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Re: Players writing columns in the middle of a Playoff run
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2021, 07:38:02 PM »

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Honestly, he probably spent an hour on this.  I fully expect that almost all of the players are playing video games, posting on social media, etc. way more than they are writing or contributing to articles.

That said, I haven’t even clicked the link.  If he’s sharing team secrets or causing dissension or distraction with his teammates, that’s a different issue entirely. But I assume that’s not it.

I read over it, but don't think it does or should. Doesn't the column existence by by itself intrinsically have the potential of distraction regardless of the content? That's part of the issue I have with this. I guess in that regard it's about the same of doing an a full on interview (which he also did coincidentally).

But if you guys have no problem with it, then I guess it's just me... and no I don't have problems with playing video games and what not, but I do think they spend too much time in social media for their own good and often getting into needless spats, but to each their own.
Content matters.  I would be disappointed in any poster here who has not clicked on the article.  If he wrote about zen & the art of motorcycle maintenance (not the book by the same name, but literally that topic), I would have no problem whatsoever with him writing it and sharing publicly.

BUT, he wrote about the current series that his team in involved in.  This is bad form and if I am Hawks management, I would have a problem with it.

Why would you be disappointed in any poster that did not click on article? Do you mean any poster commenting on the article or just any poster?

I don’t know about Collin’s article as I do not care to read it yet.

I know that as entertaining Trae Young’s shimmy was it was way to early in the series for that. Looks like  it really lit a fire under Giannis. Why would you want to do that?
Yes, any poster commenting on the article should read the article.  Content matters...read the rest of my post.

Well, the question was more so about writing an article, not this particular article... though part of your point is that content does matter. To me it doesn't in the end, just the potential alone of being an issue is enough to shy away of it.

So I don't think people needed to read it to comment in this thread, since that was not really the discussion.

Re: Players writing columns in the middle of a Playoff run
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2021, 09:45:29 PM »

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Honestly, he probably spent an hour on this.  I fully expect that almost all of the players are playing video games, posting on social media, etc. way more than they are writing or contributing to articles.

That said, I haven’t even clicked the link.  If he’s sharing team secrets or causing dissension or distraction with his teammates, that’s a different issue entirely. But I assume that’s not it.

I read over it, but don't think it does or should. Doesn't the column existence by by itself intrinsically have the potential of distraction regardless of the content? That's part of the issue I have with this. I guess in that regard it's about the same of doing an a full on interview (which he also did coincidentally).

But if you guys have no problem with it, then I guess it's just me... and no I don't have problems with playing video games and what not, but I do think they spend too much time in social media for their own good and often getting into needless spats, but to each their own.
Content matters.  I would be disappointed in any poster here who has not clicked on the article.  If he wrote about zen & the art of motorcycle maintenance (not the book by the same name, but literally that topic), I would have no problem whatsoever with him writing it and sharing publicly.

BUT, he wrote about the current series that his team in involved in.  This is bad form and if I am Hawks management, I would have a problem with it.

Why would you be disappointed in any poster that did not click on article? Do you mean any poster commenting on the article or just any poster?

I don’t know about Collin’s article as I do not care to read it yet.

I know that as entertaining Trae Young’s shimmy was it was way to early in the series for that. Looks like  it really lit a fire under Giannis. Why would you want to do that?
Yes, any poster commenting on the article should read the article.  Content matters...read the rest of my post.

Well, the question was more so about writing an article, not this particular article... though part of your point is that content does matter. To me it doesn't in the end, just the potential alone of being an issue is enough to shy away of it.

So I don't think people needed to read it to comment in this thread, since that was not really the discussion.
That is not the way I interpreted it. You need to click on the article to see the activity that is in question. Can he write an article about gardening, for example?  What else is restricted during a playoff run?  Volunteering at a soup kitchen?  I am being facetious to illustrate the point that content not only matters, it is the ONLY thing that matters.

Re: Players writing columns in the middle of a Playoff run
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2021, 09:56:13 PM »

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Honestly, he probably spent an hour on this.  I fully expect that almost all of the players are playing video games, posting on social media, etc. way more than they are writing or contributing to articles.

That said, I haven’t even clicked the link.  If he’s sharing team secrets or causing dissension or distraction with his teammates, that’s a different issue entirely. But I assume that’s not it.

I read over it, but don't think it does or should. Doesn't the column existence by by itself intrinsically have the potential of distraction regardless of the content? That's part of the issue I have with this. I guess in that regard it's about the same of doing an a full on interview (which he also did coincidentally).

But if you guys have no problem with it, then I guess it's just me... and no I don't have problems with playing video games and what not, but I do think they spend too much time in social media for their own good and often getting into needless spats, but to each their own.
Content matters.  I would be disappointed in any poster here who has not clicked on the article.  If he wrote about zen & the art of motorcycle maintenance (not the book by the same name, but literally that topic), I would have no problem whatsoever with him writing it and sharing publicly.

BUT, he wrote about the current series that his team in involved in.  This is bad form and if I am Hawks management, I would have a problem with it.

Why would you be disappointed in any poster that did not click on article? Do you mean any poster commenting on the article or just any poster?

I don’t know about Collin’s article as I do not care to read it yet.

I know that as entertaining Trae Young’s shimmy was it was way to early in the series for that. Looks like  it really lit a fire under Giannis. Why would you want to do that?
Yes, any poster commenting on the article should read the article.  Content matters...read the rest of my post.

Well, the question was more so about writing an article, not this particular article... though part of your point is that content does matter. To me it doesn't in the end, just the potential alone of being an issue is enough to shy away of it.

So I don't think people needed to read it to comment in this thread, since that was not really the discussion.
That is not the way I interpreted it. You need to click on the article to see the activity that is in question. Can he write an article about gardening, for example?  What else is restricted during a playoff run?  Volunteering at a soup kitchen?  I am being facetious to illustrate the point that content not only matters, it is the ONLY thing that matters.

I just don't view writing columns as a stress free activity. I think it's a needless stressor regardless of content with other potential detriments within your teammates (this may be were content comes in, but not exclusive to it) which may or may not happen. But then again, players are used to the limelight...

Not all see it that way, and it may be much ado about nothing. Personally, I hope I don't see Tatum, or Smart, or Brown writing a columns during the Playoffs... even less after bad losses including a particularly embarrassing one.

Re: Players writing columns in the middle of a Playoff run
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2021, 11:33:22 PM »

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Is it okay if the players watch a movie during the playoffs? Plays some video games?  Reads a book?

What do you think these guys are doing all day?  Playing every other day  that's ~45 hours between when one game ends and the next game starts.

He could spend 20 hours sleeping (8 hours per day + 2 hour nap * 2)
He could spend 10 hours practicing, working out, watching film.
We'll give him a very generous 4 hours for pre-game warmups, post-game cool down.

Dude still has >10 hours of nothing to fill his days with.

What do you think he should be doing to fill his time?

At that age with all that testosterone ..I give you one guess.

He def should not be playing.he should be resting physically. Get his body rested for the next game, remove stress from his mind in whatever outlet that allows him to.

Most of the time anyways these guys use ghost writers. They share their thoughts in maybe a 30 minute interview then the ghost writers write up the piece for them

Re: Players writing columns in the middle of a Playoff run
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2021, 11:41:46 PM »

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No real issue with this. Similar thinking to others - players play video games, watch movies, make and listen to music, etc. They have spare time just like anybody else.

Would probably be counter-intuitive for him to train too much given how gruelling this season has been (Collins has around 2200 minutes logged this year), and I know from my own experience that doing something non-work related can make me more energised to work - in his case, watching film or something
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Re: Players writing columns in the middle of a Playoff run
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2021, 01:37:46 AM »

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No real issue with this. Similar thinking to others - players play video games, watch movies, make and listen to music, etc. They have spare time just like anybody else.

Would probably be counter-intuitive for him to train too much given how gruelling this season has been (Collins has around 2200 minutes logged this year), and I know from my own experience that doing something non-work related can make me more energised to work - in his case, watching film or something

I think some are misinterpreting my position in this, or at least the dilemma I'm planting forward. I have no problem with people doing something else, I'm not even advocating that they should keep training, etc. I just have a particular issue with this particular activity itself.

Now, I understand some of you don't think this activity itself is an issue, but I just don't want this question to come off as me demanding that a player should eat and breath basketball 24/7 during the Playoffs.

But I think is fairly clear by now that I'm fairly alone in this view, but wanted to clarify that aspect.

Re: Players writing columns in the middle of a Playoff run
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2021, 02:45:55 AM »

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Honestly, he probably spent an hour on this.  I fully expect that almost all of the players are playing video games, posting on social media, etc. way more than they are writing or contributing to articles.

That said, I haven’t even clicked the link.  If he’s sharing team secrets or causing dissension or distraction with his teammates, that’s a different issue entirely. But I assume that’s not it.

I read over it, but don't think it does or should. Doesn't the column existence by by itself intrinsically have the potential of distraction regardless of the content? That's part of the issue I have with this. I guess in that regard it's about the same of doing an a full on interview (which he also did coincidentally).

But if you guys have no problem with it, then I guess it's just me... and no I don't have problems with playing video games and what not, but I do think they spend too much time in social media for their own good and often getting into needless spats, but to each their own.
Content matters.  I would be disappointed in any poster here who has not clicked on the article.  If he wrote about zen & the art of motorcycle maintenance (not the book by the same name, but literally that topic), I would have no problem whatsoever with him writing it and sharing publicly.

BUT, he wrote about the current series that his team in involved in.  This is bad form and if I am Hawks management, I would have a problem with it.

Why would you be disappointed in any poster that did not click on article? Do you mean any poster commenting on the article or just any poster?

I don’t know about Collin’s article as I do not care to read it yet.

I know that as entertaining Trae Young’s shimmy was it was way to early in the series for that. Looks like  it really lit a fire under Giannis. Why would you want to do that?
Yes, any poster commenting on the article should read the article.  Content matters...read the rest of my post.

Well, the question was more so about writing an article, not this particular article... though part of your point is that content does matter. To me it doesn't in the end, just the potential alone of being an issue is enough to shy away of it.

So I don't think people needed to read it to comment in this thread, since that was not really the discussion.
That is not the way I interpreted it. You need to click on the article to see the activity that is in question. Can he write an article about gardening, for example?  What else is restricted during a playoff run?  Volunteering at a soup kitchen?  I am being facetious to illustrate the point that content not only matters, it is the ONLY thing that matters.

I just don't view writing columns as a stress free activity. I think it's a needless stressor regardless of content with other potential detriments within your teammates (this may be were content comes in, but not exclusive to it) which may or may not happen. But then again, players are used to the limelight...

Not all see it that way, and it may be much ado about nothing. Personally, I hope I don't see Tatum, or Smart, or Brown writing a columns during the Playoffs... even less after bad losses including a particularly embarrassing one.

It's one of the most liberating things there is.

It's about putting thoughts together in a way that makes sense. And if you go into the particulars of it, it's about writing it so others understand. It's like a puzzle. Gotta put the pieces in the right place.

Having said that; I love writing, but I hate doing puzzles :) Legit, they stress me out.

And that's my point.

To each their own. We can't say what's stressful for others.

Heck, on my spare time I learn new, scary things. That's a stress reliever for me. Some people go sky-diving. Others sit in a corner with a book.

Don't yuck someone else's yum :)

Re: Players writing columns in the middle of a Playoff run
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2021, 03:33:51 AM »

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Just because it might take us forever to write a column doesn't necessarily mean it takes a player forever. He might just dictate his thoughts out for 15 mins and a writer or journalist will build a story around that. I would think that there are many things that are probably more time consuming and distracting (e.g. playing Fortnite or NBA2k but they all do it). Some people, like Jordan, went out and played golf. Others go out to the shooting range and shoot. Everyone has their own poison that helps them de-stress.  :)
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Re: Players writing columns in the middle of a Playoff run
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2021, 05:08:34 AM »

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Honestly, he probably spent an hour on this.  I fully expect that almost all of the players are playing video games, posting on social media, etc. way more than they are writing or contributing to articles.

That said, I haven’t even clicked the link.  If he’s sharing team secrets or causing dissension or distraction with his teammates, that’s a different issue entirely. But I assume that’s not it.

I read over it, but don't think it does or should. Doesn't the column existence by by itself intrinsically have the potential of distraction regardless of the content? That's part of the issue I have with this. I guess in that regard it's about the same of doing an a full on interview (which he also did coincidentally).

But if you guys have no problem with it, then I guess it's just me... and no I don't have problems with playing video games and what not, but I do think they spend too much time in social media for their own good and often getting into needless spats, but to each their own.
Content matters.  I would be disappointed in any poster here who has not clicked on the article.  If he wrote about zen & the art of motorcycle maintenance (not the book by the same name, but literally that topic), I would have no problem whatsoever with him writing it and sharing publicly.

BUT, he wrote about the current series that his team in involved in.  This is bad form and if I am Hawks management, I would have a problem with it.

Why would you be disappointed in any poster that did not click on article? Do you mean any poster commenting on the article or just any poster?

I don’t know about Collin’s article as I do not care to read it yet.

I know that as entertaining Trae Young’s shimmy was it was way to early in the series for that. Looks like  it really lit a fire under Giannis. Why would you want to do that?
Yes, any poster commenting on the article should read the article.  Content matters...read the rest of my post.

Well, the question was more so about writing an article, not this particular article... though part of your point is that content does matter. To me it doesn't in the end, just the potential alone of being an issue is enough to shy away of it.

So I don't think people needed to read it to comment in this thread, since that was not really the discussion.
That is not the way I interpreted it. You need to click on the article to see the activity that is in question. Can he write an article about gardening, for example?  What else is restricted during a playoff run?  Volunteering at a soup kitchen?  I am being facetious to illustrate the point that content not only matters, it is the ONLY thing that matters.

I just don't view writing columns as a stress free activity. I think it's a needless stressor regardless of content with other potential detriments within your teammates (this may be were content comes in, but not exclusive to it) which may or may not happen. But then again, players are used to the limelight...

Not all see it that way, and it may be much ado about nothing. Personally, I hope I don't see Tatum, or Smart, or Brown writing a columns during the Playoffs... even less after bad losses including a particularly embarrassing one.

I think you're overlooking the fact that the publication date is not necessarily tied to the date of creation. I'm going to presume that this opportunity came up between the 76ers series (finished on June 21) and the opening tip for Atl/Milwaukee. So "during" a playoff series is a bold assumption. He probably got a call from his agent, spent a little while talking to a ghostwriter (ahem, "editor"), and there we go. Then a quick phone call to update based on how the series is going with regard to the actual publishing date (hence the post-script about being down 2-1).

Also, with regards to the games on the floor, I don't think this is any more of a stressor than a post-game press conference.
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