of games against terrible teams.

My point is with those middling draft picks Ainge might have some guys getting legit playoff minutes if not this season assuredly next.

Pritchard's summer league highlights aside, if there are injuries he can start with the starters and win that game. Nesmith is on his way there too.

Robert couldn't do much with Embiid that night, but he was smoking against the Nets before he got hurt for the 14th time. Grant was not a defensive liability in the Net's series and really has been a solid defender in his career.

Ainge has a shot at a good legacy built around the J's. He was in Vegas the other night watching the game....those are all his guys.

(Kind of a Dan Duquette Red Sox 2004 thing)

[Celtics4ever]

Not trading away Perk.
Not failing to bring back James Posey
Not drafting Olynyk after he personally scouted Giannis.
Not trading for Kyrie.
Not signing Kemba.
Not the handling of Ray Allen in those last couple years.
Not constantly giving his coach bad benches filled with youth
Not signing and trading Hayward to Indiana.

2019 Draft should be up there too.  If Romeo does not pan out it was a stinker.