I feel like people are being harsh on Siakam. He's a 22/7/4 guy in his athletic prime, plays good versatile defence and will be a fringe All-Star probably for the duration of his contract. The problem is Toronto expecting him to be a #1 guy when he's not.
I think Wiggins, Wiseman and #14 for Siakam and Baynes is a fair deal for both sides.
He's being paid like the #1 guy and performing like a volume shooter Marcus Smart. So the harshness is warranted.
Well, not really. Siakam's field goal % over the last two seasons has been 7% higher than Smart's, because he shoots less threes in more minutes. He also generates significantly more free throws.
I think you're pretty wildly overreacting to one bad 3 point shooting season, given Siakam was a 36.3% shooter from deep on 4.1 attempts over the previous two seasons
I'm looking at his TS% and eFG%, particularly after Leonard left... he's been trending down. Better overall than Smart in these regards, but not significantly so that I'm paying him $30M+ for. When you look at the career you see that the Leonard season is the outlier.
The point is .. those stats would re-improve back to when Leonard was the #1
He is a little overpaid for sure. But Raps had to do it in order to keep him
"A LITTLE"?
I don't see why he would re-improve as a given when the 1 season with Leonard was an exception, that's a lots of ifs for 3 years of $33,003,936, $35,448,672, $37,893,408.
I think that's more palatable than Wiggins at $31,579,390 and $33,616,770 over the next two.
I'm also not sure what you're getting at. Is it the exception because Leonard was there to take the offensive load, much like Curry would be?
Why is it more palatable? Wiggins played well for them, so he's a more known commodity. You're trading that for a player who had 2 down years in a row, more expensive, and paid longer... doesn't make sense on that regard.
What I'm getting at is that he had 1 good season, and it was a particularly exceptional season for that team. He hasn't show that the performance is repeatable. He MAY perform like that again, but it's a big question mark for 3 big contract years. I'd shy away from it.
I just don't see the interest. I think he'd work well in the end, but why the expensive risk when Wiggins is already working for you.
How did Siakam have two down years?
He made all NBA team previous to this season.
He wasn't great against the Celtics in the playoffs. But again, thats due to #1 pressures
Has Wiggins ever made All NBA Team? he has improved ... especially since joining the GSW. But is still more of a "empty stat" stuffer.
Siakam is a better versatile/taller defender. He can go on nasty streaks within games/where he keeps attacking the basket. Making it tough for opponents
Even though both are #2/#3 option types. Siakam is in the top 3-4 range in this category. Vs Wiggins who is more in the 8-10 range
The contrast in the lineup would also be beneficial for GSW. Having Curry/Thompson around the perimeter. And having a tallish F in Siakam attacking the basket/scoring in other ways than shooting
You think that matters? It tells me that there was a lack of quality forwards in the 2019-2020 season.
You know who also made the All-NBA that year? Tatum, who in my opinion had a better season that Siakam, not only that, improved upon that year and didn't make it THIS year. So yeah, not much competition for those spots when they both made it, even if we argue that Tatum should've this year.
Toronto gave that contract to a player that shot over 55% from the field, eFG of 60%, and TS% of 64%... he hasn't sniffed that since then. Not even close.
So yes, he had 2 down years. Not terrible, useful, but not $30M+ useful.
I don't care if Wiggins made an All-NBA or not. I do know that Wiggins overall worked for this Golden State team, so why are you guys so sure of taking a risk on a player who has underperformed after getting his big contract and has a worse contract than the guy you want to replace him with? And the difference in fit is questionable.
As I said, I have little doubt that Siakam should work. I'm not all that positive if he'll work better than Wiggins does currently, and then you add that you're giving extra assets away + have an extra year on what IS a terrible contract.
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