NBA Playoffs 2021

[Celtics2021]

Funny how everyone makes injury excuses for the Lakers yet completely ignore them when it comes to other teams like the Celtics and Sixers (if Embiid's injury is serious), etc. 

Yeah, it’s interesting to see the different takes on two teams that finished the season as #7 seeds, got decimated by major injuries, and lost in the first round.

The Celtics were a middling team all season while the Lakers were the 2nd best team in the West when their injuries happened.  They just had different ceilings when fully healthy, which is why they are talked about differently.

True but we did have at least one stretch in April where we were actually healthy and we looked like a top team. Unfortunately we did not have many games where we were close to a fully healthy roster, or at least as close to fully healthy as you get in a season.

Yeah, I mean, we were never healthy from the beginning of the season until the end except for that brief stretch in the April, so the comparison to the Lakers record early in the season is meaningless.

We were leading the Lakers in the 4th quarter when Smart went down with his injury, if we want to compare three quarters of relatively healthy teams.

[Moranis]

Funny how everyone makes injury excuses for the Lakers yet completely ignore them when it comes to other teams like the Celtics and Sixers (if Embiid's injury is serious), etc. 

Yeah, it’s interesting to see the different takes on two teams that finished the season as #7 seeds, got decimated by major injuries, and lost in the first round.

The Celtics were a middling team all season while the Lakers were the 2nd best team in the West when their injuries happened.  They just had different ceilings when fully healthy, which is why they are talked about differently.

The Celtics were never healthy this season.

Exactly. I was trying to get stats but from this link, it seems Kemba, Tatum, Brown and Smart barely played together while healthy this year. Anyone have the actual totals where at least one person was missing? The link below says it barely happened at all.

https://www.lineups.com/nba/lineups/boston-celtics

Those four guys played 292 minutes together this year, but it's hard to say how many of those minutes featured all four being anywhere close to healthy.  Very few.

Kemba was really never healthy all year. 

Smart injured his calf at the end of January.

Tatum got COVID in January.

Brown had tendonitis in his left knee since at least February.



Comparison:

LeBron and AD played 601 minutes together this season.  More than double.

How many minutes did Tatum and Brown play together this season?  Why use 4 players for one team, but only 2 for the other?

[Celtics2021]

Funny how everyone makes injury excuses for the Lakers yet completely ignore them when it comes to other teams like the Celtics and Sixers (if Embiid's injury is serious), etc. 

Yeah, it’s interesting to see the different takes on two teams that finished the season as #7 seeds, got decimated by major injuries, and lost in the first round.

The Celtics were a middling team all season while the Lakers were the 2nd best team in the West when their injuries happened.  They just had different ceilings when fully healthy, which is why they are talked about differently.

The Celtics were never healthy this season.

Exactly. I was trying to get stats but from this link, it seems Kemba, Tatum, Brown and Smart barely played together while healthy this year. Anyone have the actual totals where at least one person was missing? The link below says it barely happened at all.

https://www.lineups.com/nba/lineups/boston-celtics

Those four guys played 292 minutes together this year, but it's hard to say how many of those minutes featured all four being anywhere close to healthy.  Very few.

Kemba was really never healthy all year. 

Smart injured his calf at the end of January.

Tatum got COVID in January.

Brown had tendonitis in his left knee since at least February.



Comparison:

LeBron and AD played 601 minutes together this season.  More than double.

How many minutes did Tatum and Brown play together this season?  Why use 4 players for one team, but only 2 for the other?

Because the Lakers constructed a roster based on having two superstars, whereas the Celtics had a roster based on four lesser stars.  I mean, it shows in the salaries.  LeBron and Davis made a combined $73 million compared to the ~$80 million of the Celtics top 4.  That’s much closer than comparing Davis and Lebron’s $73 million to the J’s $33 million.

[Moranis]

Funny how everyone makes injury excuses for the Lakers yet completely ignore them when it comes to other teams like the Celtics and Sixers (if Embiid's injury is serious), etc. 

Yeah, it’s interesting to see the different takes on two teams that finished the season as #7 seeds, got decimated by major injuries, and lost in the first round.

The Celtics were a middling team all season while the Lakers were the 2nd best team in the West when their injuries happened.  They just had different ceilings when fully healthy, which is why they are talked about differently.

The Celtics were never healthy this season.

Exactly. I was trying to get stats but from this link, it seems Kemba, Tatum, Brown and Smart barely played together while healthy this year. Anyone have the actual totals where at least one person was missing? The link below says it barely happened at all.

https://www.lineups.com/nba/lineups/boston-celtics

Those four guys played 292 minutes together this year, but it's hard to say how many of those minutes featured all four being anywhere close to healthy.  Very few.

Kemba was really never healthy all year. 

Smart injured his calf at the end of January.

Tatum got COVID in January.

Brown had tendonitis in his left knee since at least February.



Comparison:

LeBron and AD played 601 minutes together this season.  More than double.

How many minutes did Tatum and Brown play together this season?  Why use 4 players for one team, but only 2 for the other?

Because the Lakers constructed a roster based on having two superstars, whereas the Celtics had a roster based on four lesser stars.  I mean, it shows in the salaries.  LeBron and Davis made a combined $73 million compared to the ~$80 million of the Celtics top 4.  That’s much closer than comparing Davis and Lebron’s $73 million to the J’s $33 million.

so Tatum is Boston's 5th best player, since salary matters in that way.  Tatum is a max player, he is just on his rookie contract.  To do what you are doing makes no sense.  Schroder and KCP both make similar money to Fournier and Smart, why would they not count?

2 players are always going to play more minutes then 4 players when you include the same 2 players.  It isn't an apt comparison.  You either need to include the Lakers top 4 or just go with Boston's top 2 if you want to have a fair comparison. 

[PhoSita]

How many minutes did Tatum and Brown play together this season?  Why use 4 players for one team, but only 2 for the other?

Man how many different threads have I read your posts in where you're arguing how great LeBron and AD are and how Tatum and Brown aren't that level of player?

Come on.

[Celtics2021]

Funny how everyone makes injury excuses for the Lakers yet completely ignore them when it comes to other teams like the Celtics and Sixers (if Embiid's injury is serious), etc. 

Yeah, it’s interesting to see the different takes on two teams that finished the season as #7 seeds, got decimated by major injuries, and lost in the first round.

The Celtics were a middling team all season while the Lakers were the 2nd best team in the West when their injuries happened.  They just had different ceilings when fully healthy, which is why they are talked about differently.

The Celtics were never healthy this season.

Exactly. I was trying to get stats but from this link, it seems Kemba, Tatum, Brown and Smart barely played together while healthy this year. Anyone have the actual totals where at least one person was missing? The link below says it barely happened at all.

https://www.lineups.com/nba/lineups/boston-celtics

Those four guys played 292 minutes together this year, but it's hard to say how many of those minutes featured all four being anywhere close to healthy.  Very few.

Kemba was really never healthy all year. 

Smart injured his calf at the end of January.

Tatum got COVID in January.

Brown had tendonitis in his left knee since at least February.



Comparison:

LeBron and AD played 601 minutes together this season.  More than double.

How many minutes did Tatum and Brown play together this season?  Why use 4 players for one team, but only 2 for the other?

Because the Lakers constructed a roster based on having two superstars, whereas the Celtics had a roster based on four lesser stars.  I mean, it shows in the salaries.  LeBron and Davis made a combined $73 million compared to the ~$80 million of the Celtics top 4.  That’s much closer than comparing Davis and Lebron’s $73 million to the J’s $33 million.

so Tatum is Boston's 5th best player, since salary matters in that way.  Tatum is a max player, he is just on his rookie contract.  To do what you are doing makes no sense.  Schroder and KCP both make similar money to Fournier and Smart, why would they not count?

2 players are always going to play more minutes then 4 players when you include the same 2 players.  It isn't an apt comparison.  You either need to include the Lakers top 4 or just go with Boston's top 2 if you want to have a fair comparison.

You’re funny in your adamant support of all things LeBron.

[86MaxwellSmart]

everyone on ESPN panicking over the Lakers this morning....geeze, I hope it's the end for LeBron and his vice grip on the league....Much better to have Phoenix playing and advancing right now.

[liam]

everyone on ESPN panicking over the Lakers this morning....geeze, I hope it's the end for LeBron and his vice grip on the league....Much better to have Phoenix playing and advancing right now.

I'm so glad to not have to watch the Lakers foul a guy six or seven times in a row and then finally on the eighth or ninth one they get called for a foul and are crying like babies. The Lakers got exactly as far as the Celtics this year but everyone is making excuses for them but saying we just stink even though more than half of our starters were out.

[gouki88]

How many minutes did Tatum and Brown play together this season?  Why use 4 players for one team, but only 2 for the other?

Man how many different threads have I read your posts in where you're arguing how great LeBron and AD are and how Tatum and Brown aren't that level of player?

Come on.

Exhausting levels of 'the grass is always greener.'

Despite how godly LeBron and AD are they still bowed out at the same stage as us

[liam]

Sorry if I missed someone else saying this but it was so great watching Crowder punk LeBron after all these years! He works so hard and has taken so much crap over the years. Go, Jae Crowder!

[liam]

This going to be such a long off-season. 

[SCeltic34]

Been so busy at work I forgot to even check the results of Suns vs Lakers.   Championship expectations for LA but eliminated in the first round.   As disappointing and frustrating as our season has been, I take solace in the fact that the Lakers season was 100x worse.

[Kiorrik]

Anyone ever seen this Luka kid play?

He looks pretty solid.

[radiohead]

https://sports.yahoo.com/magic-johnson-rips-dennis-schroeder-i-dont-think-hes-a-laker-010054168.html

I wonder what Magic’s beef is with Schroeder.

[liam]

Anyone ever seen this Luka kid play?

He looks pretty solid.

I was in total disbelief when he fell in the draft. He was clearly the top pick.