Just wondering how many feel Kemba is unmovable.

[showtime]

Secondly, the Celtics have a ton of trade exceptions.  The $11 million left for Hayward, $5 million for Theis, near $5 million for Kanter.  The Celtics can fit players they receive back in a Kemba trade against those exceptions, so they could still get a full Kemba exception.  Say, for example, the Celtics traded Kemba to Phoenix if Paul leaves.  Phoenix doesn't quite have cap room, but if they trade Dario Saric they would.  Saric could fit into the rest of the Hayward exception, and we could get a full Kemba exception.

Interesting, I hadn't thought about it that way.  So we have TPEs at $11.0M, $5.0M, $4.8M, and $1.6M.  That is $22.4M total, so X 1.25 ($28.0M) is still short of Kemba's $36.0 but it does provide a possibility to kind of consolidate all of these smaller TPE into one bigger one.   Hard for a team to line up with all of these though but no doubt the Celtics would be able to "roll over" some of this in a trade of Kemba.

So an example would be Chicago sends Satoransky ($10M covered by TPE) and Young ($14M as incoming) for Kemba ($36M outgoing) and we end up with a $22M TPE ($36M out - $14M in).  That isn't terrible.  Then trade multiple picks to Atlanta for S&T Collins at the $22M (Using TPE), sign Fournier (if we still feel we need him), and we have a pretty big tax bill but a nicely upgraded and balanced team:

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Collins
Thompson

Pritchard, Satoransky, Fournier, Young, RWill

Edwards, Langford, Nesmith, Parker, GWill

OK, that is my new "Plan A". 

Terrific and well balance starting 5, a really good albeit expensive bench (Satoransky and Young would be expiring at least), and pretty useful deep depth players, all who can actually play when needed (maybe with Edwards being a bit of a stretch).

As long as Smart is on the floor, Tatum and Brown will be doubled by Smarts man! Smart needs to be gone!

[gouki88]

Secondly, the Celtics have a ton of trade exceptions.  The $11 million left for Hayward, $5 million for Theis, near $5 million for Kanter.  The Celtics can fit players they receive back in a Kemba trade against those exceptions, so they could still get a full Kemba exception.  Say, for example, the Celtics traded Kemba to Phoenix if Paul leaves.  Phoenix doesn't quite have cap room, but if they trade Dario Saric they would.  Saric could fit into the rest of the Hayward exception, and we could get a full Kemba exception.

Interesting, I hadn't thought about it that way.  So we have TPEs at $11.0M, $5.0M, $4.8M, and $1.6M.  That is $22.4M total, so X 1.25 ($28.0M) is still short of Kemba's $36.0 but it does provide a possibility to kind of consolidate all of these smaller TPE into one bigger one.   Hard for a team to line up with all of these though but no doubt the Celtics would be able to "roll over" some of this in a trade of Kemba.

So an example would be Chicago sends Satoransky ($10M covered by TPE) and Young ($14M as incoming) for Kemba ($36M outgoing) and we end up with a $22M TPE ($36M out - $14M in).  That isn't terrible.  Then trade multiple picks to Atlanta for S&T Collins at the $22M (Using TPE), sign Fournier (if we still feel we need him), and we have a pretty big tax bill but a nicely upgraded and balanced team:

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Collins
Thompson

Pritchard, Satoransky, Fournier, Young, RWill

Edwards, Langford, Nesmith, Parker, GWill

OK, that is my new "Plan A". 

Terrific and well balance starting 5, a really good albeit expensive bench (Satoransky and Young would be expiring at least), and pretty useful deep depth players, all who can actually play when needed (maybe with Edwards being a bit of a stretch).

That would be a really good group. I'd be tempted to start Timelord at the 5 alongside Collins as his passing and defence would be more complementary IMO, but that team would be awesome.

[dang], now I want this team!

[nickagneta]

Secondly, the Celtics have a ton of trade exceptions.  The $11 million left for Hayward, $5 million for Theis, near $5 million for Kanter.  The Celtics can fit players they receive back in a Kemba trade against those exceptions, so they could still get a full Kemba exception.  Say, for example, the Celtics traded Kemba to Phoenix if Paul leaves.  Phoenix doesn't quite have cap room, but if they trade Dario Saric they would.  Saric could fit into the rest of the Hayward exception, and we could get a full Kemba exception.

Interesting, I hadn't thought about it that way.  So we have TPEs at $11.0M, $5.0M, $4.8M, and $1.6M.  That is $22.4M total, so X 1.25 ($28.0M) is still short of Kemba's $36.0 but it does provide a possibility to kind of consolidate all of these smaller TPE into one bigger one.   Hard for a team to line up with all of these though but no doubt the Celtics would be able to "roll over" some of this in a trade of Kemba.

So an example would be Chicago sends Satoransky ($10M covered by TPE) and Young ($14M as incoming) for Kemba ($36M outgoing) and we end up with a $22M TPE ($36M out - $14M in).  That isn't terrible.  Then trade multiple picks to Atlanta for S&T Collins at the $22M (Using TPE), sign Fournier (if we still feel we need him), and we have a pretty big tax bill but a nicely upgraded and balanced team:

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Collins
Thompson

Pritchard, Satoransky, Fournier, Young, RWill

Edwards, Langford, Nesmith, Parker, GWill

OK, that is my new "Plan A". 

Terrific and well balance starting 5, a really good albeit expensive bench (Satoransky and Young would be expiring at least), and pretty useful deep depth players, all who can actually play when needed (maybe with Edwards being a bit of a stretch).

That would be a really good group. I'd be tempted to start Timelord at the 5 alongside Collins as his passing and defence would be more complementary IMO, but that team would be awesome.

[dang], now I want this team!

Yeah that's all great but probably won't happen because of that sign and trade. Not going to run the exact numbers but they don't appear to keep Boston under the apron, though I could be wrong.

Out: 
Kemba at $36 million

But in:
Satoransky at $10 million
Young at $14 million
Collins at $22 million
Fournier at...what? .....$15-20 million


Celtics currently have $134 million in guaranteed contracts and dead money for next year. The apron will be about $142 million. The proposal increases salary by $25-30 million with that sign and trade putting the team $17-22 million over the apron.

The team could not do the S&T, sign Fournier and still have the taxpayer MLE and their draft picks available and can make trades that bring in more salary, but once they use that sign and trade, everything changes.